Montecresto
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I see this is just a hyper partisan rant for you?
You don't think republicans will sell America off?
Senate Republicans Vote To Sell Off Our National Forests
I agree that SA 838 was complete bull****, it doesnt at all mean that they would want to sell a State. It is completely illogical to even accuse them of possibly doing that. SA 838 in fact is good evidence that Republicans dont want to sell Alaska to Russia not when it has all those resources.
I agree that SA 838 was complete bull****, it doesnt at all mean that they would want to sell a State.
Obama, on the other hand, probably would.
Its unconstitutional!!!
probably so but, it isnt like SA 838 every had a chance in hell of becoming law. Nor is there any chance that Russia would get Alaska back without nukes flying all around.
Ukraine never transferred Crimea to Russia. There is no mechanism in the Ukraine constitution or law that would facilitate giving Crimea to another country.And so was the transfer back. You guys love self determination...................until you don't.
So was the phony Crimea referendum which violated both the Ukrainian and the Crimean constitutions.Its unconstitutional!!!
Simpleχity;1064719156 said:Ukraine never transferred Crimea to Russia. There is no mechanism in the Ukraine constitution or law that would facilitate giving Crimea to another country.
This is why Russia had to use military force.
Simpleχity;1064719165 said:So was the phony Crimea referendum which violated both the Ukrainian and the Crimean constitutions.
Lol. Your concern for constitutionality is ... superficial and decidedly situational.
Russia says the referendum was very legit!!!
:lol: Of course they do.
When Russia withdraws from Ukraine, Georgia, and Transnistria, when it democratizes and abandons its fascistic strongman model of government, when it decides to liberalize and fully join the Democratic Community it will not only have nothing to fear it will be one of the leaders of a new world order.
A very tiny percentage of Ukrainians rioting in the streets of Kiev, burning government buildings, driving the elected president from office under threat of death, wasn't a constitutional process to begin it all with. Little surprise to me that Russia moved to secure their interests and assets in Crimea.
Russia says the referendum was very legit!!!
Nope, unfortunately it won't.
Your scenario not only asks Russia to abandon its' regional interests but also tells Russia to stop being Russia which in turn would possibly lead to its break down into smaller states - as what you're asking for Russia to do, is to ignore its' past and history and to completely restructure the Russian mentality.
This was already attempted in the 90's, it failed miserably.
Fallen.
That's an excuse. And also, explain Russian aggression in Eastern Ukraine.
Then Russia will have to be forever contained and one destroyed by fragmentation. If you are telling me there is some racial inability among Russians to accept democracy and liberalism, or to eschew reactionary fascistic nationalism, (which I do not accept) then the only other alternative is to treat them as permanent enemies and continue to bleed and hem them in.
Of course they did. But the rest of the world said otherwise.
Fortunately, Russia (the aggressor state) and China do not speak for most nations.
No, I'm simply telling you an obvious fact. Russia had no history of "democracy" and "liberalism", hence, it is asinine to expect a country which was living and its territories and mentality were formed under "strongmen" for so long to magically turn into some liberal fantasy world.
It didn't work in the 90's when Western/Russian "experts" pushed Russia's political pendulum into a "liberal" direction way too hard, to a point it simply swung back on them, and it's not going to work now either.
It's very simple, yet for some reason still so hard to comprehend.
Fallen.
Simpleχity;1064722316 said:Fortunately, Russia (the aggressor state) and China do not speak for most nations.
UN General Assembly Adopts Resolution Calling upon States Not to Recognize Changes in Status of Crimea Region
Plenty of countries that have had "no history" of democracy, liberalism, or the like have become converts to democracy. There is no basis for asserting that there is some sort of permanent, immovable, cultural impediment to democratization in Russia. Moreover if what you are saying is true then it makes sense to consider Russia a perpetual enemy and do out utmost to contain them and roll them back. We have already made great progress over the past 20 years in doing so, perhaps the next step is to make Western Ukraine a military bulwark.
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