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Porn is Bad for Your Health

So are Bridezillas, but that does not mean that there should be, or that I will take them seriously.

Getting a joke out of "sex addiction" is good enough for me, tyvm.

Okay, whatever floats your boat.
 
Okay, whatever floats your boat.

At some point these things are not maladies but rather particular deficiencies in substandard people.

Reasonable people can disagree on where the line is, or should be, and I mean this in all seriousness.


Have a great evening.
 
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That is the conclusion of the article he quoted. Do you accept the article, or don't you?

That's not the conclusion in the abstract which discusses quality of life. The full article he linked also discusses how women feel in marriages, something over which men explicitly do not own.

Rosenfeld Gender said:
Explanations for Why Women are more likely to Want Divorce
1) Sensitivity to Relationship Issues
Hypothesis 1: Women want the clear majority of heterosexual divorces.
Corollary 1a: Women’s tendency to want divorce is robust to multivariate controls from the individual or couple level.

Rosenfeld Gender said:
2) Marriage as a Gender Factory
Hypothesis 2: In nonmarital heterosexual couples, neither gender dominates in who wants breakups.
Rosenfeld Gender said:
3) Power Differentials within Relationships
Hypothesis 3: Self-reported relationship quality has a stronger effect on women wanting to break up than on men wanting to break up.

The conclusions as follows do not mention the conclusion you suggested of treating women as property:

The uniquely gendered character of heterosexual marriage is consistent with the view that heterosexual marriage is a gender factory.

Most married women are happily married, and married couples are relatively stable.

The stalled gender revolution theory implicates a lack of progress of gender roles within heterosexual marriage as one cause of the stalled progress of women in society in general.

I would argue that gender roles are subjective and this in no way indicates that men are unilaterally expressing ownership over women. I suspect the reverse is just as likely to be the case.
 
That's not the conclusion in the abstract which discusses quality of life. The full article he linked also discusses how women feel in marriages, something over which men explicitly do not own.


Hypothesis 1: Women want the clear majority of heterosexual divorces.
Corollary 1a: Women’s tendency to want divorce is robust to multivariate controls from the individual or couple level.


Hypothesis 2: In nonmarital heterosexual couples, neither gender dominates in who wants breakups.

Hypothesis 3: Self-reported relationship quality has a stronger effect on women wanting to break up than on men wanting to break up.

The conclusions as follows do not mention the conclusion you suggested of treating women as property:

The uniquely gendered character of heterosexual marriage is consistent with the view that heterosexual marriage is a gender factory.

Most married women are happily married, and married couples are relatively stable.

The stalled gender revolution theory implicates a lack of progress of gender roles within heterosexual marriage as one cause of the stalled progress of women in society in general.

I would argue that gender roles are subjective and this in no way indicates that men are unilaterally expressing ownership over women. I suspect the reverse is just as likely to be the case.

Let's say for the sake of argument that I married Chanel Preston. Despite her accomplishments as an esthetician, she files a motion for divorce. Did she do that because of her gender role? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 
It would free a lot of bandwidth though!
Essentially double it for streaming, pirating and trolling forums

The amount of bandwidth humanity wastes on porn is ungodly indeed.
 
If we're unable or unwilling to examine porn empirically, we can still examine it cerebrally. There are two things to consider when satisfying a pleasure: is the satisfaction lawful and does it satisfy the pleasure. Porn to libido is like seawater to thirst - the more you have of it, the mightier your thirst grows, and since sex is a ferocious desire as it is, we ought to think twice about aggravating it.

A healthy society is part individualist, part collectivist. I'm willing to concede that porn can be a benign thing to many people that helps spice up their sex life, but that it can also be a malignant thing to a great many others is indisputable, whether by fueling addiction or sex crime. A good society would make the compromise of depriving those to whom porn is a benign thing of whatever value they derive from it in order to protect society from the flaws of those to whom porn is a malignant thing.
 
If we're unable or unwilling to examine porn empirically, we can still examine it cerebrally. There are two things to consider when satisfying a pleasure: is the satisfaction lawful and does it satisfy the pleasure. Porn to libido is like seawater to thirst - the more you have of it, the mightier your thirst grows, and since sex is a ferocious desire as it is, we ought to think twice about aggravating it.

A healthy society is part individualist, part collectivist. I'm willing to concede that porn can be a benign thing to many people that helps spice up their sex life, but that it can also be a malignant thing to a great many others is indisputable, whether by fueling addiction or sex crime. A good society would make the compromise of depriving those to whom porn is a benign thing of whatever value they derive from it in order to protect society from the flaws of those to whom porn is a malignant thing.

Sounds like the same argument that's used by people who want to ban violent video games. Of course, sex and violence are different, but I'm sure you all can appreciate the shock value criminals and pornstars share.
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Chanel Preston = Good

Sexual Assault = Bad

Chanel Preston in a pornographic video -/-> Sexual Assualt
 
What are you talking about? The website is completely secular. And I'm Catholic.

So is psychology today and they are a lot more reputable than the tee totalers that think every little thing is doom.

The idea that sex is damaging is the stupidest anti biological nonsense ever contrived. Libido is how our planet was populated.

I don't buy this porn/sex addiction because it's anti evolutionary.
 
Yeah, it's almost as if once one part of sexual morality was questioned, all of it was questioned.
It should all be questioned. If we don't question morality, it's just mindless obedience and mindless obedience is not only amoral but down right immoral.

God gave us a brain to think. Emperors gave us religions to control us.
 
How is letting the former husband have custody of the children not 'abuse of women'?

These are just silly word games that don't have anything of substance behind them except emotion.

Everyone gets their day in court. That's how our system works.

I'll need more than just general, unsupported claims to accept that divorce proceedings are 'abuse of men'.

We should make men and women stay together even if they don't love each other. Because that's ordered by the church and apparently blind obedience is morality to some people.
 
Water is bad for your health. People drown in that stuff.

Life is bad for your health. 100% of all people who have ever lived, have died.

Avoid life at all costs, and you'll be in perfect health forever.
 
Water is bad for your health. People drown in that stuff.

Life is bad for your health. 100% of all people who have ever lived, have died.

Avoid life at all costs, and you'll be in perfect health forever.
Interesting facts I discovered, the state with the highest per capita consumers of adult entertainment is also the state signing regulatory bills. Interestingly that state is Utah. Home if one of the most conservative churches. Second to that is Mississippi.
 
I do think porn has harmed modern society and sexuality for several reasons.

First --- the porn I have viewed out of curiosity is NOT lovemaking or anything that would be sensual and beautiful and satisfying. it is just people as contortionists and and fake orgasms and men roughly ejaculating.

Next bodies are so surgically manipulated and hair dyed and waxed and men on viagra and women with artificial enhancements it is disgusting.

Children who have never been in a sexual relationship will have distorted views as they develop.

Humans both men and women could have doubts of their bodies as those depicted are so artificial (both men and women) that most would not feel they could attain such bizarre shapes and sizes.

I have seen thousands of nude bodies (medical sector) and when trying to watch what is online once to see what is there - it disgusted me and I am not a prude.

I think it could create addiction in some people and they forego real loving sensual beautiful lovemaking to watch such and later feel empty and unfulfilled.

I do not think because some has watched online porn or occasional will be especially harmful to a healthy individual yet on overall society I think it has been harmful (especially in younger humans who are developing their sexual identity or had not experienced a healthy relationship.

I think it might create a brain energy where people are seen as objects to relieve themselves as opposed to being beautiful connected humans with a sensual relationship with someone they love.

I have amale friend that might have been harmed by such as he has very odd views when he starts revealing what is in his mind.
 
I agree that porn is harmful to consumers' health. But so are sugary drinks and cocaine, and I support every adult person's natural human right to enjoy them.
 
So,do you agree with him that it's because marriage is oppressive to women, because it was instituted from a society that viewed wives as property?

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I'd be hard-pressed to think of a more futile pursuit than dissuading people from porn; at this stage, society might collapse if we were to ban it.

Society will collapse if we continue to do nothing about it.
 
If porn causes ED, it's for the same reason that someone leaving a buffet might turn down a cracker that a starving person would love to eat. I don't know that reality can ever compete on equal footing with fantasy. The point being, it's good for men to stay a bit hungry and not just gorge themselves on fantasy. Real women might not be able to compete visually with airbrushed goddesses online but, on the other hand, real skin feels way better than a keyboard. On the other hand, you don't have to snuggle with your computer or take it out to breakfast when you're done.
 
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