Don't claim it's not a mental illness.
Homosexuality is a mental problem, isn't it?
Since no one's determined the cause of homosexuality, it's still under three possible causes:
Genetic disorder, hence not normal.
Developmental distraction caused by environmental factors, hence not normal.
Choice, hence not normal.
No, I don't see "different state of normal" as being one of the causes of your problem, I see the claim as you people refusing to accept the truth about who you are.
So you're insisting it's a genetic disorder. Glad you've made your choice. So many people try to insist isn't "none of the above".
Being born with a defect doesn't grant someone the right to special treatment, does it?
You do understand the biological purpose of sex, don't you?
It doesn't exist to give the animal a good time. It gives the animal a good time to motivate him and her to mix bodily fluids that eventually result in offspring.
Sexual urges that dominate an animal's pysche that prevent this result aren't normal and aren't healthy, since they deny the biological purpose of sex.
Merely a symptom of your disease, is all.
Have you sought professional psychological help?
No, it's merely symptomatic of your illness.
If your friends care about you, they'll let you know when they think you're ill.
I don't care about you and I'll let you know when I think you're ill, too.
For some reason, the people sharing your illness won't tell you you're ill.
Yes, it's a learned behavior, not a genetic defect or developmental maladjustment.
It's a specific act intended to elicit specific responses and succeeding.
Irrelevant to the issue of the mental disorders presented, as already discussed.
I recall saying that if it's a matter of choice or developmental maladjustment, it's a mental disorder. I never said a word about giving a crap about it. I said, since it's a genetic defect, or a developmental disorder, or a personal choice, what the hell has been accomplished to be proud about?
No, being homosexual is not a different aspect of normality. It's a defect.
So I ask you, do you believe homosexuality is caused by:
A) Genetic defect?
B) Developmental deviation caused by environmental factors?
C) Personal choice of freewill?
I've already explained the implications of each.
Which option do you choose? Are you able to invent a fourth option? That would be entertaining.
No, I'm the kind of man that makes statements based in logic and common knowledge.
Is there a fourth alternative to the cause of homosexuality?
It's either an inherited defect, and developmental defect, or a personal choice, which indicates a psychological defect of uncertain origin.
Are you going to put a fourth option on the table?
This is an impressively ignorant body of work, even for you, Scarecrow...and usually the inaccuracies and ignorance of your posts is quite substantial. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about, but that should not surprise anyone. Your posts always reek of that.
But, tell you what, I'm in the mood to educate those that have little knowledge on the topic we are discussing...and you have shown yourself to fit that description perfectly.
So, let's start with your first fallacious statement, the origin of the ignorance of your position:
Homosexuality is a mental problem, isn't it?
No, it's not, and it has been proven with research and valid, peer reviewed studies to not be a mental disorder. But please, post some valid, peer reviewed studies that prove your position...with links.
What's that I hear. Oh yes, that is the sound of you failing...as usual.
Now let's move on to your next erroneous statement, a false choice, bolstered by an inaccurate hypotheses:
So I ask you, do you believe homosexuality is caused by:
A) Genetic defect?
B) Developmental deviation caused by environmental factors?
C) Personal choice of freewill?
Your error, and the error of most who behave like bigots is in your question. It is not, "what is homosexuality caused by", but it is, "what is human sexuality caused by". So please, tell us which of the three choices you gave cause human sexuality, either hetero or homo.
Also, your choices are a logical fallacy...the "complex question" logical fallacy to be precise. This is not surprising, as your posts are usually devoid of logic. Further, you assume that homosexuality is a deviation. Now, since all research shows that this is inaccurate, not only is your question a complex question logical fallacy, but it is also a false premise logical fallacy, Impressive display of a lack of logic, Scarecrow, even for you.
But wait, since all sexuality falls under the same research umbrella, according to your logic, please tell us whether heterosexuality is a genetic defect, a developmental deviation, or a choice. See, how silly you look now.
But please, show us some valid, peer reviewed studies that support your position, that homosexuality falls under any of these classification...but heterosexuality does not.
What's that I hear. Oh yes, that is the sound of you failing...as usual.
Now, to continue my education of the non-knowledgeable on this issue like you, Scarecrow, here are some facts on homosexuality and gay marriage. Since you claim to know something (though you have proven the opposite), I dare you to dispute any of the points below. Please do so with evidence from valid studies. You can be sure I have mine flied and ready.
1) Homosexuality is not a disorder.
2) Homosexuality was declassified by the APA because an overwhelming amount of valid, peer reviewed research was shown to prove this. Most research prior to much of this was determined to be faulty methodologically, because of bias, or both.
3) The only politicizing that went on when the APA declassified homosexuality was the politicizing to get the research admitted.
4) We do not know conclusively what causes sexual orientation. Researchers theorize that it comes from genetic, biological, and developmental factors. What combination of these factors is unknown.
5) Sexual behavior is the acting on sexual orientation. Sexual orientation cannot be changed; sexual behavior can be changed.
6) Conversion therapy is unethical.
7) Trauma can NOT alter one's sexual orientation, but it can assist in altering one's sexual behavior.
8) Those who act in contradiction to their sexual orientation may be suffering from some sort of psychological disorder; this disorder is often related to impulse control.
9) Prisoners who exhibit homosexual behavior have not changed their sexual orientation; they have changed their sexual behavior.
10) Gay couples rear children that perform as well emotionally, academically, and socially as straight couples that rear children.
11) Children who are raised by gay couples are no more likely to be gay than children raised by straight couples.
