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President Obama's Real Record: The Facts

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According to Politifact.com, Obama, made some 500 promises as a Candidate for President. That's a lot of promises to keep and whether or not Politifact.com interpreted every single promise correctly, the aggregate Promised Kept -vs- Promises Broken by the President according to Politifact.com, pretty much tells the story in general about this President's tenure in office during his first term.

Hyper-Partisan Politics in the Political Blogosphere being what it is on the net these days and the Main Stream Media attempt to keep "hot stories" smoldering for as long as they possibly can, even when the fire has long since burned out, will often times result in skewed or slanted readings of history. However, genuine facts are not up for revision and real history cannot be changed. They are the immutable objects that intellectually honest people can refer to in order to obtain proper framework for understanding and to be consistently on the right side of history when all the political fighting dust has long settled back down to earth. So, let's take a look inside Politifact.com evaluation of this current President of the United States.

Politifact.com claims that President Obama, has he's kept 162 promises and broke 56 promises, with 218 either compromised, stalled or still pending. That's 218 combined Presidential Actions (according to Politifact.com) from Obama, as President, that went to the heart of his campaign pledges. That's an 11.2% dynamic failure rate with a 32.4% dynamic success rate, and 282 or 56.4% either compromised, stalled or still pending.

Those are simply the facts of this Administration success and failure. No matter how much the President's rivals attempt to add to his failures, and no matter how much the President's supporters attempt to add to his successes, the history and the facts about what this President has promised and what he's actually accomplished with respect to his campaign promises, cannot be overridden and/or written off as if not to exist. This applies to the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Three outcomes that all Presidents have seen since the down of our Democratic Republic, and the birth of George Washington, as the United States very first Commander in Chief.

This particular President has had critics that have said that his entire Presidency was a failure, even before the end of his first year in office. Those statements are etched in history and can never be omitted, re-written and/or taken away. This particular President, has also had opposition in the United States Congress, who have publicly stated that their only task as legislators, was to make sure that Obama, was a a one term President.

Others in Congress, standing in opposition to the President, have publicly stated that their task is to make sure that the President's agenda for the country fails, despite whether or not the President's policies were good or bad for the country. Yet, others who stand in current opposition to the President's re-election efforts claim that the President has failed in all things, has achieved absolutely no thing of value and has corrupted the very seat of the Office of the Presidency by his merely existence in the White House.

However, if one were to observe actual history, in lieu of actual hyper-partisan rhetoric about the President, then one would have to conclude that a massive amount of accomplishment has indeed been overlooked by many of the President's political adversaries. President Obama's political adversaries, who predicate their arguments on hyper-partisan rhetoric design to win elections, almost never speak about the President's real record from 2008 through 2012.

Despite two (2) ongoing Wars and the nation reaching the point of a Great Economic Recession prior to coming to office, after his inauguration, President Obama, went to work and was able to lead the country through many key levels of accomplishment - some of then were so significant, that historians are already proclaiming them to be Landmark Achievements in the history of the United States of America:


- Created A National Healthcare Framework after 100+ years of Failure
- The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
- Prevented Economic Depression and put a floor under very weak economy
- Cleaned-up TARP I Re-Payments Problems
- Instantiated TARP II and Prevented a Core Financial Institution Meltdown
- Prevented the U.S. Auto Industry from Collapsing and Forced its Restructuring
- Expanded Children's Health Insurance
- Signed the Mathew Sheppard Hate Crimes Act, Senate S.909
- Repealed DADT
- Signed Financial Regulatory Reform
- Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
- Signed The New Post-911 G.I. Bill
- Signed Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure (CARD) Act
- Signed 2010 Hire Act: Tax Breaks for Small Businesses (16 Tax Cuts for Small Businesses)
- Signed 2010 START Treaty & Protocol with Russia
- Ended the War in Iraq
- Ending the War in Afghanistan
- Dealt with Osama Bin Laden in his own home
- Worked with Congress and signed the Transportation & Student Loan Interest Rate Bill, HR 4348


These are some of the major highlights and accomplishments of President Obama, during his first term in office. Whether his self-proclaimed political adversaries wish to accept this reality, this history and these facts or not, is irrelevant when it comes to the facts that history must record. By any definition, this President's first term in office has been nothing short of a miracle and nothing less than a resounding success, given the massive negativity that he had to deal with in the Economy and in a Congress that was publicly committed to seeing him fail. Despite all of that negativity, this President went on to accomplish some fairly amazing things as the nations Executive Officer.

Still, critics of the President will counter by using negative or slow economic data and never once account for the fact that under any President, the economy would have needed time to reach its maximum point of negative inflection at the bottom of a U-Shaped recovery, given the damage that had already been done to the economy, long before President Obama took office.

Other critics lay false blame for the lack of spirited job creation at the door step of Healthcare legislation that has not even been fully implemented and that was tied up in the court system long before it could have an impact on the small businesses they claim would be adversely affected by its existence. These critics of the President claim that National Healthcare, which is partly designed to lower overall costs to the system once fully implemented, thereby helping to reduce the national debt and deficits, was the "cause" for the sluggish recovery. And, they never once tell you that this recovery would be this sluggish, no matter who sat in the White House, simply because of the serious infrastructural damage that was done to our liquidity based economy.

While President Obama's specific Executive accomplishments have been outstanding for a President with or without the harsh realities of a broken economy in need of repair, the President's specific Economic Record related to the Recovery, has been perceptibly slow since 2008. However, much of this slowness in the job recovery is due to the fallout from the instantiation of the 2008 economic implosion that took place, before President Obama came to office:

Research at The United States Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that:

- The Private Sector has added jobs for 31 consecutive months
- More than 1,000,000 new jobs were created (under Obama's Presidency - note added)
- The Unemployment rate went down to 7.8% in September 2012
- Latest Household Survey shows that 873,000 people found employment
- Metropolitan Area Reporting shows a decline in the number of higher unemployment areas surveyed (2011 through Sept 2012)
- Metropolitan Area Reporting shows a decline in the rate of unemployment per area surveyed (2011 through Sept 2012)

Clearly, there is much more that need to be accomplished on the jobs front and like it or not, President Obama, now owns the United States Economy. However, that in no way diminishes the fact that he took on a patient that was on life-support, and gave that patient a second chance at life through prompt and immediate Executive level decisions that no serious economist is now claiming to have been unnecessary.

The facts should be clear. To conclude as many of the President's detractors have concluded, that an economy as massive as our own ($13.3 trillion), would be able to turn on a dime and pivot into a V-Shaped recovery, after having seen Real GDP drop to below -3.0% before the President took office and then below -8.0% shortly after the President assumed office, is simply unrealistic no matter which fiction novel you base the storyline upon. A Real GDP economy that large, throwing of negative growth spike that large, is going to see real tight compression in continue GDP growth for quite some time, before enough jobs are added back to the economy that lost them.

Millions of jobs had been lost by the time President Obama, got to office and hundreds of thousands per month were being lost before he could put any plans for a recovery into place, or do anything to halt the financial industry melt-down, or to restrain the banking crisis, or the foreclosure crisis, or the real threat that the auto industry would be severely damaged and possibly lost forever. During that same time period, an economy as large as ours, had to have room to bottom out before finding a floor upon which is could establish a recovery. (source: BEA : Gross Domestic Product (GDP) Graph )

The Real Problem with the United States Jobs Recovery: American Companies Hoarding Over $5 Trillion in Cash

The real problem with the slowness of the jobs recovery is that many American companies simply refuse to Invest in America and Hire American Workers. The $5 Trillion Stash.

Once again, the United States Mainstream Media has failed to accurately report the problem, as vociferously as it does hyper-partisan political stories that dominate each so-called news cycle. These facts have been known about ever since 2009, and back then the "cash held" in the aggregate figure was estimated at over $5 Trillion. This marks the final quarter of 2012, so one can only guess that the this $5 trillion "cash held" figure has grown substantially. Why? A very significant recovery in the Stock Market took place between 2009 and 2012. The U.S. stock market is now trading once again above the 13,400+ level. So, the post-Great Recession Recovery has worked out tremendously well for Corporations and their respective earnings per share ratios.

So, what happened to the Re-Investment in America?

The $5 trillion estimated to be held by American Companies, is a figure reported by Reuters (above) but is actually a composite report containing data from the Internal Revenue Service, U.S. Census Bureau and the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics in the year 2009. These reports are from Non-Financial Companies. So, these were not the companies allegedly involved in the TARP I and TARP II rescue. However, it is extremely doubtful that all of them can claim that they did not benefit at least indirectly from TARP I and TARP II, as well as the President's Stimulus Plan.

In either case, these are American Companies for the most part and should be interested in the full recovery of the United States Recovery. If these companies had spend a fraction of their total hoarded cash holdings, the United States would experience near full recovery virtually over night, as the unemployment rates would plummet across the board, consumer confidence would soar and more money would be circulated throughout the entire economy from the the Supply Chain through Retail Point of Sale.

This story has been under-reported, hardly discussed by many and overlooked by most as being the primary causation for holding the economy back into a sluggish recovery profile, when unleashing the power of Investment Capital internally, would do more to solve our economic problems than nearly anything that any President could ever do at this point.

That's a huge component to the back-story that has not been adequately told about President Obama's Record and one that needs to be fully understood in its proper context. Recovery could be over and done with by now, had American Companies simply participated in that recovery, without coming anywhere near depleting all of their cash reserves.
 

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The facts matter. It was time a for a post like this.
 

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This thread goes a very long way to show just how hypocritical people are in this country. Of all the threads posted on this forum regarding the 2012 Election, precious few are as comprehensive of the reality surrounding this President's first term in office. Yet, not one single reply from those who claim that Obama, has failed in his presidency. So, much for honesty and integrity in American Politics.

When actual facts matter, all the lies get displaced and replaced with the proverbial pin hitting the floor.

 

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I stopped reading after seeing the BS of the title...

we all know the "real"ity...

4 more weeks.. till we throw this vile scumbag marxist out of office...

and I laugh.. wasnt DADT Clintons?...

Lilly Ledbetter..yea thats helps women a lot.. NOT... but cute name...Lilly ..
 

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The facts matter. It was time a for a post like this.
fact is the loser spent 6 trillion dolllars... and wasted billions in stimulus that was a lie...

Truth is he is an Alisky radical ... a moron loser, a jr senator who was created by Soros to destroy the USA as we are witnessing...who cant form a sentence without a teleprompter.. a complete ZERO...

Benghazigate is awating Soetoro


"The real problem with the slowness of the jobs recovery is that many American companies simply refuse to Invest in America and Hire American Workers. The $5 Trillion Stash." .. TRUTH is.. that Obamcare and the tax laws are why compnaies that dont feel like going out of business are not hiring period until we know what Obamacare is and will cost..
TRUTH is that high energy costa are killing the bottom line and Obama is promising that they go higher...

Truth is Keystone didnt happen..

Truth is we are be run off a financial cliff for social re-enginerring

Truth is Obama is a the same Obama that was a divider and a Rezko cronie

Truth is Obama campaigned on tax payer money for his uncle Odinga..

I like truth... you want more?
 
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Using the Tampa Bay Times to establish "facts". Truly amazing. Pitiful, but amazing.

But, you did get a positive response saying the OP needed to be written. Oh, wait, as a matter of fact, that was your post wasn't it?
 

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Other critics lay false blame for the lack of spirited job creation at the door step of Healthcare legislation that has not even been fully implemented and that was tied up in the court system long before it could have an impact on the small businesses they claim would be adversely affected by its existence. These critics of the President claim that National Healthcare, which is partly designed to lower overall costs to the system once fully implemented, thereby helping to reduce the national debt and deficits, was the "cause" for the sluggish recovery. And, they never once tell you that this recovery would be this sluggish, no matter who sat in the White House, simply because of the serious infrastructural damage that was done to our liquidity based economy.
With an economy in free fall, this President spent two years doing little else other than getting his healthcare plan through Congress. I'd say there were many many more fish to fry. You? With a majority in Congress, he could have done so MUCH!! Instead, he focussed on the American Healthcare Act. Anyone who doesn't resent that fact, is smokin' something.

The Real Problem with the United States Jobs Recovery: American Companies Hoarding Over $5 Trillion in Cash

The real problem with the slowness of the jobs recovery is that many American companies simply refuse to Invest in America and Hire American Workers. The $5 Trillion Stash.

Once again, the United States Mainstream Media has failed to accurately report the problem, as vociferously as it does hyper-partisan political stories that dominate each so-called news cycle. These facts have been known about ever since 2009, and back then the "cash held" in the aggregate figure was estimated at over $5 Trillion. This marks the final quarter of 2012, so one can only guess that the this $5 trillion "cash held" figure has grown substantially. Why? A very significant recovery in the Stock Market took place between 2009 and 2012. The U.S. stock market is now trading once again above the 13,400+ level. So, the post-Great Recession Recovery has worked out tremendously well for Corporations and their respective earnings per share ratios.

So, what happened to the Re-Investment in America?

The $5 trillion estimated to be held by American Companies, is a figure reported by Reuters (above) but is actually a composite report containing data from the Internal Revenue Service, U.S. Census Bureau and the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics in the year 2009. These reports are from Non-Financial Companies. So, these were not the companies allegedly involved in the TARP I and TARP II rescue. However, it is extremely doubtful that all of them can claim that they did not benefit at least indirectly from TARP I and TARP II, as well as the President's Stimulus Plan.

In either case, these are American Companies for the most part and should be interested in the full recovery of the United States Recovery. If these companies had spend a fraction of their total hoarded cash holdings, the United States would experience near full recovery virtually over night, as the unemployment rates would plummet across the board, consumer confidence would soar and more money would be circulated throughout the entire economy from the the Supply Chain through Retail Point of Sale.

This story has been under-reported, hardly discussed by many and overlooked by most as being the primary causation for holding the economy back into a sluggish recovery profile, when unleashing the power of Investment Capital internally, would do more to solve our economic problems than nearly anything that any President could ever do at this point.

That's a huge component to the back-story that has not been adequately told about President Obama's Record and one that needs to be fully understood in its proper context. Recovery could be over and done with by now, had American Companies simply participated in that recovery, without coming anywhere near depleting all of their cash reserves.
What flim-flam. Just what would you have American companies spend their "hoards of cash" on? Building new plants they don't need? Hiring people they don't need? Buying equipment they don't need? What?? Tell us.
 

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I stopped reading after seeing the BS of the title...
Which means that you are just about as deep on the issues that face America, as every other Bush/Romney Supporter. You don't care about facts. You don't care about actual history. You are a bought and paid-for slam dunk ballot. Period.


we all know the "real"ity...
So, rather than call me on the carpet for posting a singular false fact, you prefer to pretend to be talking about reality - as opposed to actually exposing my lies here in this forum? If, I've posted something that you disagree with and you have EVIDENCE to support your claim, then PLEASE call me out on the carpet for doing it and I WILL print a retraction after reviewing your EVIDENCE. But, don't sit here and pretend that you have countered anything with a mental midget like response that boarders on the level of Micky Mouse and Donald Duck.

Not even Big Bird, would be impressed with your rebuttal thus far.


4 more weeks.. till we throw this vile scumbag marxist out of office...
Right, exactly! You get steam-rolled by the facts, hammered by the actual history of this man's Presidency, with your eyes WIDE shut - and THEN you start chanting 4 More weeks! 4 More weeks! 4 More Weeks!

One post - dispelled ALL the lies and myth about this guy's Presidency, and your only reply is "4 More Weeks!"


and I laugh.. wasnt DADT Clintons?...Lilly Ledbetter..yea thats helps women a lot.. NOT... but cute name...Lilly ..
More fake rebuttal, dressed-up as actual participation.

You failed to read this OP, because the hard facts kick the Republican Congress right squarely in the teeth. And, here's why:


 

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With an economy in free fall, this President spent two years doing little else other than getting his healthcare plan through Congress.
Sure, if you consider getting an $800 billion stimulus bill through Congress nothing. Or saving GM and Chrysler. Or winding down the war in Iraq. Or implementing a surge in Afghanistan. Or negotiating trade deals. :roll:
 

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Which means that you are just about as deep on the issues that face America, as every other Bush/Romney Supporter. You don't care about facts. You don't care about actual history. You are a bought and paid-for slam dunk ballot. Period.




So, rather than call me on the carpet for posting a singular false fact, you prefer to pretend to be talking about reality - as opposed to actually exposing my lies here in this forum? If, I've posted something that you disagree with and you have EVIDENCE to support your claim, then PLEASE call me out on the carpet for doing it and I WILL print a retraction after reviewing your EVIDENCE. But, don't sit here and pretend that you have countered anything with a mental midget like response that boarders on the level of Micky Mouse and Donald Duck.

Not even Big Bird, would be impressed with your rebuttal thus far.




Right, exactly! You get steam-rolled by the facts, hammered by the actual history of this man's Presidency, with your eyes WIDE shut - and THEN you start chanting 4 More weeks! 4 More weeks! 4 More Weeks!

One post - dispelled ALL the lies and myth about this guy's Presidency, and your only reply is "4 More Weeks!"




More fake rebuttal, dressed-up as actual participation.

You failed to read this OP, because the hard facts kick the Republican Congress right squarely in the teeth. And, here's why:




your whole post is BS... not one objective sourcing on the state of the economy supports anything postive on Obama... your desperation is comical as you flail away trying to get us to not believe our eyes..

please continue your posts are more unsettling then Pelosi's blinking rate
 

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Sure, if you consider getting an $800 billion stimulus bill through Congress nothing. Or saving GM and Chrysler. Or winding down the war in Iraq. Or implementing a surge in Afghanistan. Or negotiating trade deals. :roll:
Iraq:

The timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops in Iraq was decided during the Bush administration with the signing of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) by U.S. and Iraq officials on Nov. 16, 2008. The Iraqi parliament signed SOFA on Nov. 27, 2008.

The agreement, which had been in negotiations since 2007, set a timetable calling for most U.S. troops to leave Iraqi towns and cities by June 30, 2009, with about 50,000 troops left in place until the final withdrawal of all U.S. military forces by Dec. 31, 2011.
Giving Obama "credit" for the auto bailouts is questionable, since most Americans opposed it.

Hardly much of an accomplishment. The surge, by the military's own report card, was a failure:

The chart above measures the various attacks the Taliban and associated insurgents launched against NATO forces, month by month. In August 2009, the peak of the fighting season and the height of the internal Obama administration debate over a troop surge, insurgents attacked U.S. and allied troops — using small-arms fire, homemade bombs, mortars and more — approximately 2,700 times. In August 2012, they attacked just shy of 3,000 times.

In August 2009, insurgents used just under 600 homemade bombs on U.S.-aligned forces. They used just over 600 homemade bombs on U.S.-aligned forces in August 2012.

The same trend holds for every other month in 2009 compared to every month in 2012 for which there is data: The insurgency launched more attacks this year. In some cases, substantially more: insurgents attacked about 2,000 times in July 2009 and a shade over 3,000 times in July 2012. ISAF registered about 475 attacks from homemade bombs in July 2009; and about 625 in July 2012.
The chart referred to is here, put together by the International Security Assistance Force under USA's General John Allen's command.

Military's Own Report Card Gives Afghan Surge an F | Danger Room | Wired.com
 

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With an economy in free fall, this President spent two years doing little else other than getting his healthcare plan through Congress. I'd say there were many many more fish to fry. You? With a majority in Congress, he could have done so MUCH!! Instead, he focussed on the American Healthcare Act. Anyone who doesn't resent that fact, is smokin' something.
The reality is Maggie...that it SHOULDN'T have taken that long. Obama came into office, rather naive, thinking that he could be a "Uniter" and found out that Washington politics rarely allow it. The healthcare law should have been a no brainer in terms of bi-partisan support. He took, in large part, what had been Republican ideas, backed by the Heritage foundation. These were ideas that Republicans supported...and he used Romneycare as the model. However, because of the GOP obstructionism, it turned what should have been a 3 month project into a two year battle. Why? Because Republicans were so determined to make sure that as (Mitch McConnell said) that Obama would fail, they rejected their own ideas.

Republicans were willing to destroy this country in order to destroy Obama....and now they are asking to be put back in charge?
 

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Many of the "accomplishment" on that list I see as failures.

Examples:

- The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
- Prevented Economic Depression and put a floor under very weak economy (this is blatantly false)
- Instantiated TARP II and Prevented a Core Financial Institution Meltdown
- Prevented the U.S. Auto Industry from Collapsing and Forced its Restructuring
- Signed the Mathew Sheppard Hate Crimes Act, Senate S.909
- Signed Financial Regulatory Reform
- Ending the War in Afghanistan (he could've ended it years ago)
 

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This is the Obama "reality"....Obama is a a ****ing scumbag.. our enemies best friend..

God Bless Lara Logan.. we should all pray for her and her wounds ...

snip....

There is this narrative coming out of Washington for the last two years,” Logan said. It is driven in part by “Taliban apologists,” who claim “they are just the poor moderate, gentler, kinder Taliban,” she added sarcastically. “It’s such nonsense!”

Logan stepped way out of the “objective,” journalistic role. The audience was riveted as she told of plowing through reams of documents, and interviewing John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan; Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and a Taliban commander trained by al-Qaida. The Taliban and al-Qaida are teaming up and recruiting new terrorists to do us deadly harm, she reports.

She made a passionate case that our government is downplaying the strength of our enemies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, as a rationale of getting us out of the longest war. We have been lulled into believing that the perils are in the past: “You’re not listening to what the people who are fighting you say about this fight. In your arrogance, you think you write the script.”

Our enemies are writing the story, she suggests, and there’s no happy ending for us.

As a journalist, I was queasy. Reporters should tell the story, not be the story. As an American, I was frightened.

Logan even called for retribution for the recent terrorist killings of Christopher Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, and three other officials. The event is a harbinger of our vulnerability, she said. Logan hopes that America will “exact revenge and let the world know that the United States will not be attacked on its own soil. That its ambassadors will not be murdered, and that the United States will not stand by and do nothing about it.”

In the “good old days,” reporters did not advocate, crusade or call for revenge.

In these “new” days in a post-9/11 world, perhaps we need more reporters who are willing to break the rules.

Reporter Lara Logan brings ominous news from Middle East - Chicago Sun-Times
 

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Many of the "accomplishment" on that list I see as failures.

Examples:

- The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
- Prevented Economic Depression and put a floor under very weak economy (this is blatantly false)
- Instantiated TARP II and Prevented a Core Financial Institution Meltdown
- Prevented the U.S. Auto Industry from Collapsing and Forced its Restructuring
- Signed the Mathew Sheppard Hate Crimes Act, Senate S.909
- Signed Financial Regulatory Reform
- Ending the War in Afghanistan (he could've ended it years ago)
I agree.... a blind goat could have done more and done it better...nothing but failure
 

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The reality is Maggie...that it SHOULDN'T have taken that long. Obama came into office, rather naive, thinking that he could be a "Uniter" and found out that Washington politics rarely allow it. The healthcare law should have been a no brainer in terms of bi-partisan support. He took, in large part, what had been Republican ideas, backed by the Heritage foundation. These were ideas that Republicans supported...and he used Romneycare as the model. However, because of the GOP obstructionism, it turned what should have been a 3 month project into a two year battle. Why? Because Republicans were so determined to make sure that as (Mitch McConnell said) that Obama would fail, they rejected their own ideas.

Republicans were willing to destroy this country in order to destroy Obama....and now they are asking to be put back in charge?
I appreciate your sentiments. Part of what you say is true. The Obama Administration took an 11-page report from The Heritage Foundation that gave some basic outlines to a healthcare plan and, before he even entered office, had a 2,000-page document put together that no one even read. There wasn't even an accurate layman's summary online about this bill. This was the worst example of across-the-aisles compromise in the history of the United States, in my opinion. Obama did nothing to foster compromise. He didn't want Republican input and wouldn't accept it. That's my view after having paid a great deal of attention on this bill became law -- and my view is probably as fair as it's going to get because I actually support the plan.

The argument that Romneycare served as a model simply tells me that states can handle this on their own, thank you very much. Romneycare is pretty much a success at the state level. That does not mean that it will be successful on a national level. I think many Republicans, if not most, saw it exactly that way.
 

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fact is the loser spent 6 trillion dolllars... and wasted billions in stimulus that was a lie...
Your delusional posts are just about as amusing as your puppet like Avatar. Where are you facts to support your claims? What on-the-ground facts are you in possession of, that tells you the stimulus was a lie? From what source did you learn this?


Truth is he is an Alisky radical ... a moron loser, a jr senator who was created by Soros to destroy the USA as we are witnessing...who cant form a sentence without a teleprompter.. a complete ZERO...
Ad Hominem attacks are what Republicans are good at. Deriving real solutions that solve real problems, has never been their forte. Come up with something a bit more original next time.


Benghazigate is awating Soetoro
More meaningless drivel without substantive anchors to anything that proves your claim. You're like a fire hydrant with a broken outlet valve. You spew without meaning, guidance, direction and/or any logical control of the facts. In fact, you don't even bother addressing the substance of the OP.


TRUTH is.. that Obamcare and the tax laws are why compnaies that dont feel like going out of business are not hiring period until we know what Obamacare is and will cost..
So, companies are failing to hire while sitting on trillions of cash because of Healthcare? Is that your delusional conclusion?

This is the problem with ignorant people going to the polls and voting. If you had bothered to educate yourself, then you would already know that one of the accomplishments of this administration has been its Small Business Tax Credit Initiative, which you have completely ignored in favor of Faux Newz Talking Points having nothing to do with the reality on the ground for Small and Medium size businesses. This President, has given ample opportunity for businesses around this country, to start hiring - yet they STILL site on well over $5 trillion in cash, not including their off-shore cash holdings

Furthermore, had you taken the time to actually educate yourself on what the real net/net effects of the Affordable Care Act means for Small Businesses, you would have already known that Small Businesses that do not have at least 50 employees are not affected at all by the Act. But, you refuse to educate yourself, so you have nothing else to offer but what you learn from Rush Limbaugh, and Faux Newx. 66% of Small Business Owners did not know that they were eligible for a Small-Business Health-Care Tax Credit available in 2010. That Health-Care Tax Credit, was made possible by Obamacare.

I can go on and on and on, educating you on the subject of Obamacare, what it means and how it works, but none of that would matter to you - because you have so brainwashed by the Right Wing, to believe that anything this President does is some kind of Socialist plot to taken down the country. That fact of the matter is that Small and Medium size business in this country, are not being hampered by the Affordable Care Act at all. Those are more lies that have been spewed since well before the Bill became law.

Why do you willfully walk the earth in such ignorance of the facts? Companies are sitting on their trillions in cash, for some other reason having absolutely nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act.

Try educating yourself: Home | HealthCare.gov


TRUTH is that high energy costa are killing the bottom line and Obama is promising that they go higher...
I get so tired of educating lazy people like you, who rely on television instead of official written documents for their fact based knowledge.

Look, your fuel costs have risen as a direct cause of instability in the Middle East and Oil Traders in the Market. Period. The instability in the Middle East was caused by George W. Bush, going to war with a nation that did not attack the United States of America. That put oil based fuel prices on a trajectory to the upside. Further upside momentum in oil based fuel costs are a direct result of Traders in New York, Chicago, London and Tokyo.

When I am working, I spend each day reading the economic reports from the U.S., U.K., Germany, Japan and China, as a matter of survival in my business. When I am working, I am in the global markets on a regular and routine basis and I know what moves them and why.

You really do need to get yourself educated about WHY energy prices are as high as they are right now. It is not rocket science at the fundamental level. You can understand it, but you WILL have to take some personal time to consider the matter worth understanding, or else you will be forever in the blind spot of false educators like Faux Newz and Rush Limbaugh.

By the way, I'm one of those who paid LESS in taxes than did Mitt Romney, in 2011, and I grossed MORE than he did in that same year. So, you can't classify me as some bleeding heart Liberal on a campaign to re-elect Obama at all costs and without regards for the facts. It is because I do care about the facts, that I decided to make this thread. This thread deals with the reality of the Obama Administration and its true accomplishments - not the accomplishments that his political adversaries have dreamed-up over the past four (4) years.


Truth is Keystone didnt happen..
You use Keystone, as if its the only pipeline in the world. This is more grasping for straws from the Right and denying President Obama, any credit for what he has done correctly. While mentioning Keystone, you failed to mention this:

Artic Drilling Approval
Atlantic Drilling Approval

Keystone, at the time, had issues with environmental protection. The President made it clear to you why he slowed down the Keystone Project, but once again - you close your eyes and cover your eyes to anything you don't want to destroy your false presumptions about this President:



Truth is we are be run off a financial cliff for social re-enginerring
This is more pathologically rooted insanity from the extreme flank of the Right Wing Party in the United States of America. It was failed rhetoric in 2008, and the President has demonstrated that it is still failed rhetoric in 2012.

The country was run off a financial cliff by George W. Bush, and his wars for Oil and PSA contracts. In stark contrast, President Obama, is opening up pathways to drilling off-shore the right way - by making sure that the environment won't be harmed in the process, along with the People who live in those areas.

Your rhetoric is not matched and/or paired with any facts.


Truth is Obama is a the same Obama that was a divider and a Rezko cronie
So, because you have not offered one single viable rebuttal to the original post in this thread, you are force to lean on more false rhetoric that failed to work in 2008. That says a whole lot more than you obviously understand.

I've proven in this thread that on balance, you really can't attack the man's record as President and that all the lies that have been spewed by Republicans in the Congress, about how this man has failed in policy and accomplishment - have been nothing more that hyper-partisan political dogma, skewed against a man they don't like, because MOST of them are simply jealous of his accomplishments and his fast rising star. So, they set out to demolish his entire Presidency by agreeing with each other to Lie and Deny about anything this President did that was positive.

This thread points out something very instructive - that despite the enormous odds against this President, he was still able to accomplish some amazing things that benefit this country in just four (4) years AND in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the great depression. If that is not leadership, then I don't know what on earth could possibly qualify.


Truth is Obama campaigned on tax payer money for his uncle Odinga..
Responding to you with facts, has proven to be a waste of time. You post as if you are drunk with envy and hate for this President, and you refuse to address the facts contained herein. That tells me that you realize that the allegations levied against this President has having failed in the aggregate, are just about as outrageous as Mitt Romney, having a demonstrated that he has a batter plan for America.


I like truth... you want more?
What that some kind of joke - like the rest of your entire post?

Line-by-line, I've demonstrated that you have offered no facts. When you get to a point in your delusion where you hit rock bottom and you are ready to come back to reality, THEN you can start to deal with the facts of the the Obama Presidency thus far.

Until then, you have said absolutely nothing.
 

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You're being a bit naive if you think the Commander in Chief has nothing to do with ongoing wars, even if they are being wound down.


Giving Obama "credit" for the auto bailouts is questionable, since most Americans opposed it.
Most Americans didn't understand the implications of not doing the bailouts, for which they can be forgiven. The economy would have taken a huge crap if GM and Chrysler had failed, and it would not being as well as it is todya. But whether you approved of them or not, they were not nothing.

Hardly much of an accomplishment. The surge, by the military's own report card, was a failure:
Again, I wasn't commenting on the wisdom of his policies, but rather on your false assertion that he wasn't doing much besides health care reform. While I agree that the Afghan surge was a failure, I think he was right to attempt it. There was a chance that the situation could be salvaged if we finally devoted the necessary resources to the right war. Unfortunately the situation was already too far gone. But it did allow us to stay in place long enough to bump off Public Enemy No. 1.

Bottom line: that Obama didn't do anything but health care reform his first two years is just another right wing talking point. While we're on the topic I could also mention the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, numerous foreign trips, etc. None of which is to minimize the enormous achievement that was ACA. He did expend a lot of political capital to get it done, and he got it done -- unlike the many presidents who have tried and failed over the last 100 years.
 

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I appreciate your sentiments. Part of what you say is true. The Obama Administration took an 11-page report from The Heritage Foundation that gave some basic outlines to a healthcare plan and, before he even entered office, had a 2,000-page document put together that no one even read. There wasn't even an accurate layman's summary online about this bill. This was the worst example of across-the-aisles compromise in the history of the United States, in my opinion. Obama did nothing to foster compromise. He didn't want Republican input and wouldn't accept it. That's my view after having paid a great deal of attention on this bill became law -- and my view is probably as fair as it's going to get because I actually support the plan.

The argument that Romneycare served as a model simply tells me that states can handle this on their own, thank you very much. Romneycare is pretty much a success at the state level. That does not mean that it will be successful on a national level. I think many Republicans, if not most, saw it exactly that way.
Maggie....go back and look at the first 100 days of Obama. Obama came into office beliving naively that he could sit down with both sides and work out things for America....unfortunately, he found out that the good of the country oftentimes take a backseat to politics. Obama ABSOLUTELY came into office hoping to compromise, but the Republicans dug their heels in and refused their OWN ideas. If Obama hadn't been willing to compromise, he would not have included all of the Republican ideas in the plan. The reality is, Republicans wanted Obama to fail more than they wanted America to succeed. That is the real bottom line.
 

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With an economy in free fall, this President spent two years doing little else other than getting his healthcare plan through Congress. I'd say there were many many more fish to fry. You? With a majority in Congress, he could have done so MUCH!! Instead, he focussed on the American Healthcare Act. Anyone who doesn't resent that fact, is smokin' something.
Apparently, you are about to be smoked.

Your argument is bogus. It is not bogus because I say so. It is bogus because you do not understand how our nation's fiscal policies decisions have been made over the course of the previous 50+ years. Your education begins here, however.

The facts are crystal clear. The NUMBER #1 cost factor to this country for decades, has been the rising cost of its national health care. The NUMBER #1 contributing factor to the increase in our nation's Debt and Deficit, has been the rising cost of this nation's health care. The very fact that you don't yet understand this, speaks volumes about your ability to reply on the merits, instead of replying off the cuff based on what you have watched on TELEVISION as opposed to what you have actually READ in an Economic Journal and/or an official Government document related to the current and project cost expenditures that this nation has faced in previous decades and WILL face in future decades, if we do not get our house in order relative to the massive burden that national health care costs have placed on the American Tax payer. That's the introduction to your re-education on the subject.

You need to educate yourself on the history, cost containment factors, relevant drivers and expenditures of our health care system, before you can even dream of having an argument to make that this President did the wrong thing by focusing on National Health Care as a method for ensuring long term economic stability for the United States of America. You have sat an listened to a man (Mitt Romney) during the debates who has no ability to think or act strategically and therefore, he had no idea what he was saying when he called himself schooling the President on why he would spent time working on health legislation, while at the same time dealing with TARP I, TARP II and Stimulus. President Obama, was smart to deal with Health Care up front, because he knew that UNLESS this nation gets its health care costs under control, there will be NO ECONOMIC FUTURE worth debating over in the decades to come, as the entire nation will be forced into a state of hyper inflation from which it would never recover.

Now, let's get down to some brass on Health Care and YOUR education about it.

Health care costs in the United States soared past $2.5 trillion dollars in 2010. In 1980, those same costs were a whopping $256 billion. That is a multiple of 10, just in case you need help with the math. But, that's not the destructive component. The real destructive component to all of this bloated health care expenditure, is the fact that current rates of growth in health care costs will EXCEED OUR NATIONAL INCOME at the current pace. Now, just stop being so Hyper-Political and THINK about what that means!

We are a nation that was headed down the path of spending more on just health care, than what our nation drives in aggregate annual income. That is totally UNSUSTAINABLE and it would have bankrupted our entire country. When you couple that with the fact that our country has been either in Recession or fighting from entering Recession over the past 12 years, and the lower incomes that are a direct result of constantly battling Recessionary pressures, that places an enormous burden on the average citizen, struggling to make current health care payments that continue to skyrocket and have skyrocketed over the past several DECADES.

97% of employers have seen an increase in health care costs SINCE 2002. This was not an Obama caused phenomena as Right Wing Nut politicians have lied about. Health Care costs rose the MOST under Bush 43 - that's a fact. Because the nation is growing older and more people are reaching the age where they become eligible for Medicare and Medicaid, the public sector cost expenditures have risen as well, placing even more burden on Federal and State Budgets. As a nation, we spent more than 18% of our GDP on health care and that was back in 2002! Again, NOT a problem created by President Obama, as the Right Wing Lies have concluded.

In giving you this education MaggieD, and in order for you to understand the importance and the significance of what the President did by pushing for the Affordable Health Care Act as early as he possibly could during his first term in office, it is extremely important that you fully understand just HOW our nation spends its health care dollars.

According to Health Affairs, in 2012, The United States of America spent:

1% on Government Administration (Republican Myth Busted)
3% on Residential and Personal Care
3% on Direct Home Health Care
3% on Retail Products related to Health Care
5% on "Other" related Personal Health Care
5% on Nursing Home Care
6% on Net Cost of Health Insurance
6% on Health Insurance Investments
7% on Other Professional Services related to Health Care
10% on Retail Drug Prescriptions for Health Care
20% on Physician and Clinical Services for Health Care
31% on Hospital Care

Now, when you look at these numbers it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we are spending (as a nation) more than 51% on Physician, Clinical Services and Hospitals. Well, guess what MaggieD. Physician Costs, Clinical Services Costs and Hospital Costs was PRECISELY what the Affordable Health Care Act, is primary geared to deal with. Please READ about how it works and what it TARGETS, MaggieD:

HealthCare.gov


Now, what are the Drivers of Health Care Expenditures in the United States, MaggieD? Let's continue our education on the subject, shall we.

- New Drug Patents
- Clinical Drug Trials
- New Medical Equipment Certification Costs
- Administrative Costs
- Chronic Disease Costs

Chronics Diseases are estimated at being nearly 75% of the aggregate cost of national health care in this country, MaggieD. That's HUGE. That's one of those cost factors that I alluded to in my summary introduction to you back at the top of my reply. Anything that consumes 75% of your expenditures is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO BE CONTINUALLY IGNORED! And, this is PART of what the new Affordable Health Care Acts is designed to tackle, MaggieD. Those are the facts - like it or not. We cannot continue to delude ourselves as a nation by pretending that Preventative Care Treatment is not something worth spending a LOT of time, energy and effort into making tremendously better than it is at present and THAT is also what the Affordable Health Care Act attempts to deal with, MaggieD.

Lastly, is the issue of Cost Containment. There are several factors here that I do not have the time to fully elaborate on, but some of the key issues that YOU need to educate yourself on are the following:

- Increased government oversight of insurer premiums, protocols and practices
- Increased competition among Health Insurance Providers AND Health Providers themselves
- The establishment of open-ended (Come As You Go) Health Care Exchanges
- Reforming the way payments are made when errors in treatment are detected and recognized
- Greater funding for CER (Comparative Effectiveness Research)
- Greater focus on a Patient Centric Model for Delivery of Care
- A more Enterprise Oriented approach to using Information Technology in Care Facilities


ALL of which were designed to be addressed by the Affordable Health Care Act.

Until you get your head around the fact that our economy WILL NOT SURVIVE on the current trajectory of national health care expenditures as such a massive component of our GDP, the sooner your real education on this subject will commence and the sooner you will understand what an amazingly important decision was made by this current President, to get the major ball rolling on solving our nation's Health Care COST Crisis.

We've been INCORRECTLY calling it a "Health Care Crisis," but the correct term is most definitely a Health Care COST Crisis and this President, nearly single handily, helped this country in future decades and generations to come and he has not NEARLY received anywhere near the level of credit for having done so, that the history books will one day proclaim.

THAT is what you have failed to properly understand about WHY this President spent the first half of his first term in office, dealing with Health Care. He was dealing with our Long-Term National Economy as a DIRECT result. The entire matter has been blown out of proportion by extremist on the Right, and twisted into proverbial knots as they lied about (and continue to lie about) what this President has actually done.

Now, you KNOW better.
 

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your whole post is BS... not one objective sourcing on the state of the economy supports anything postive on Obama... your desperation is comical as you flail away trying to get us to not believe our eyes..

please continue your posts are more unsettling then Pelosi's blinking rate


You read like a 4 year old child and you never rebut anything having been said. When you pull yourself out of the strong delusion that you now suffer from, come back to the thread and post something worthwhile. But, don't expect another reply from me if you can't even get real long enough to deal with the matter in substance and on the merits.
 

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Republicans were willing to destroy this country in order to destroy Obama....and now they are asking to be put back in charge?
That pretty much sums it up. Although I will add that some Dems crossed the aisle on many of the votes.
 

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Calling yourself a "centrist" is almost as funny as the op.

This President IS a failure. Not only has he destroyed the morale of the military, he has made the USA weaker than it has been in nearly half a century. His progressive agenda is not only wrong for this country, it is completly contrary to what the USA stands for and the ideals that this country was founded on.
 

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Calling yourself a "centrist" is almost as funny as the op.

This President IS a failure. Not only has he destroyed the morale of the military, he has made the USA weaker than it has been in nearly half a century. His progressive agenda is not only wrong for this country, it is completly contrary to what the USA stands for and the ideals that this country was founded on.
No facts...just mindless Travis like rhetoric..don't have travis be your idol
 

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The timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops in Iraq was decided during the Bush administration with the signing of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) by U.S. and Iraq officials on Nov. 16, 2008. The Iraqi parliament signed SOFA on Nov. 27, 2008.

The agreement, which had been in negotiations since 2007, set a timetable calling for most U.S. troops to leave Iraqi towns and cities by June 30, 2009, with about 50,000 troops left in place until the final withdrawal of all U.S. military forces by Dec. 31, 2011.
You forgot:

On December 14, 2008, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the security pact with Iraq. In his fourth and final trip to Iraq, the president appeared with Iraq's prime minister and said more work is to be done. During the press conference discussing the signing of the pact with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki in his palace in the heavily fortified Green Zone, President Bush dodged two shoes thrown at him from the audience.

The man who threw his shoes, Muntadhar al-Zaidi, an Iraqi journalist with Egypt-based al-Baghdadia television network, could be heard yelling in Arabic: "This is a farewell ... you dog!" as he threw his first shoe, and when throwing his second shoe al-Zaidi could be heard yelling: "This is for the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq!” While pinned on the ground by security personnel, he screamed: "You killed the Iraqis!" As the man’s screaming could be heard outside, Bush said “That’s what people do in a free society, draw attention to themselves."
You also omitted this:

As of May 2007, 55 percent of Americans believed that the Iraq war was a mistake, and 51 percent of registered voters favored troop withdrawal.
And, you forgot this:

CIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq - NBCNews.com
And, of course - there is the legality issue that you forgot to post as well:

The then United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said in September 2004 that: "From our point of view and the UN Charter point of view, it was illegal." The Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court reported in February 2006 that he had received 240 communications in connection with the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 which alleged that various war crimes had been committed.
Giving Bush credit for ending the war in Iraq, is a lot like giving Churchill, credit for dropping Fat Man on Hiroshima.


Giving Obama "credit" for the auto bailouts is questionable, since most Americans opposed it.
In 1959, according to a Gallup Poll, most Americans believed that Racial Segregation in Public Schools was better than the Supreme Courts decision in 1954, to make such segregation illegal.




Hardly much of an accomplishment. The surge, by the military's own report card, was a failure:
Did the report ever talk about the fact that the Surge came AFTER President Bush essentially abandoned the mission that HE began in Afghanistan, allowing the insurgents to regain strength, while the President relegated his duty as Commander In Chief, by illegally invading Iraq, in his question for Iraq Oil fields and the establishment of unlawful PSA Contracts for Foreign Nationals?

The answer is: No.

So, the question that begs to be asked is, what would have happened, if President Bush, had followed through with his commitment to the United States Troops who remained behind in Afghanistan, to essentially fight a war that was unwindable given the support from the Commander In Chief himself, George W. "AWOL From the TANG" Bush?

Offering "report cards" without offering background on the teacher, the school, or the fact that the school was too poor to pay for its own text books - is "hardly much of a rebuttal."
 
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