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Prisoners Could Serve 1,000 Year Sentence In 8 Hours

Well, the only thing that really alleviates mental suffering is time. If they truely believe that a certain amount of time has passed maybe that suffering will reflect that. Psychology is quite an interesting subject and its down right amazing how the brain reacts to certain stimuli.
It sounds good on paper, but what of those who never make their way back? For too many people, certain wounds don't heal. Time per se is no indicator of recuperation or even familiarity. Nor is the value of any learning curve defined by time. There's just too much that occurs in the mind to be adequately addressed by so inconclusive a measurement.

If anything even remotely approaching this level of advance were to become a reality, it couldn't happen in the ass backward society in which we currently reside. It's just silly, sci-fi, gee whizz BS.
 
It sounds good on paper, but what of those who never make their way back? For too many people, certain wounds don't heal. Time per se is no indicator of recuperation or even familiarity. Nor is the value of any learning curve defined by time. There's just too much that occurs in the mind to be adequately addressed by so inconclusive a measurement.

If anything even remotely approaching this level of advance were to become a reality, it couldn't happen in the ass backward society in which we currently reside. It's just silly ,sci-fi, gee whizz BS.

Well, they haven't come to anything that actually works yet. AFACT this is just a theory at this point in time and they haven't come up with a workable product yet. While it is currently and technically just "sci-fi" I wouldn't discount it as being silly. They do have a point in that there are some pschotropic drugs that make it seem like time has slowed down. All the technology today would have been deemed "sci-fi" 100 years ago. :shrug: If it has a possiblity of working then I see no reason to just dismiss it and not even research it. Particularly if it can have a positive effect.
 
Where can you get this stuff anyway? Sounds like it would be great to use when thinking and panning things. Instead of a 1000 years, I could come out in 8 hrs with the greatest AI program ever written.
 
Well, they haven't come to anything that actually works yet. AFACT this is just a theory at this point in time and they haven't come up with a workable product yet. While it is currently and technically just "sci-fi" I wouldn't discount it as being silly. They do have a point in that there are some pschotropic drugs that make it seem like time has slowed down. All the technology today would have been deemed "sci-fi" 100 years ago. :shrug: If it has a possiblity of working then I see no reason to just dismiss it and not even research it. Particularly if it can have a positive effect.
That's the usual response. Sci-Fi predicted this that or the other. It didn't really. No one was speculating about unified field theory in the Middle Ages. Sci-Fi only piggybacks the cutting edge with no obligation for either novelty or credibility. That it gets lucky every once in a while speaks more to probability than informed guesswork. You and I could make a million guesses as to how a person's day will turn out, and the chances are we'll be right a lot of the time. Where's all the teleportation, time travel, anti-matter drives and fusion powered egg whisks?

Psychotropic drugs? Isn't that a far cry from artificially implanting complete memories, emotional maturation and comprehensive knowledge directly into the mind? I don't say these things will never be possible, but as I said, they won't happen while we're still at the sewer-stage of our species' development. We live in a Capitalist ****hole of a world where governments spend trillions on military R&D for weapons of mass destruction, while millions of people die of thirst and starvation. A world where people 'hate fags', 'hate kikes' and 'hate niggers'.

Trust me, dude. We're not getting anywhere near that level of advancement any time soon. Science doesn't develop in a vacuum.
 
That's the usual response. Sci-Fi predicted this that or the other. It didn't really. No one was speculating about unified field theory in the Middle Ages. Sci-Fi only piggybacks the cutting edge with no obligation for either novelty or credibility. That it gets lucky every once in a while speaks more to probability than informed guesswork. You and I could make a million guesses as to how a person's day will turn out, and the chances are we'll be right a lot of the time. Where's all the teleportation, time travel, anti-matter drives and fusion powered egg whisks?

Psychotropic drugs? Isn't that a far cry from artificially implanting complete memories, emotional maturation and comprehensive knowledge directly into the mind? I don't say these things will never be possible, but as I said, they won't happen while we're still at the sewer-stage of our species' development. We live in a Capitalist ****hole of a world where governments spend trillions on military R&D for weapons of mass destruction, while millions of people die of thirst and starvation. A world where people 'hate fags', 'hate kikes' and 'hate niggers'.

Trust me, dude. We're not getting anywhere near that level of advancement any time soon. Science doesn't develop in a vacuum.

So you don't think that picking up a small, plastic device and be able to talk to anyone almost anywhere in the world isn't Sci-Fi? How about computers? How about airplanes? Cars? MRI machines? Laparoscopy?

Not one of these things existed when I was born.
 
So you don't think that picking up a small, plastic device and be able to talk to anyone almost anywhere in the world isn't Sci-Fi? How about computers? How about airplanes? Cars? MRI machines? Laparoscopy?

Not one of these things existed when I was born.
Way to miss the point, brah.

Attaboy.
 
Way to miss the point, brah.

Attaboy.

Why don't you just explain what point I missed in lieu of being snarky?

I'm not your brah. Nor was I rude. I thought I made a valid point. If you don't agree, why don't you enlighten me instead?
 
Why don't you just explain what point I missed in lieu of being snarky?

I'm not your brah. Nor was I rude. I thought I made a valid point. If you don't agree, why don't you enlighten me instead?
First of all, I couldn't make my points any more remedial if I tried. Secondly, you were indeed 'snarky' yourself.

When in Rome. I'm not your ****ing porch baby. If you're unable to grasp that which the learning disabled might negotiate, then opt for more meagre fare.
 
That's the usual response. Sci-Fi predicted this that or the other. It didn't really. No one was speculating about unified field theory in the Middle Ages. Sci-Fi only piggybacks the cutting edge with no obligation for either novelty or credibility. That it gets lucky every once in a while speaks more to probability than informed guesswork. You and I could make a million guesses as to how a person's day will turn out, and the chances are we'll be right a lot of the time. Where's all the teleportation, time travel, anti-matter drives and fusion powered egg whisks?

Psychotropic drugs? Isn't that a far cry from artificially implanting complete memories, emotional maturation and comprehensive knowledge directly into the mind? I don't say these things will never be possible, but as I said, they won't happen while we're still at the sewer-stage of our species' development. We live in a Capitalist ****hole of a world where governments spend trillions on military R&D for weapons of mass destruction, while millions of people die of thirst and starvation. A world where people 'hate fags', 'hate kikes' and 'hate niggers'.

Trust me, dude. We're not getting anywhere near that level of advancement any time soon. Science doesn't develop in a vacuum.

And yet our Capitalist ****hole is still lightyears beyond and millions of times better than any other system ever has been able to reach.

Most of what you rant there is nothing but socialist mumbo-jumbo. Most of those millions dying of thirst and starvation are doing so because they didn't adopt open Capitalism but socialism and closed market capitalism. They made their choices, tough ****.
 
And yet our Capitalist ****hole is still lightyears beyond and millions of times better than any other system ever has been able to reach.

Most of what you rant there is nothing but socialist mumbo-jumbo. Most of those millions dying of thirst and starvation are doing so because they didn't adopt open Capitalism but socialism and closed market capitalism. They made their choices, tough ****.
Personally, I think the best economic system is capitalistic at it's core, but with the excesses of same restrained by well-crafted regulations.

Not this hodge-podge of regulations created by what is effectively a group of "lawmakers" who are owned individually by various corporations or groups or corporations.

Put another way, capitalism is all well and good in an economy, but it has no place in government.
 
Personally, I think the best economic system is capitalistic at it's core, but with the excesses of same restrained by well-crafted regulations.

Not this hodge-podge of regulations created by what is effectively a group of "lawmakers" who are owned individually by various corporations or groups or corporations.

Put another way, capitalism is all well and good in an economy, but it has no place in government.

What we primarily have today is a socialist minded government that has transformed capitalism into corporatism (AKA Corporate Socialism), the only real difference between socialist and corporatist is who they think the slave masters should be.
 
That's the usual response. Sci-Fi predicted this that or the other. It didn't really. No one was speculating about unified field theory in the Middle Ages. Sci-Fi only piggybacks the cutting edge with no obligation for either novelty or credibility. That it gets lucky every once in a while speaks more to probability than informed guesswork. You and I could make a million guesses as to how a person's day will turn out, and the chances are we'll be right a lot of the time. Where's all the teleportation, time travel, anti-matter drives and fusion powered egg whisks?

Psychotropic drugs? Isn't that a far cry from artificially implanting complete memories, emotional maturation and comprehensive knowledge directly into the mind? I don't say these things will never be possible, but as I said, they won't happen while we're still at the sewer-stage of our species' development. We live in a Capitalist ****hole of a world where governments spend trillions on military R&D for weapons of mass destruction, while millions of people die of thirst and starvation. A world where people 'hate fags', 'hate kikes' and 'hate niggers'.

Trust me, dude. We're not getting anywhere near that level of advancement any time soon. Science doesn't develop in a vacuum.

Of course science doesn't happen in a vacuum. People first have to imagine something before coming up with how to do it or if it is even possible to do it. And social maturation does not always coincide with leaps in technology. If it did then we would never have even needed to make the first A-Bombs. The two are connected but not dependent on each other. And they weren't talking about implanting memories, so much as tricking their brains into thinking that a thousand years had passed. Big difference. One is attainable right now. The other isn't attainable right now but is still a possibility for the future when we have more understanding.
 
What we primarily have today is a socialist minded government that has transformed capitalism into corporatism (AKA Corporate Socialism), the only real difference between socialist and corporatism is who they think the slave masters should be.
That is an interesting way to look at it.

I'd be tempted to suggest that it's more the corporate side telling the government side to go for more "socialism" because it means they have less long-term commitments as a result (health care, retirement, etc.).


Edit: Or perhaps it's more of a mutual benefit thing.
 
And yet our Capitalist ****hole is still lightyears beyond and millions of times better than any other system ever has been able to reach.

Most of what you rant there is nothing but socialist mumbo-jumbo. Most of those millions dying of thirst and starvation are doing so because they didn't adopt open Capitalism but socialism and closed market capitalism. They made their choices, tough ****.
Mumbo-Jumbo. Socialism. Choices. etc

Great. Another leviathan.
 
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Creepy, definitely. More humane? I don't know. After all, perception is reality.

Part of the reason why we lock up criminals is because they're a threat to society (the violent ones anyway), and it was legally deemed that the criminal's potential positive influence in society is heavily outweighed by their negative influence and therefore must be removed. So they'd leave society for less than a day? I wonder how this would affect not only the individual, but society at large; are punishments supposed to be mostly internal or mostly external?

Thoughts?

Prisoners 'could serve 1,000 year sentence in eight hours' - Telegraph

Can that technology be used to extend an orgasm?
 
How would you punish a rapist, molester, burglar or some other violent criminal without sticking them in prison?

What should a justice system be based on? Should it be based on trying to deliver the harshest punishment we can imagine? Don't you think that throwing a fellow human being in a place to spend the rest of their days where they can't leave nor are they kept all that safe a little bit inhumane? Don't you think it's a bit inhumane to rob another human being of their complete liberty? What does that teach them? What does it do for the victim? Does it really do anything except treat people like animals?

Anyone that really believes this idea here is humane is an idiot. What is interesting however is that people are actually considering giving the government the power to punish their citizens for thousands of years with the use of drugs.
 
This sounds pretty cruel and unusual. And, as always, punishment is a stupid idea. All but the select few truly damaged criminals can be rehabilitated, and all but the most deranged crime can be prevented.
 
What should a justice system be based on?

Mostly punishment punishment and some rehabilitation if the individual is not a lifer.

Should it be based on trying to deliver the harshest punishment we can imagine?

Again how would you punish a rapist, molester, burglar or some other violent criminal without sticking them in prison?
Don't you think that throwing a fellow human being in a place to spend the rest of their days where they can't leave nor are they kept all that safe a little bit inhumane?

Sticking someone in prison as a punishment is not a issue of being humane or inhumane.Its an issue of sticking someone behind bars who deserves it. Violent criminals and some non-violent criminals deserve imprisonment as a punishment.

Don't you think it's a bit inhumane to rob another human being of their complete liberty?

It is inhumane to rob,rape,murder or assault someone.

What does that teach them?

If they are lifer then hopefully it teaches them that if you do not like prison then do not do **** to get stuck in prison.

What does it do for the victim?

Give them a sense of justice.
Does it really do anything except treat people like animals?

Human beings are animals.

Anyone that really believes this idea here is humane is an idiot. What is interesting however is that people are actually considering giving the government the power to punish their citizens for thousands of years with the use of drugs.

Imaginary punishment is not real punishment.
 
Imaginary punishment is not real punishment.
If the prisoner thinks it's real, it damn well is.

Just because you can't see them living through a thousand years of imprisonment, doesn't mean they don't think they did. And really, it all comes down to the mental aspect - physical punishments are just crude methods of affecting the mind.
 
Idea is not absurd.

Of course justice system is about what's best for society and not what is best for any victims.

Justice =/= vengeance.

Besides, I think subjecting a prisoner to a thousand years of imprisonment within his own mind is damn near the worst punishment you could possibly inflict, depending of course on where the prisoner thinks they are and what they think they are doing.

Again when someone is raped, burglarized, murdered, scammed, or the victim of some other crime it is not society those things have happened to.If victims are irrelevant to administering justice to the criminals then there is no point in punishing criminals.
 
Except for the ones that do and realize that it will be the same experience as being in jail for 1,000 years. Let's say one exists, would you like them to determine the punishment for their crime against them?

You do not think that after the 8 hours are up that the offender will offender will just pass the experience off as some sort of horrible nightmare.
 
You do not think that after the 8 hours are up that the offender will offender will just pass the experience off as some sort of horrible nightmare.
1,000 years* for them. Ask the scientists who developed this drug, not me.
 
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