President Bush: Cause of all or free from anything? (1 Viewer)

[The Mark]

I have seen, heard, and read many many articles, threads, posts, and such about how President Bush is either to blame for this or that problem or how he is not to blame.

My question is.....How can one man be to blame for so many things, and from the opposing side, how can one man not be to blame for so many things. :lol:

Is he, in fact, to blame for all the things he has been accused of?

Is he, in fact, to blame for nothing that he has been accused of?

It is (from my point of view) extreemly funny to listen to all these persons defending and attacking our current president.

 

[Kandahar]

That's quite a vague question indeed, without knowing what accusations you're talking about. How could anyone possibly answer anything other than "he's to blame for some of the things"?

 

[Joby]

It's Bush's fault for this stuff, BUT DEFINITELY NOT for that stuff

 

[The Mark]

Oops.....:3oops: I meant to put this in the polls forum........:doh

Could a Mod please either move this thread to the Polls forum or delete it?

oh yeah....:3oops: :3oops:

 

[Iriemon]

IMO it is fair to blame Bush for the two biggest fiascos of his Administration, the runaway debt and the Iraqi fiasco, both of which present the serious possibility of long term negative ramifications for this country and both of which were easily avoidable.

Not fair to blame (or give credit) for general economic performance (excluding the deficits). Not fair to blame for oil prices. Not fair to blame for Katrina; is fair to blame for some of the poor response.

 

[Stace]

Moderator's Warning:

No links, no story.....not Breaking News. Moved to Polls.

 

[Kelzie]

I got a splinter yesterday. It was quite obviously Bush's fault. I'll be expecting a formal apology.

 

[Alastor]

I'd say he is "mostly" to blame for the things he is actually getting nailed on. In some cases I think he is getting too much blame. In others I don't think he's getting enough.

It all comes out in the wash.

History will certainly mark him as an atrocious President and it will view him very harshly (and justifiably so).

How much of that is circumstance? Some.

How much of that is his own doing and the result of choices his Administration made? Most of it.

 

[The Mark]

IMO it is fair to blame Bush for the two biggest fiascos of his Administration, the runaway debt and the Iraqi fiasco, both of which present the serious possibility of long term negative ramifications for this country and both of which were easily avoidable.

Not fair to blame (or give credit) for general economic performance (excluding the deficits). Not fair to blame for oil prices. Not fair to blame for Katrina; is fair to blame for some of the poor response.

Well, this should provide some interesting discussion.

First, I don't know much about the debt problem, must check that out.

Second, I am one of those strange persons who do not think Iraq is a fiasco, and who thinks that our operations in Iraq will have positive ramifications for us.

Third, I am not well versed on general economic performance, so I'll have to look into that before I decide if Pres. Bush is to blame for problems or to be thanked for the opposite.

Forth, I agree that Pres. Bush can not be blamed for oil prices, in fact, I'm not sure who can be (if anyone), although I've heard many, many suggestions.

Fifth, I'm one of those strange persons who think (and, as far as I can tell, have good reason too) that the response to Katrina was quite good, not poor. Also, IMO, while the response was good, the prep. was not.

 

[Joby]

I'd say he is "mostly" to blame for the things he is actually getting nailed on. In some cases I think he is getting too much blame. In others I don't think he's getting enough.

It all comes out in the wash.

History will certainly mark him as an atrocious President and it will view him very harshly (and justifiably so).

How much of that is circumstance? Some.

How much of that is his own doing and the result of choices his Administration made? Most of it.

We have no idea how history may judge Bush. The war in Iraq in 50 years may be remembered as well as the Occupation war in the Phillipines, a spin-off of the spanish american war like Iraq was 9-11.

In the decadent, I mean, uh, Progressive future be remembered more for being intolerant towards gays. WHo knows

 

[Kandahar]

I got a splinter yesterday. It was quite obviously Bush's fault. I'll be expecting a formal apology.

Bush also killed the dinosaurs. :mrgreen:

 

[Alastor]

We have no idea how history may judge Bush. The war in Iraq in 50 years may be remembered as well as the Occupation war in the Phillipines, a spin-off of the spanish american war like Iraq was 9-11.

In the decadent, I mean, uh, Progressive future be remembered more for being intolerant towards gays. WHo knows

True true, Joby.

But certain things are far more likely than others.

No, we can't predict the future. Chances are good that I won't be elected dictator of the world tomorrow though. Chances are good the sun will rise.

Nothing's absolute, but certain things are pretty automatic too.

 

[Billo_Really]

The brush-stroke of this thread is much too broad.

George Bush is a manifestation of a much bigger problem and greater threat, "Corporatism".

 

[DeeJayH]

I got a splinter yesterday. It was quite obviously Bush's fault. I'll be expecting a formal apology.

the single best answer of, not only this thread, but of most threads i have read lately
and i think it speaks volumes

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by Kandahar:
Bush also killed the dinosaurs.

He's also the reason Shaq went to Miami.