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President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really scary'

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President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really scary'

Dangerous, foolish, irrational, scary, terrifying, irresponsible, a clown, a disaster. These are just some of the words used to describe the prospect of a Donald Trump presidency by politicians, diplomats and analysts around the world.

Unsurprisingly, Trump has provided no specifics regarding the foreign policy of a Trump administration. That is because Trump has no foreign policy specifics, just populist rhetoric.

The public-relations company of Trump's top campaign strategist - Paul Manafort - has been listed in the top five lobbying on behalf of human-rights abusers.

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

Simpleχity;1065829238 said:
President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really scary'



Unsurprisingly, Trump has provided no specifics regarding the foreign policy of a Trump administration. That is because Trump has no foreign policy specifics, just populist rhetoric.

The public-relations company of Trump's top campaign strategist - Paul Manafort - has been listed in the top five lobbying on behalf of human-rights abusers.

ChL_PCXUgAAMIwo.jpg

They were mostly euphoric, when Obama won.
 

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

Despite this country's weakened condition, we're still the baddest MOFOs on the block. Get use to it "world leaders"
 

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

Simpleχity;1065829238 said:
President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really scary'



Unsurprisingly, Trump has provided no specifics regarding the foreign policy of a Trump administration. That is because Trump has no foreign policy specifics, just populist rhetoric.

The public-relations company of Trump's top campaign strategist - Paul Manafort - has been listed in the top five lobbying on behalf of human-rights abusers.

ChL_PCXUgAAMIwo.jpg

It's the lobbyist that are in fear ! :shock:
 

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It's the lobbyist that are in fear ! :shock:

In fear of what? drowning in a pool filled with gold coins?
 

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

In fear of what? drowning in a pool filled with gold coins?

Not everyone can swim in gold like Scrooge McDuck.
 

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

They just buy into the left-wing media hype. People around the world are the same as anyone else. They get their opinions about foreign nations from whatever news and other media sources they prefer.

Trump has been lambasted pretty viciously in the press for the most part. One can only be compared to Hitler, Mussolini, or a clown so many times before people buy into it.
 

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In fear of what? drowning in a pool filled with gold coins?

If you try real hard you may figure it out .
 

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

Simpleχity;1065829238 said:
President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really scary'



Unsurprisingly, Trump has provided no specifics regarding the foreign policy of a Trump administration. That is because Trump has no foreign policy specifics, just populist rhetoric.

The public-relations company of Trump's top campaign strategist - Paul Manafort - has been listed in the top five lobbying on behalf of human-rights abusers.

ChL_PCXUgAAMIwo.jpg

I can't stand Trump and won't vote for him. That said, I really don't give a rat's ass what the "world leaders" think. They don't solicit or welcome our opinions on who should be their leaders. Nor should we solicit or welcome theirs.
 

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

No doubt, Trump would keep them guessing instead of announcing every move so that the enemy can prepare ahead of time. He would also send messengers ahead of a deal to be made, no questions asked. Take it or else. Scary thought, isn't it?
Compare that to Clinton. Now there is someone whom everyone should be scared of. Not a clue and a temper to boost. If you think Trump is a loose cannon, watch this one.
I guess the world will observe closely to see what is coming next. Leaders may be fearful, but we will be pitied for sure.
 

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They just buy into the left-wing media hype. People around the world are the same as anyone else. They get their opinions about foreign nations from whatever news and other media sources they prefer.

Trump has been lambasted pretty viciously in the press for the most part. One can only be compared to Hitler, Mussolini, or a clown so many times before people buy into it.

Being unpredictable, at least at the onset, is in fact a strong opening negotiation position.

I agree, the media's left wing bias is clearly on display, excoriating Trump, where as Hillary's utter failure in both foreign policy and and foreign policy actions are not covered in the least.

Pretty plain to see for anyone who has their eyes, ears and mind open.
 

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Re: President Trump fills world leaders with fear: 'It's gone from funny to really sc

They just buy into the left-wing media hype. People around the world are the same as anyone else. They get their opinions about foreign nations from whatever news and other media sources they prefer.

Trump has been lambasted pretty viciously in the press for the most part. One can only be compared to Hitler, Mussolini, or a clown so many times before people buy into it.

One can only act like Hitler, Mussolini, or a clown so many times before people call you on it.
 

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Being unpredictable, at least at the onset, is in fact a strong opening negotiation position.

In a world where international agreements do not depend on being able to trust the other sovereign nation to follow through with their agreements, then you might be correct.

However, we live in a world where international agreements DEPEND upon that ability to trust the other party. Being "unpredictable" (or outright excoriating the other party in the public) makes the likelihood that a country will agree to your terms or abide by them significantly less likely.
 

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Compare that to Clinton. Now there is someone whom everyone should be scared of. Not a clue and a temper to boost. If you think Trump is a loose cannon, watch this one.

Do you have anything resembling evidence to support this accusation of Hillary?
 

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One can only act like Hitler, Mussolini, or a clown so many times before people call you on it.

Well, so far I haven't seen people calling Hilary out on it, so your theory doesn't seem to be playing out.
 

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I think they fear the idea of a leader that has the people of this country as a priority. I think a lot of countries will get a wake up call when Trump does not let them use us. Too many countries taking our money in one hand and dragging our flag down the street with the other.
 

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They just buy into the left-wing media hype. People around the world are the same as anyone else. They get their opinions about foreign nations from whatever news and other media sources they prefer.

Trump has been lambasted pretty viciously in the press for the most part. One can only be compared to Hitler, Mussolini, or a clown so many times before people buy into it.

You ain't seen nuthin' yet. ;)
 

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In a world where international agreements do not depend on being able to trust the other sovereign nation to follow through with their agreements, then you might be correct.

However, we live in a world where international agreements DEPEND upon that ability to trust the other party. Being "unpredictable" (or outright excoriating the other party in the public) makes the likelihood that a country will agree to your terms or abide by them significantly less likely.

Since when?
"Nations do not have 'friends', they have interests"
"Trust but verify" - isn't really trust now, is it?
Exactly as much as you can 'trust' Iran to comply with the restrictions in Obama's & Karry's deal? :lamo

If following through on an agreement is against a nation's interests, what chance do you think that they will follow through?
 

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Since when?
"Nations do not have 'friends', they have interests"
"Trust but verify" - isn't really trust now, is it?
Exactly as much as you can 'trust' Iran to comply with the restrictions in Obama's & Karry's deal? :lamo

If following through on an agreement is against a nation's interests, what chance do you think that they will follow through?

Iran has already complied with nearly every aspect of the nuclear disarmament agreement.

:lamo
 

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Since when?
"Nations do not have 'friends', they have interests"
"Trust but verify" - isn't really trust now, is it?
Exactly as much as you can 'trust' Iran to comply with the restrictions in Obama's & Karry's deal? :lamo

If following through on an agreement is against a nation's interests, what chance do you think that they will follow through?

What were our other choices, vis-a vis Iran?

Choice A: let them continue working on the bomb without us saying anything---non starter.

Choice B: Ramp sanctions up even more then they already had been--no point. Regime change has yet to be accomplished by sanctions, as Cuba has proven, and will harness energy and anger towards Americans even more so then was already there.

Choice C: Let Israel bomb the Iranians--- What's Hebrew for "very bad idea"?

Choice D: bomb and invade Iran ourselves--- Total non starter. It'd be a bloodbath. Iran has had more than ten years to prepare and train for an American invasion.
 

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They were mostly euphoric, when Obama won.

Yeah, they were thrilled at having a weak-willed president who would give use American assets to enrich themselves with bought favors. They're terrified of Trump who isn't going to be pushed around and is going to force lazy ass Europeans to use their own resources to defend their own continent.
 

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Yeah, they were thrilled at having a weak-willed president who would give use American assets to enrich themselves with bought favors. They're terrified of Trump who isn't going to be pushed around and is going to force lazy ass Europeans to use their own resources to defend their own continent.

The problem with Trump is the way he seems to want to go about it.
 

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Iran has already complied with nearly every aspect of the nuclear disarmament agreement.

:lamo

So far. It doesn't lend itself well to trusting Iran, when . . .

By launching nuclear-capable missiles Iran has defied a United Nations Security Council resolution that endorsed last year's historic nuclear deal, the United States and its European allies said in a joint letter seen by Reuters on Tuesday.

Iran's recent ballistic tests involved missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons and were "inconsistent with" and "in defiance of" council resolution 2231, adopted last July, said the joint U.S., British, French, German letter to Spain's U.N. Ambassador Roman Oyarzun Marchesi and U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon.

The letter said the missiles used in the recent launches were "inherently capable of delivering nuclear weapons." It also asked that the Security Council discuss "appropriate responses" to Tehran's failure to comply with its obligations and urged Ban to report back on Iranian missile work inconsistent with 2231.
Exclusive: Iran missile tests were 'in defiance of' U.N. resolution - U.S., allies

I think it foolish to trust a nation that is defiant in legally applied UN Security council resolutions, don't you?

This is only one example where it's unwise to trust a foreign nation. Shall we delve into North Korea's behavior? Undoubtedly there are is a long history of nations who've not followed through on international agreements, which is your point that I've just deflated.
 

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What were our other choices, vis-a vis Iran?

Choice A: let them continue working on the bomb without us saying anything---non starter.

Choice B: Ramp sanctions up even more then they already had been--no point. Regime change has yet to be accomplished by sanctions, as Cuba has proven, and will harness energy and anger towards Americans even more so then was already there.

Choice C: Let Israel bomb the Iranians--- What's Hebrew for "very bad idea"?

Choice D: bomb and invade Iran ourselves--- Total non starter. It'd be a bloodbath. Iran has had more than ten years to prepare and train for an American invasion.

B: No, not to cause regime change, but to disable Iran's building of a nuke, and continued their reduced influence in the region. The sanctions were international, not just US, so that anger of which you speak would have been directed to the UN.

Elevating a known international terrorist supporter and funder / supplier from their previously degraded position to regional power is a stupid decision to make.
 

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B: No, not to cause regime change, but to disable Iran's building of a nuke, and continued their reduced influence in the region. The sanctions were international, not just US, so that anger of which you speak would have been directed to the UN.

Elevating a known international terrorist supporter and funder / supplier from their previously degraded position to regional power is a stupid decision to make.

Continuing sanctions hadn't been able to disable the Iranian efforts before---what makes you think it would do so this time?

And judging by the large number of Iranian backed guerilla groups, terrorists and regimes in the Middle East even before the nuclear deal, it's not like you cou do conceivably freeze them out
 
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