Porn should be banned, here’s why

[lurchadams]

The problem with porn is, thaT IT IS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE MAN/BOY. Women are for screwing, and manhandling. They are simulated raped. Porn causes young boys to grow up with a distorted view of the purpose of women, and what pleases a woman.

Mock violence accompanies most scenes. Women have disgusting things marked on them across their chests, such as with lipstick. That is my main concern.

Yep, I don't like the rough stuff. What really grosses me out now are the scenes where men choke women with their penises during fellatio. It makes me nauseous to watch - I don't understand the appeal of that at all!

 

[lurchadams]

I do not purport to know the state of regulation of porn in Japan. Nor did I say all material that’s pornographic should be banned as that’s impossible. However I think it’s easier then people think to restrict hardcore Internet pornography by putting the onus on ISPs and the tech industry.

because at the end of the day this is a problem and it hooks children often before they even begin puberty. I saw my first issue of playboy when I was 11 and it only got worse from there. It’s only recently I realized that I was traumatized from pornography exposure and I think I had every right to expect the adults in positions of leadership when I was a child to protect me from this.

as a young adult I would go to strip clubs and strippers wouldn’t arouse me because I viewed online pornography. It was only after a long time of abstinence I was able to connect with a woman in a meaningful relationship. and I’ve seen many stories like mine This has real effects on real people. So it’s true you cannot fully Prevent everything but society has an obligation to make it difficult. At least so difficult young kids can’t see it, viewing porn is not a natural impulse, it is a perversion of what’s supposed to be beautiful.

as far as priests, celibacy is not to blame, we’ve seen many examples of school teachers, scout leaders, police officers, Protestant ministers, etc engaging in perversion. Abuse of children is more widespread then anyone cares to admit

Well, this gives a lot of insight into what motivates you and how your pain manifests itself. Interesting. My sympathies for your childhood trauma and my best wishes in your recovery!

 

[lurchadams]

I wish such a thing existed. I think the trigger point for me was I learned of actual videos of rape being uploaded to a popular video hosting site for porn and I felt so dirty and I managed to stop, it was shortly before I went to Chile and that was a trip that caused my reversion back to church and learning about the faith caused me to begin to exercise more self control, but in a secular society I think creating secular groups to have a conversation (to borrow the secular lingo ) about pornography and it’s effects on young people is absolutely something that needs to happen and people need to be willing to openly talk about porn like we talk about drug abuse

There are recovery groups for sexual addiction. There may not be in rural areas but:

Meetings Schedule – Puget Sound SAA

pugetsoundsaa.org

Again, my best wishes for your continued recovery!

 

[Jason Warfield]

Simple argument, all forms of internet pornography should be totally banned by the government. I should say all porn but I’ll stick to internet for now. Here’s why

1) it is intrinsically evil:
The sexual act is ordered towards procreation and unity towards the partners, any deviation is disordered, disordered acts are evil because they are not good. It damages the soul to view pornography

2) There is rampant abuse of the actors in the industry: many pornographic actresses take drugs in order to shoot the scenes. Many actresses and actors have been sexually abused as children and their participation in porn is furthering their trauma

3) it is impossible to regulate:
it is impossible to determine whether or not the performers in every single internet video uploaded to video browsing sites have given full legal consent and are legal adults. In many cases there are videos of revenge porn posted which destroy the lives of the victims and forever associate their names with depictions or intimate moments they believed were private. More disturbingly many searches for videos contain words like “rape” or “gangbang” meaning the searcher is looking for videos of content that it at least identical to a fantasy of sexual assault. Many other search terms commonly used on browsers express an interest in seeing teenaged girls.

4) These websites often market to children and are easily accessible to minors. If RJ Reynolds started a website where teens could just mail order cigarettes with no ID and no age verification there would be hell to pay, why is it different? Cigarettes are way less harmful then porn. Children cannot legally consent to view such images. If some guy in a trench coat was at the park handing out Penthouse there would be an uproar. Yet internet porn is worse.

Common defenses made by wankers and misguided libertarians include:

“Well it’s not harming anyone”

well I just showed multiple ways it does

“but muh first amendment”

your first amendment was never written to protect pornography. It was written to protect political speech conveying ideas. Pornography does not contain political ideas. The founders were not considering protecting your right to watch children getting raped on porn sites.

“people will do it anyway”
So the F what?

“well let’s see your browser history you bible thumping hypocrite”

PM me with some way you can look at my history and we’ll discuss it, but even if I did look at porn, which I regrettably used to do but fortunately no longer do, it does not mean any argument I make is wrong. the Amor lives in LA and in her neighborhood when people get on the freeway they drive fast, I get on the 405 and pull 80 mph and people are still passing me, does this mean I’m wrong to support speed limits? No it does not.
Conclusion, internet pornography should be totally outlawed no exceptions

Define pornography. I'm being serious, not flippant. Give us what you think pornography is, because the first step to banning something is to properly define it.

 

[zyzygy]

The sexual act is ordered towards fun!

 

[zyzygy]

The sexual act is ordered towards procreation? What a daft statement. I have two children, does that mean that my wife and I should have only had sex twice?

 

[RealityNow]

Whom ever is going to ever try to stop people from "depicting sexual activity" is pursuing a futile agenda.... People have depicted it long before the Camera's Exist in painting, sculpture's and any other way they could depict it.

Any person that does not want to look at it, is not forced to do so. (Some people are obsessed with trying to control others and obsessively worry about stuff that has nothing to do with them, if they focus more on what they do, instead of trying to deal with what other people do... maybe they can actualize their own lives.)

 

[vegas giants]

Yes, we have time for that bull****.

Maybe you dont have time because it's not rape

 

[code1211]

Simple argument, all forms of internet pornography should be totally banned by the government. I should say all porn but I’ll stick to internet for now. Here’s why

1) it is intrinsically evil:
The sexual act is ordered towards procreation and unity towards the partners, any deviation is disordered, disordered acts are evil because they are not good. It damages the soul to view pornography

2) There is rampant abuse of the actors in the industry: many pornographic actresses take drugs in order to shoot the scenes. Many actresses and actors have been sexually abused as children and their participation in porn is furthering their trauma

3) it is impossible to regulate:
it is impossible to determine whether or not the performers in every single internet video uploaded to video browsing sites have given full legal consent and are legal adults. In many cases there are videos of revenge porn posted which destroy the lives of the victims and forever associate their names with depictions or intimate moments they believed were private. More disturbingly many searches for videos contain words like “rape” or “gangbang” meaning the searcher is looking for videos of content that it at least identical to a fantasy of sexual assault. Many other search terms commonly used on browsers express an interest in seeing teenaged girls.

4) These websites often market to children and are easily accessible to minors. If RJ Reynolds started a website where teens could just mail order cigarettes with no ID and no age verification there would be hell to pay, why is it different? Cigarettes are way less harmful then porn. Children cannot legally consent to view such images. If some guy in a trench coat was at the park handing out Penthouse there would be an uproar. Yet internet porn is worse.

Common defenses made by wankers and misguided libertarians include:

“Well it’s not harming anyone”

well I just showed multiple ways it does

“but muh first amendment”

your first amendment was never written to protect pornography. It was written to protect political speech conveying ideas. Pornography does not contain political ideas. The founders were not considering protecting your right to watch children getting raped on porn sites.

“people will do it anyway”
So the F what?

“well let’s see your browser history you bible thumping hypocrite”

PM me with some way you can look at my history and we’ll discuss it, but even if I did look at porn, which I regrettably used to do but fortunately no longer do, it does not mean any argument I make is wrong. the Amor lives in LA and in her neighborhood when people get on the freeway they drive fast, I get on the 405 and pull 80 mph and people are still passing me, does this mean I’m wrong to support speed limits? No it does not.
Conclusion, internet pornography should be totally outlawed no exceptions

Can you offer a legally useful definition of Porn?

 

[Peter King]

Simple argument, all forms of internet pornography should be totally banned by the government. I should say all porn but I’ll stick to internet for now. Here’s why

1) it is intrinsically evil:
The sexual act is ordered towards procreation and unity towards the partners, any deviation is disordered, disordered acts are evil because they are not good. It damages the soul to view pornography

2) There is rampant abuse of the actors in the industry: many pornographic actresses take drugs in order to shoot the scenes. Many actresses and actors have been sexually abused as children and their participation in porn is furthering their trauma

3) it is impossible to regulate:
it is impossible to determine whether or not the performers in every single internet video uploaded to video browsing sites have given full legal consent and are legal adults. In many cases there are videos of revenge porn posted which destroy the lives of the victims and forever associate their names with depictions or intimate moments they believed were private. More disturbingly many searches for videos contain words like “rape” or “gangbang” meaning the searcher is looking for videos of content that it at least identical to a fantasy of sexual assault. Many other search terms commonly used on browsers express an interest in seeing teenaged girls.

4) These websites often market to children and are easily accessible to minors. If RJ Reynolds started a website where teens could just mail order cigarettes with no ID and no age verification there would be hell to pay, why is it different? Cigarettes are way less harmful then porn. Children cannot legally consent to view such images. If some guy in a trench coat was at the park handing out Penthouse there would be an uproar. Yet internet porn is worse.

Common defenses made by wankers and misguided libertarians include:

“Well it’s not harming anyone”

well I just showed multiple ways it does

“but muh first amendment”

your first amendment was never written to protect pornography. It was written to protect political speech conveying ideas. Pornography does not contain political ideas. The founders were not considering protecting your right to watch children getting raped on porn sites.

“people will do it anyway”
So the F what?

“well let’s see your browser history you bible thumping hypocrite”

PM me with some way you can look at my history and we’ll discuss it, but even if I did look at porn, which I regrettably used to do but fortunately no longer do, it does not mean any argument I make is wrong. the Amor lives in LA and in her neighborhood when people get on the freeway they drive fast, I get on the 405 and pull 80 mph and people are still passing me, does this mean I’m wrong to support speed limits? No it does not.
Conclusion, internet pornography should be totally outlawed no exceptions

1. utter nonsense. just because you have antiquated out of touch views on sex and the enjoyment of sex does not mean porn or sex for fun has to be banned. And as an atheist I do not believe in souls or that it damages people (normally). Because everything you put "TOO MUCH" for can be detrimental. Just casual porn watchers do not damage anything.

2. you are generalizing the porn industry, just because that is the way it is done in the US does not mean it happens like that everywhere.

3. it is possible to regulate. As soon as 23 year old and older just participate in porn and businesses have to prove that with passports and medical tests.

4. So because parents do not have a parental lock and do not watch what their children are watching is no reason to ban it for the rest of humanity.

It is protected by the first amendment, you don't get to decide what freedom of speech is allowed, if you can publicly make racist or antisemitic comments (even in the media) then porn has the same freedom other form of speech have.

You don't watch porn and let the rest of us live as we see fit.

 

[Ginger Ale]

My problem with porn is once it went online it became available to children. Given porn includes rape porn, abuse porn, bestiality, etc, I see it as a real problem as it intermingles violence, rape, sadism etc with sex as a norm including to children. "Click here if you are not 18" doesn't work and everyone knows it.

Same with guns. Once they were legal, children have access and have used accordingly to kill themselves or others.
Alcohol, same.
Pot, same.
Porn, same.

To keep anything out of the hands of children, you'd have to keep it out of the hands of parents. Are you willing to do that?

 

[joko104]

Same with guns. Once they were legal, children have access and have used accordingly to kill themselves or others.
Alcohol, same.
Pot, same.
Porn, same.

To keep anything out of the hands of children, you'd have to keep it out of the hands of parents. Are you willing to do that?

No, guns, pot and alcohol can be locked up. A child can't just to into any store or to any friend's house and get a gun, pot or alcohol. They can get porn anywhere.

 

[HenryChinaski]

Those who rally this loudly against this stuff, pretending moral virtuousness are the biggest users of it. These people are full of shite and on pornhub all day.

 

[Guyzilla]

There is a very disturbing thing going on in porn. They MAKE you watch robot porn, till you are able to see humans. They anticipate porn becoming illegal. And so, they will soon have only games and porn, with fake humans. Like Jessica Rabbit. But the good thing is, they dont torture the robots. Noone wants to see cartoon characters harmed, cept for the coyote and donald duck.

 

[HenryChinaski]

There was not an explosion of organized crime during prohibition, the growth in organized crime was relatively small and it was chasing a market that was only a fraction of its former self

Prohibition made millionaires out of petty criminals and safe crackers. And it opened another revenue stream for established criminal organizations already profiting from gambling, prostitution and racketeering. It also increased the salaries 100 fold for law enforcement, many prohibition agents, truck drivers, warehouse owners right down to poor people.

 

[Luce]

There was not an explosion of organized crime during prohibition,

This is the dumbest thing I have seen on the internet since the internet started.

Take a bow.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Conservatives -- champions of freedom LOL

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Conservatives -- champions of freedom LOL

Says who? What does freedom even mean? I think true freedom is the freedom to choose virtue, not the freedom to choose vice

 

[zyzygy]

there’s a fairly easy way to regulate, just make the executives of ISPs criminally liable for allowing it to be accessed On their networks.
Sure there’s ways around this, but unlike leftists I’m not a utopian, I don’t claim the problem
Will go away, merely that heavy regulation will decrease viewership.

I would bet that plenty of rightists watch porn.

 

[Luce]

Says who? What does freedom even mean? I think true freedom is the freedom to choose virtue, not the freedom to choose vice

That's not freedom, that's dictatorship.

 

[zyzygy]

Says who? What does freedom even mean? I think true freedom is the freedom to choose virtue, not the freedom to choose vice

Wrong. Freedom is freedom. Don't you want to live in the land of the free?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I would bet that plenty of rightists watch porn.

You are probably right, what is your point?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

That's not freedom, that's dictatorship.

Do you view a dictator ship as inherently wrong?

 

[zyzygy]

Says who? What does freedom even mean? I think true freedom is the freedom to choose virtue, not the freedom to choose vice

noun

1. 1.
   the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants.
   "we do have some freedom of choice"

You are probably right, what is your point?

It went right over your head.

 

[zyzygy]

Do you view a dictator ship as inherently wrong?

Were Hitler and Stalin inherently wrong?