That's fine. What did the two sides lose?
Violating the rights of roughly half the pregnant women isn't any kind of compromise. Women either have the right to do with the bodies as they see fit or they don't.
Abortion seems to be a woman's right thing. I think I have come up with a moderate position that pro-lifers and pro-choicers can agree upon.
Abortions cannot be performed until the gender of the child can be determined. If the fetus is a female then it cannot be aborted. If the fetus is a male then the green light is on. You are free to abort your male fetus.
Would you accept sex selective abortions that protects female fetuses?
This poll is open to pro-lifers and pro-choicers. Would you be willing to meet 50/50 to end this debate once and for all?
Abortion seems to be a woman's right thing. I think I have come up with a moderate position that pro-lifers and pro-choicers can agree upon.
Abortions cannot be performed until the gender of the child can be determined. If the fetus is a female then it cannot be aborted. If the fetus is a male then the green light is on. You are free to abort your male fetus.
Would you accept sex selective abortions that protects female fetuses?
This poll is open to pro-lifers and pro-choicers. Would you be willing to meet 50/50 to end this debate once and for all?
Violating the rights of roughly half the pregnant women isn't any kind of compromise. Women either have the right to do with their bodies as they see fit or they don't. There are really no half measures here.
The compromise is that pro-life will get to learn more about Constitutional Rights. Pro-choice women get what they should have always been recognized as having: "Equal Protection"..."Due Process"..."Right to Privacy".
Then they shouldn't have sex if they don't like the compromise...
Sex isn't just for procreation.
I know... it is also for recreation.
Abortion seems to be a woman's right thing. I think I have come up with a moderate position that pro-lifers and pro-choicers can agree upon.
Abortions cannot be performed until the gender of the child can be determined. If the fetus is a female then it cannot be aborted. If the fetus is a male then the green light is on. You are free to abort your male fetus.
Would you accept sex selective abortions that protects female fetuses?
This poll is open to pro-lifers and pro-choicers. Would you be willing to meet 50/50 to end this debate once and for all?
Nope. Can't have that. Freedom only applies to men and guns.
If this is a compromise then what is the original positions before the compromise? What did both sides gain? What did both sides lose? This doesn't sound much like a compromise unless your name is Barrack Obama.
Funny how freedom is so important to conservatives except as it applies to a woman's freedom of reproductive choice.
endless hysterical, nonsensical, needless harassment, disseminate dishonest propaganda.
No, killing other human beings in aggression has nothing to do with individual freedom. If you think it does, you probably should be kept somewhere secure, away from other people.
Except no one is killing "human beings". Fail.
What you and many DONT SEEM TO GET is that many pro-life advocates think that they are upholding Constitutional Rights as they see the conceived AS A PERSON.
They want THAT PERSON to have Constitutional Rights to life, liberty and property. They do not want to see a person get murdered.
Pro-choicers are very dishonest about that and Pro-lifers are not good at articulating it.
Yet here you are doing the very same thing, the only thing on a continual basis. What a fine display of hypocrisy again.Stupidly denying reality doesn't change it.
Yep, that nonsense seems to be what the majority of anti-choicers, including those who are women, believe. Luckily, I don't have to, and neither does anyone else.
Obviously to you, it doesn't. But guess what; I don't run my life by what anti-choicers "think."
No Bod, they don't get it and obviously you don't get it. An unborn is NOT A PERSON IN THE EYES OF THE LAW or the CONSTITUTION!
I clearly understand that Bod. I really do.
After several years frequenting this forum, I clearly understand the pro-life's "beliefs", "opinions", and how they "want it to be". But those things just aren't supported by the Constitution or statutory laws.
What Pro-life doesn't understand is that the Pro-choice argument can be made without using the words "abortion, zygote, blastocyst, embryo, fetus, baby, or child.
The arguments are mutually exclusive.
Stupidly denying reality doesn't change it. The failure is all yours. Well and your passive aggressive little friend; she gets to share in your epic fail.
No. You don't get THEIR point of view because all that you did was to re-iterate YOUR point of view and back it up with your interpretation of biology as dictated by law.
Sorry man, but you really don't get their point of view... at least not as expressed in this post.
NO...sorry man. I clearly get their point of view. I clearly reiterated REALITY.
What we have here is a huge difference in the fundamental arguments between pro-choice and pro-life. Again, the arguments are "mutually exclusive". No, women's arguments aren't related to biology issues regarding an unborn. Not even in the ballpark.
I TOTALLY GET THE PRO-LIFE's POINT OF VIEW, BOD. I've thought it over many times (probably thousands of times) in my life...and I DON'T AGREE with the pro-life's perspective! I was getting their point PRIOR to 1973. I was getting their point when the Roe v Wade decision was handed down. I was an adult then. I could actually engage in using critical thinking skills. In fact, I was 27 frickin years old and educated. I didn't agree with pro-life then...and I don't agree now. What was your stance on the issue in 1973?
And Bod, if you really need to intervene in my exchanges with others. It would be helpful if you stopped telling me what I get and don't get. Let the poor babies stand up for themselves.
Obviously you are taking the pro-life position. Good! I disagree with you, too.
YES, women clearly DO HAVE and SHOULD HAVE the right to kill a non-viable fetus without any questions asked from any authority...PERIOD, EVER! I completely support that right to kill a fetus.
Oh, and the "interpretation of biology as dictated by law" comment...so what? You think that abortion is the only issue in which that might apply? Perhaps we need to get the Pope to referee this issue between the two factions? We'll just appeal to Canon Law on this matter rather than interpretation of biology as dictated by law? That's what most pro-life would love to do.
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