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Progressive school teachers suspend young kid for having a toy gun IN HIS OWN BEDROOM!

RaleBulgarian said:
The school didn’t have a policy either way. Is there a state/federal statute you can cite that prohibits the teacher from recording students?

And as you have yet to support your current claim, I won’t bother with your “emotional suffering” comment.
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Colorado is a one party state. Who authorized the recording? The school implies that nobody did and it just randomly happens as a software feature. That seems to be a violation of the Colorado wiretapping statute as does the teacher sharing that recording with others.
 
This is not okay. I understand not allowing kids to have any toys around during lessons, but that should be warnings, not directly to a week suspension and certainly not an officer sent to the house without even talking with the parents.

Zero tolerance rules are stupid enough in schools as it is. Trying to apply them to a kids own home is absolutely ridiculous.

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
It pains me to have to agree with you but when you're right, you're right, and too many Americans have bought into the notion that fascism is left wing, which it is not and never has been. Their History teacher, whether they know it or not, is Jonah Goldberg, who first floated the theory in his book "Liberal Fascism".

It's since been copied mostly by Dinesh D'Souza and Dennis Prager as well as a slew of other Trump water carriers and Tea Party trolls.
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The best proof of the right wing nature of facism/nazism is the estabilishment of Dachau, for LEFT WING political oponents originally.

The thing is, be it communist totalitarianism, or facsist right wing totalitarianism, the result for the people in the end is much the same. The lie of Trumpublicans™ is that Joe or Kamala aren't moderates politically. Even Bernie's "Democratic Socialism" is just another name for social democracies, such have been largely sucessful in many places. Nothing is perfect, but democratic socialism is far different than economic socialism. Free enterprise and regulated capitalism is a part of a social democracy, it's not in economic socialism.

The "laissez-faire" fantasy inevitably leads back to Fuedalism, the wealthy and powerful become kings, if we let them....
 
Napoleon said:
Colorado is a one party state. Who authorized the recording? The school implies that nobody did and it just randomly happens as a software feature. That seems to be a violation of the Colorado wiretapping statute as does the teacher sharing that recording with others.
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6. Is it permissible to record classes so that students can access them later?

Yes, assuming the video recording does not disclose PII from student education records during a virtual lesson, or appropriate written consent is obtained if PII from the education record, FERPA would not prohibit the teacher from making a recording of the lesson available to students enrolled in the class.

Educators should note that records of virtual instruction may constitute education records for purposes of FERPA if they directly relate to a student and are maintained by an educational agency or institution or by a party acting on their behalf. FERPA’s nondisclosure provisions may still apply to such video recordings even if they do not qualify as an “education record” if the video recording contains PII from student education records.

COVID-19 Legal FAQ Update – Student Education Records & Distance Learning **4.15.20**
 
BlueTex said:
For reporting this?

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What should a teacher do if a student is pointing what appears to a firearm at the screen. What if they make a bomb threat? Should they do anything about it?
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I have to wonder if police have ever recovered a bright green plastic gun with one of those bright orange rings at the end of the barrel indicating it's a toy, but found that it was a cleverly painted criminal's weapon.

This just seems stupid, whatever their policies are about bringing toy guns to school.

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Napoleon said:
Colorado is a one party state. Who authorized the recording? The school implies that nobody did and it just randomly happens as a software feature. That seems to be a violation of the Colorado wiretapping statute as does the teacher sharing that recording with others.
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Post the law, highlighting the portion you think the teacher violated.

Other than school administration, who else did the teacher share the video with? Was it posted on Facebook? Instagram?
 
ModerationNow! said:
As ridiculous as the ^title sounds, it's actually MUCH worse than that, there just wasn't enough room in the title box to fit all the ridiculousness!

A young kid living in Colorado Springs, was sitting on his own sofa, at home during a VIRTUAL school lesson. At some point, he was seen with a plastic airsoft TOY GUN. The teacher had an irrational knee-jerk reaction to this "terrible sight", and reported it to her equally irrational principal. The principal suspended the kid for 5 freaking days, AND called the police on him!

The teacher ADMITTED that "she suspected it was a TOY, but she was concerned for her class's safety"! Because toy guns can shoot VIRTUAL rubber airsoft pellets through the internet! Oy vey...

The also-irrational/progressive police officer shows up to the kid's home, harasses the family, scares the kid, and tells him that "this is likely to result in serious criminal charges for you"!

The parents are putting their son in another school. But if the teacher's unions have their way, that won't be an option! Remind me who the "fascists" are?

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And how did the Rochester NY school district handle the issue with their assistant principal?

NY principal yells 'F--k the police!' at Rochester protests
 
ModerationNow! said:
As ridiculous as the ^title sounds, it's actually MUCH worse than that, there just wasn't enough room in the title box to fit all the ridiculousness!

A young kid living in Colorado Springs, was sitting on his own sofa, at home during a VIRTUAL school lesson. At some point, he was seen with a plastic airsoft TOY GUN. The teacher had an irrational knee-jerk reaction to this "terrible sight", and reported it to her equally irrational principal. The principal suspended the kid for 5 freaking days, AND called the police on him!

The teacher ADMITTED that "she suspected it was a TOY, but she was concerned for her class's safety"! Because toy guns can shoot VIRTUAL rubber airsoft pellets through the internet! Oy vey...

The also-irrational/progressive police officer shows up to the kid's home, harasses the family, scares the kid, and tells him that "this is likely to result in serious criminal charges for you"!

The parents are putting their son in another school. But if the teacher's unions have their way, that won't be an option! Remind me who the "fascists" are?

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teacher should be fired.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
It pains me to have to agree with you but when you're right, you're right, and too many Americans have bought into the notion that fascism is left wing, which it is not and never has been. Their History teacher, whether they know it or not, is Jonah Goldberg, who first floated the theory in his book "Liberal Fascism".

It's since been copied mostly by Dinesh D'Souza and Dennis Prager as well as a slew of other Trump water carriers and Tea Party trolls.
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Fascism holds 0 right or left wing direction.
Fascism is at it core: authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy

this can be held by both left and right parties. It is an extremist view.
 
BlueTex said:
Read the police report above... It was a school resource officer and there was nothing overstepping about the way he handled the situation...
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except he had 0 business being there.
 
Mr Person said:
I have to wonder if police have ever recovered a bright green plastic gun with one of those bright orange rings at the end of the barrel indicating it's a toy, but found that it was a cleverly painted criminal's weapon.

This just seems stupid, whatever their policies are about bringing toy guns to school.

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“Designer” colors and designs are very popular now. Take a look at these real firearms and tell me if you think the average cop (or civilian) would be able to tell the difference at more than a few feet, within the few seconds they have to decide to shoot or not;
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I’m a 2nd Amendment supporting firearms owner and CCW holder, and I just don’t understand why anyone would want a deadly weapon with Hello Kitty painted all over it.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
“Designer” colors and designs are very popular now. Take a look at these real firearms and tell me if you think the average cop (or civilian) would be able to tell the difference at more than a few feet, within the few seconds they have to decide to shoot or not;
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I’m a 2nd Amendment supporting firearms owner and CCW holder, and I just don’t understand why anyone would want a deadly weapon with Hello Kitty painted all over it.
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Napoleon said:
Not in a private residence they aren’t. And there is no law anywhere that allows someone to activate the camera on a laptop and record the people and interior of a private residence and the school admitted they weren’t supposed to be recording and didn’t have parental consent to do it.
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That is a 4th amendment violation.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
I don’t why you bothered posting the above. If you had read it, yourself, you’d know that no part of it applies to this incident.
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Actually it does. The school claimed it does not have a policy of making recordings and blamed the software. So either the school is telling the truth, no one consented to the recording making it illegal, and the teacher then shared it illegally or the school is lying and secretly spying and recording the private residences of students without parental consent. Which is it?
 
trixare4kids said:
Right you are...
"Ayn Rand said it better than many “Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism are only superficial variations of the same monstrous theme—collectivism.” (Rand, 1914)"

Source for the above quote:
Is fascism an extreme form of capitalism? - Quora.
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Yes, fascists, communists, socialists, all stripes of Authoritarians try to differentiate between their ideas of GOOD Authoritarianism, and BAD Authoritarianism.

But despite all the la-la land "fairies and cotton candy dreams" of socialist utopias...it's all just "take from thee to redistribute to me...or else!"
 
Napoleon said:
Actually it does. The school claimed it does not have a policy of making recordings and blamed the software. So either the school is telling the truth, no one consented to the recording making it illegal, and the teacher then shared it illegally or the school is lying and secretly spying and recording the private residences of students without parental consent. Which is it?
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You’re really doing some major contorting to make it seem like you have a valid point. CO is a one person consent state. Doesn’t matter if the school knew of the software program that recorded the student. The affirmative action the teacher took in turning the recording over to school officials (only) is protected.
 
BlueTex said:
6. Is it permissible to record classes so that students can access them later?

Yes, assuming the video recording does not disclose PII from student education records during a virtual lesson, or appropriate written consent is obtained if PII from the education record, FERPA would not prohibit the teacher from making a recording of the lesson available to students enrolled in the class.

Educators should note that records of virtual instruction may constitute education records for purposes of FERPA if they directly relate to a student and are maintained by an educational agency or institution or by a party acting on their behalf. FERPA’s nondisclosure provisions may still apply to such video recordings even if they do not qualify as an “education record” if the video recording contains PII from student education records.

COVID-19 Legal FAQ Update – Student Education Records & Distance Learning **4.15.20**
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once again you didn't read you own post. It said they can make a video of THEIR LESSON Or if they have appropriate written consent from parents. So pleas show us the written consent?
It says nothing of recording students or turning on student camera and recording them.

The student was probably unaware that the teacher turned on his camera.
 
BlueTex said:
LMAO.... Sure, sure... Good lord...
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YOu need to read the 4th amendment again. It restricts what the state can do.
IE without permission they cannot turn on your camera.

a private person as a right to be secure in their own home.
the school violated that right.
 
ludin said:
once again you didn't read you own post. It said they can make a video of THEIR LESSON Or if they have appropriate written consent from parents. So pleas show us the written consent?
It says nothing of recording students or turning on student camera and recording them.

The student was probably unaware that the teacher turned on his camera.
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LMAO.... Was PII disclosed? That's all written consent is needed for....
 
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