Pro War = Time to give Soldiers due (1 Viewer)

[Navy Seal Patriot]

http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent1/?file=support_troops

that link is extensive in listing many ways you can give to our soldiers. I'm not just talking about just giving a $7 care package or placing some "support our troop" magnet on your vehicle, I'm talking to those who truly believe that we are preventing a future terrorist attack on this soil. I'm talking of giving what you don't need. What you don't need is: tv, cable, Internet (use the library), magazine subscriptions, junk food, pop, chips, drinking money, constant partying, expensive clothes that are faddish--you get my meaning, the trivial and wasteful purchases that could go to a soldier in need and yes we do have soldiers who have families on food stamps and welfare. One could easily donate 10% of his paycheck if he cuts down on the frivolous--if you make $600 per week that's $60 x 52 = $3120 a year that could and should be donated to a troopie--that's if you truly support their sacrifice and you make your sacrifice with the most likely death risk you take is just getting into a car accident to a job that you can be easily replaced.

Also are some blog connections to soldiers, maybe you don't make much and can only donate 10-20$ a week--no problem, locate a active, reservist or guardsmen and mow his/her lawn or whatever home improvement project they need or fix the car, or change the oil--the list is endless. All in all get off your lazy arse, stop thinking your sacrifice is just posting on the WWW, and do something that is for REAL!!! You think the soldiers really think you support them if you cannot make the easy Sacrifice back stateside? Get the morale higher--start really giving and stop being the lamo you were. Thank you.

 

[bub]

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I believed they were very well paid to go and fight in Iraq!
Don't they earn a lot of money?
I've heard on the radio that a truck driver could earn $10,000 a month in Iraq!
It's not true?

 

[Navy Seal Patriot]

I believed they were very well paid to go and fight in Iraq!
Don't they earn a lot of money?
I've heard on the radio that a truck driver could earn $10,000 a month in Iraq!
It's not true?

Just show your factual source to your statements. Not what you heard at a bar or what some civilian contractor makes driving a truck.

 

[Captain America]

My brother works over there. He is a civilian. He is well insulated in a very safe zone. He makes out alright.

But the soldiers.....ain't NO amount o' money worth doing that. It's gotta be more than the money with them. At least, I would like to think so.

 

[bub]

Euh...when I went to the US last year.

We went to a mall, with my host family, and they left me alone so that I could buy souvenirs. And when I came to the car, in the parking, 2 soldiers ran to me and asked me if I liked the army (it's like in Farenheit 9/11 :mrgreen: ) or if I wanted to make a lot of money easily. They gave me papers to join the army or the marines (I kept it! what a great souvenir from the US!!!) but when I told them I was 17 and I was not US, they stopped to smile and left me alone :mrgreen:

Sunday I come back home, I'll find those papers and show it to you.

I think I remember a soldier could earn $40,000 cash just when he enlists, but I'm not sure. I'll check that.

 

[Quik]

http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent1/?file=support_troops

that link is extensive in listing many ways you can give to our soldiers. I'm not just talking about just giving a $7 care package or placing some "support our troop" magnet on your vehicle, I'm talking to those who truly believe that we are preventing a future terrorist attack on this soil. I'm talking of giving what you don't need. What you don't need is: tv, cable, Internet (use the library), magazine subscriptions, junk food, pop, chips, drinking money, constant partying, expensive clothes that are faddish--you get my meaning, the trivial and wasteful purchases that could go to a soldier in need and yes we do have soldiers who have families on food stamps and welfare. One could easily donate 10% of his paycheck if he cuts down on the frivolous--if you make $600 per week that's $60 x 52 = $3120 a year that could and should be donated to a troopie--that's if you truly support their sacrifice and you make your sacrifice with the most likely death risk you take is just getting into a car accident to a job that you can be easily replaced.

Also are some blog connections to soldiers, maybe you don't make much and can only donate 10-20$ a week--no problem, locate a active, reservist or guardsmen and mow his/her lawn or whatever home improvement project they need or fix the car, or change the oil--the list is endless. All in all get off your lazy arse, stop thinking your sacrifice is just posting on the WWW, and do something that is for REAL!!! You think the soldiers really think you support them if you cannot make the easy Sacrifice back stateside? Get the morale higher--start really giving and stop being the lamo you were. Thank you.

I've noticed these "pro war" types are all talk. Their "support" starts and finishes with their mouth.

 

[ProudAmerican]

I've noticed these "pro war" types are all talk. Their "support" starts and finishes with their mouth.

most troops will tell you the very support you condemn is very VERY important to their morale.

so while you try to diminish the support many give, remember, its more support than the likes of you are capable of.

 

[bub]

To Navy Seal:

I was right:

> Recruitment bonus = $ 40,000 if you're just a new enlistee, $ 150,000 if you're a current troop re-enlisting (page 5)

> If you're experienced, in some cases you may earn over $ 1000 a day (end of page 7)

+ $ 44,000 a year for some veterans (page 9)

So, you will wait a long time for my support :mrgreen:
After all, they are volunteers. It's their job, they have chosen to go there. When my dad (tank crew) spent 6 months to Kosovo to preserve the peace, he had chosen to get there, and since it was his job, he was not complaining or asking for additional support.

And I personally think it's disgusting to earn $ 1000 a day when you work in a third-world country with extremely poor people who don't earn $ 1000 a year.

Instead of spending your money this way, wouldn't it be more efficient to invest in developping those countries?
>Since democracy is linked with economic development, Iraq would probably be a democracy much faster than now.
> with half of the money spent in a few years in Iraq, you could have a social security for the next 75 years.


Total cost of the war according to this study (by a economic nobel prize) :
$ 3,289,000,000.00 :shock:




http://ksghome.harvard.edu/~lbilmes/paper/iraqnew.pdf

 

[Navy Seal Patriot]

To Navy Seal:

I was right:

> Recruitment bonus = $ 40,000 if you're just a new enlistee, $ 150,000 if you're a current troop re-enlisting (page 5)

> If you're experienced, in some cases you may earn over $ 1000 a day (end of page 7)

+ $ 44,000 a year for some veterans (page 9)

Wrong. You might get those top figures (as stated) for a certain MOS, with a certain enlistment peroid, with a certain Armed Forces Branch; but it's not across the board for any and everyone--and you will have to get that MOS qualification and serve the full term. Secondly on pg 3 of your source you will see that Reservists and Guardsmen are having economic difficulties-=-they consist of 40% of the soldier force in Iraq.

So, you will wait a long time for my support :mrgreen:

You have all the rights in the USA to spend money on beer, pop, chips, video games, movies and whatever trivial expense you deem-- but that doesn't make you special or helpful for those who need help. :mrgreen:

 

[bub]

Euh...on page 3 I see that some earn $ 1000 a day and that some earn less ("loss in wages" ?) but don't say that they have economic difficulties.

I don't say you're wrong or lying, but till you don't give me a proof I will have doubts about it.

If it's true, it's also a shame because the US Army can afford extremely expensive nukes, aicraft carriers, hundreds of F-14, F-15, F-16, F-18 and the even more expensive YF-23, the F-117, the B-2 and the B-1...a single B-2 costs $2 billions...and they can't afford full-metal jackets or good wages for their soldiers?

You have all the rights in the USA to spend money on beer, pop, chips, video games, movies and whatever trivial expense you deem-- but that doesn't make you special or helpful for those who need help. :mrgreen:

Indeed, you're right! Your taxes goes to the government, who spend it in the war in Iraq: that doesn't make you helpful for those who REALLY need help: the iraqi's whose houses have been bombed and the whole third world who is starving and that you could help developping its economy in order to bring democracy :2razz: