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Possibly Gay Muslim Democrat Murders People. NY Times Blames... Republicans

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The best part is where they tut-tut scapegoating people for political gain..... while scapegoating a completely unrelated populace for political gain.

...Omar Mateen shattered the tenuous, hard-fought sense of personal safety that many gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans have begun to feel as the movement for equality has made significant gains in recent years. His bullets and the blood he left behind that early morning were a reminder that in many corners of the country, gay and transgender people are still regarded as sinners and second-class citizens who should be scorned. While the precise motivation for the rampage remains unclear, it is evident that Mr. Mateen was driven by hatred toward gays and lesbians. Hate crimes don’t happen in a vacuum. They occur where bigotry is allowed to fester, where minorities are vilified and where people are scapegoated for political gain. Tragically, this is the state of American politics, driven too often by Republican politicians who see prejudice as something to exploit, not extinguish....

It’s hard to say how many politicians take these positions as a matter of principle and how many do so because it has proved to be an effective way in the past to raise money and turn out the vote. As the funerals are held for those who perished on Sunday, lawmakers who have actively championed discriminatory laws and policies, and those who have quietly enabled them with votes, should force themselves to read the obituaries and look at the photos. The 49 people killed in Orlando were victims of a terrorist attack. But they also need to be remembered as casualties of a society where hate has deep roots.

Yeah. Republicans are well known for normalizing Islamist ideology. Wait, no, no, no, woops, that's the occasional Democrat, who, in their eagerness to prove how tolerant they are, tolerate evil. And, you know, occasional Democrats like Omar Mateen.

But no. The NYTimes is so desperate to attack those with whom they disagree, that now Republicans are to blame for the actions of Islamist Terrorists who are registered Democrats.

:roll:
 

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It's about as honest as the NYT is anymore. The only honesty I see in that piece is to their leftist ideology.
 

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It's labeled as opinion, so it doesn't fit the conventional definition of media bias.
 

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The best part is where they tut-tut scapegoating people for political gain..... while scapegoating a completely unrelated populace for political gain.



Yeah. Republicans are well known for normalizing Islamist ideology. Wait, no, no, no, woops, that's the occasional Democrat, who, in their eagerness to prove how tolerant they are, tolerate evil. And, you know, occasional Democrats like Omar Mateen.

But no. The NYTimes is so desperate to attack those with whom they disagree, that now Republicans are to blame for the actions of Islamist Terrorists who are registered Democrats.

:roll:

It appears to me that you are making his political registration an issue. Registering as a Democrat 10 years ago doesn't mean he voted that way all these years does it?
 

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It appears to me that you are making his political registration an issue. Registering as a Democrat 10 years ago doesn't mean he voted that way all these years does it?

If we have him as a registered Democrat. And his motivating ideology (if any) was Islamist radicalism.


Then blaming Republicans for his actions is idiotic. It would be like arguing that the people actually responsible for the abortion-clinic bombers are secular New York liberals.
 

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Sally Kohn (a gay liberal) went on a Twitter tirade against Christians after the Orlando terrorist attack. Baffling.
 

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If we have him as a registered Democrat. And his motivating ideology (if any) was Islamist radicalism.


Then blaming Republicans for his actions is idiotic. It would be like arguing that the people actually responsible for the abortion-clinic bombers are secular New York liberals.
When it is a white shooter they can blame white people, racism, the confederate flag, and the Dukes of Hazzard. When it is a gay democrat Muslim they blame the NRA.

When background checks werent done (in the FEW instances where background checks werent done, they shriek for universal background checks. When background checks WERE done they shriek for universal background checks. When "assault rifles" are used they shriek for assault rifle bans. When handguns are used, they shriek for assault rifle bans. When a gun was bought legally through a gun store they shriek about "the gunshow loophole". When guns are bought through the gun show loophole...well...that hasnt happened so they just ALWAYS shriek about "the gunshow loophole".

Meh...nothing surprises me anymore.
 

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Sally Kohn (a gay liberal) went on a Twitter tirade against Christians after the Orlando terrorist attack. Baffling.
Hell...people on THIS SITE were tripping over themselves to drag "the Christians" into this.
 

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Sally Kohn (a gay liberal) went on a Twitter tirade against Christians after the Orlando terrorist attack. Baffling.

Not at all. When you have an agenda, why let a tragedy go to waste? Opportunity is what it is.
 

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Sally Kohn (a gay liberal) went on a Twitter tirade against Christians after the Orlando terrorist attack. Baffling.

Hell...people on THIS SITE were tripping over themselves to drag "the Christians" into this.

I've linked this a couple of times in different contexts, but it's a thought-piece worth re-mentioning here:

I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup

...The Red Tribe is most classically typified by conservative political beliefs, strong evangelical religious beliefs, creationism, opposing gay marriage, owning guns, eating steak, drinking Coca-Cola, driving SUVs, watching lots of TV, enjoying American football, getting conspicuously upset about terrorists and commies, marrying early, divorcing early, shouting “USA IS NUMBER ONE!!!”, and listening to country music. The Blue Tribe is most classically typified by liberal political beliefs, vague agnosticism, supporting gay rights, thinking guns are barbaric, eating arugula, drinking fancy bottled water, driving Priuses, reading lots of books, being highly educated, mocking American football, feeling vaguely like they should like soccer but never really being able to get into it, getting conspicuously upset about sexists and bigots, marrying later, constantly pointing out how much more civilized European countries are than America, and listening to “everything except country”....

Anyway, three months ago, someone finally had the bright idea of doing an Implicit Association Test with political parties, and they found that people’s unconscious partisan biases were half again as strong as their unconscious racial biases (h/t Bloomberg. For example, if you are a white Democrat, your unconscious bias against blacks (as measured by something called a d-score) is 0.16, but your unconscious bias against Republicans will be 0.23. The Cohen’s d for racial bias was 0.61, by the book a “moderate” effect size; for party it was 0.95, a “large” effect size... if you’re part of the Blue Tribe, then your outgroup isn’t al-Qaeda, or Muslims, or blacks, or gays, or transpeople, or Jews, or atheists – it’s the Red Tribe.... The outgroup of the Red Tribe is occasionally blacks and gays and Muslims, more often the Blue Tribe. The Blue Tribe has performed some kind of very impressive act of alchemy, and transmuted all of its outgroup hatred to the Red Tribe....
 

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Sally Kohn (a gay liberal) went on a Twitter tirade against Christians after the Orlando terrorist attack. Baffling.
Its a little bit interesting that NO ONE is discussing the fact that a gay Muslim shot up a gay bar in Florida and in California, police were able to stop a gay man who had traveled from Indiana with the probable intent to shoot up the gay pride parade.
 

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leftists are seemingly incapable of accepting responsibility for their actions, hence why societies they run tend to fail; it's difficult to fix a problem you refuse to see. that mindset is not good for running an economy, which works based on reality not feelings.

Democrat logic; Drunk Driver killed your son? Ban cars!

Democrat logic; Gay Muslim Democrat killed Gays? Ban Hate Speech/Ar-15s, but a religion which advocates killing Gays is fine...and somehow not hate speech.

Democrat logic; Work for a living? You're the problem, now give us all your money.

Democrat logic; Businesses are shutting down? How dare those greedy scum not bankrupt themselves attempting to navigate our sea of regulations.

Real logic; What the hell is wrong with you people?

Wake up people, would you really want your 6 year-old who won't even admit she spilled the milk she's covered in, running America?
 
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When it is a white shooter they can blame white people, racism, the confederate flag, and the Dukes of Hazzard. When it is a gay democrat Muslim they blame the NRA.

When background checks werent done (in the FEW instances where background checks werent done, they shriek for universal background checks. When background checks WERE done they shriek for universal background checks. When "assault rifles" are used they shriek for assault rifle bans. When handguns are used, they shriek for assault rifle bans. When a gun was bought legally through a gun store they shriek about "the gunshow loophole". When guns are bought through the gun show loophole...well...that hasnt happened so they just ALWAYS shriek about "the gunshow loophole".

Meh...nothing surprises me anymore.

The take away is that they are always shrieking about something, and often it's not logically connected to the events they are shrieking about.
 

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The best part is where they tut-tut scapegoating people for political gain..... while scapegoating a completely unrelated populace for political gain.



Yeah. Republicans are well known for normalizing Islamist ideology. Wait, no, no, no, woops, that's the occasional Democrat, who, in their eagerness to prove how tolerant they are, tolerate evil. And, you know, occasional Democrats like Omar Mateen.

But no. The NYTimes is so desperate to attack those with whom they disagree, that now Republicans are to blame for the actions of Islamist Terrorists who are registered Democrats.

:roll:

Meh, the party affiliation is meaningless. Islam is by its nature is an extremely conservative faith. Even in the relatively cosmopolitan Morocco the culture is still a thousand times less liberal than the least liberal belief system. Where it goes completely fubar is in how Islam is caught between the opposing ideologies here in the United States.

1. Islam's less inclusive, less tolerant beliefs should make it a natural fit for conservative-leaning parties.
2. However, the Republican party has turned into the xenophobic, anti-Islam party, alienating Muslims in their entirety.
3. Islam's less inclusive, less tolerant beliefs should make it a natural opposition for liberal-leaning parties.
4. However, liberal concepts of multiculturalism make Islam feel invited, and yet...
5. Liberal and Islamic ideologies share almost no common ground whatsoever.

It's schizophrenic as hell.
 

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leftists are seemingly incapable of accepting responsibility for their actions, hence why societies they run tend to fail; it's difficult to fix a problem you refuse to see. that mindset is not good for running an economy, which works based on reality not feelings.

Democrat logic; Drunk Driver killed your son? Ban cars!

Democrat logic; Gay Muslim Democrat killed Gays? Ban Hate Speech/Ar-15s, but a religion which advocates killing Gays is fine...and somehow not hate speech.

Democrat logic; Work for a living? You're the problem, now give us all your money.

Democrat logic; Businesses are shutting down? How dare those greedy scum not bankrupt themselves attempting to navigate our sea of regulations.

Real logic; What the hell is wrong with you people?

Wake up people, would you really want your 6 year-old who won't even admit she spilled the milk she's covered in, running America?

No more AM radio for you.
 

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It appears to me that you are making his political registration an issue. Registering as a Democrat 10 years ago doesn't mean he voted that way all these years does it?

then we have David Duke, the Klansman. Not only did he register as a Republican, he even ran for office as one.
 

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leftists are seemingly incapable of accepting responsibility for their actions, hence why societies they run tend to fail; it's difficult to fix a problem you refuse to see. that mindset is not good for running an economy, which works based on reality not feelings.

Democrat logic; Drunk Driver killed your son? Ban cars!

Democrat logic; Gay Muslim Democrat killed Gays? Ban Hate Speech/Ar-15s, but a religion which advocates killing Gays is fine...and somehow not hate speech.

Democrat logic; Work for a living? You're the problem, now give us all your money.

Democrat logic; Businesses are shutting down? How dare those greedy scum not bankrupt themselves attempting to navigate our sea of regulations.

Real logic; What the hell is wrong with you people?

Wake up people, would you really want your 6 year-old who won't even admit she spilled the milk she's covered in, running America?

the last part of your name may be the most accurate description anybody has ever had on this forum. Good for you. I'm all for Truth in Advertising.
 

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Its a little bit interesting that NO ONE is discussing the fact that a gay Muslim shot up a gay bar in Florida and in California, police were able to stop a gay man who had traveled from Indiana with the probable intent to shoot up the gay pride parade.

These guys are folk heroes to the extreme Right. They'll be naming streets after them once the theocracy becomes a reality here in the US.
 

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When it is a white shooter they can blame white people, racism, the confederate flag, and the Dukes of Hazzard. When it is a gay democrat Muslim they blame the NRA.

When background checks werent done (in the FEW instances where background checks werent done, they shriek for universal background checks. When background checks WERE done they shriek for universal background checks. When "assault rifles" are used they shriek for assault rifle bans. When handguns are used, they shriek for assault rifle bans. When a gun was bought legally through a gun store they shriek about "the gunshow loophole". When guns are bought through the gun show loophole...well...that hasnt happened so they just ALWAYS shriek about "the gunshow loophole".

Meh...nothing surprises me anymore.

No, we blame the NRA for all of it.
 

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No you don't. I don't get into arguments with gun nuts because they are irrational. Nice try, though.
 

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These guys are folk heroes to the extreme Right. They'll be naming streets after them once the theocracy becomes a reality here in the US.
Thats a stupid comment. You are 2 for 2.
 

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Meh, the party affiliation is meaningless. Islam is by its nature is an extremely conservative faith. Even in the relatively cosmopolitan Morocco the culture is still a thousand times less liberal than the least liberal belief system. Where it goes completely fubar is in how Islam is caught between the opposing ideologies here in the United States.

1. Islam's less inclusive, less tolerant beliefs should make it a natural fit for conservative-leaning parties.

False. The Republican party supports the traditionalist interpretation of the Constitution that values individual liberty and limited government. Islam is both a religion and a form of government that is anathema to the US Constitution.

For an Islamist to make inroads into the US it is a much shorter trip through the DNC as they already advocate a huge, overbearing Government that is required for a theocracy.

2. However, the Republican party has turned into the xenophobic, anti-Islam party, alienating Muslims in their entirety.

Not xenophobic, culturephobic. The cultures of oppressive failed states shouldn't be embraced in America.

Republicans embrace people from all over the world of all colors who agree with their small government, "American Way" and individual liberty political view. You know, the ones Democrats like to call "Uncle Toms".

3. Islam's less inclusive, less tolerant beliefs should make it a natural opposition for liberal-leaning parties.

Except that the modern liberals are anything but liberal. Today they are true believers in the authoritarian state.

4. However, liberal concepts of multiculturalism make Islam feel invited, and yet...

Not really. Progressivism runs close to the goals of the political side of Islam, but many want nothing to do with American multiculturalism.

5. Liberal and Islamic ideologies share almost no common ground whatsoever.

Big oppressive government. Progressives want it to be secular, Muslims want it to be an Islamic theocracy. Both assume that they will dance hand in hand to this Utopia, and then throw the other under the nearest train when the time comes.

It's schizophrenic as hell.

It's perfectly rational when you understand the goals of the progressives and Islamic radicals.
 
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Sally Kohn (a gay liberal) went on a Twitter tirade against Christians after the Orlando terrorist attack. Baffling.

It really isn't baffling for democrats/liberals/lefties to lash out at conservatives for whatever ills plague this Earth, even if they are caused by, you guessed it, democrats/liberals/lefties.

It's the new normal.
 
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