Never!During the pregnancy process, when should government step in and restrict the rights and freedoms of women?
What's the value?Both humans have value
The unborn do not have any rights.The government should protect the rights of both.
An abortion is needed if the woman decides it is. Even if her health or life is at stake, she must still consent to any procedure. Are you saying the woman cannot have an abortion once viability is reached, even if her life is in jeopardy?If the mother is dying because of the pregnancy, then an abortion is needed unless the child has reached viability.
There is no child in an abortion. Neither does it suffer. It's the pregnant woman who suffers. What about compassion for her? Whats compassionate about forcing a woman to gestate against her will by the state? Thats not compassionate. That's authoritarianism.If the child is suffering everything should be done to help him/her. If he/she will have lifelong suffering with no quality of life, then an abortion is compassionate, just like turning off life support for your suffering mother is compassionate.
While rape is terrible, to put it mildly, it's still the woman's choice to gestate or not.If a rape has occurred, then obviously that's a huge blow to the mental health of the mother and continuing the pregnancy will only make things worse for her health, then an abortion might be necessary.
As it should be.To be clear, the only right and freedom we're talking about here is abortion. IMHO, I'd be just fine letting women decide.
During the pregnancy process, when should government step in and restrict the rights and freedoms of women?
Bonus: Watch how the right-wing responds versus everyone else, then tell me which side is more authoritarian.
Never!
As it should be.
Both humans have value. The government should protect the rights of both. If the mother is dying because of the pregnancy, then an abortion is needed unless the child has reached viability. If the child is suffering everything should be done to help him/her. If he/she will have lifelong suffering with no quality of life, then an abortion is compassionate, just like turning off life support for your suffering mother is compassionate. If a rape has occurred, then obviously that's a huge blow to the mental health of the mother and continuing the pregnancy will only make things worse for her health, then an abortion might be necessary.
During the pregnancy process, when should government step in and restrict the rights and freedoms of women?
Both humans have value. The government should protect the rights of both. If the mother is dying because of the pregnancy, then an abortion is needed unless the child has reached viability. If the child is suffering everything should be done to help him/her. If he/she will have lifelong suffering with no quality of life, then an abortion is compassionate, just like turning off life support for your suffering mother is compassionate. If a rape has occurred, then obviously that's a huge blow to the mental health of the mother and continuing the pregnancy will only make things worse for her health, then an abortion might be necessary.
Usually a doctor.When is a threat to the life of the mother determined? By who?
The woman and the police.Who determines if rape occurred?
Pregnancy related health threats can happen anytime during a pregnancy, although it is likely more severe or risky the later in gestation. Some states have made thresholds of 6, 12, 15, 20, ect weeks gestation. But there is no explanation for those particular points.These are all thresholds designed to be ambiguous to restrict the freedom of the mother.
I answered: Never! (post #4)And you ultimately haven't answered the question: When should government restrict the freedom of women?
Usually a doctor.
The woman and the police.
Pregnancy related health threats can happen anytime during a pregnancy, although it is likely more severe or risky the later in gestation. Some states have made thresholds of 6, 12, 15, 20, ect weeks gestation. But there is no explanation for those particular points.
I answered: Never! (post #4)
Doctors in some states are now hesitant to intervene in pregnancy issues out of fear of litigation or imprisonment thanks to anti abortion laws. But doctors are also the ones with the training, skills, and expertise to diagnose and make those calls. As long as they follow medical standards of practice, they should not face legal repercussions.Except that if the doctor makes the wrong call they can lose their license or go to prison. Thus they err on the side of protecting themselves rather than health of the mother. And people have died as a result.
Rape is horrible and ideally, a victim will report it. But they do not always do so. Some states do not even allow an exemption for rape.This forces a woman to report their rape, the police to proactively seek the rapist, and for their to be some form of adjudication on the case. How long does that take? These exemptions ONLY exist for public media consumption. They are not practical exemptions and put the burden on the victim.
Agreed.Pregnancy is always a health risk.
See first statement.What's the threshold and would a doctor make a call in favor o f the women when the consequences are astronomically stacked against them?
During the pregnancy process, when should government step in and restrict the rights and freedoms of women?
Bonus: Watch how the right-wing responds versus everyone else, then tell me which side is more authoritarian.
When is a threat to the life of the mother determined? By who?
Who determines if rape occurred?
And you ultimately haven't answered the question: When should government restrict the freedom of women?
It doesn't matter if you say it or not. Abortion restrictions do limit women's rights and autonomy. There are no children in an abortion. That is just a simple fact.Now keep trying to get me to say "government restricts freedom of women" by not allowing them to kill their children.
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