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The church will never marry LGBT people, just as they're refuse to marry people who are divorced (wink, nudge..... write a fat check) or who won't convert, so this is as good as it will ever be. A state issued marriage license is a civil union that applies to bother heterosexual and LGBT.This is being proposed as an alternative to marriage, but its a big step forward for the Catholic church.Pope endorses civil union laws for same-sex couples | CNN
Pope Francis has declared support for civil unions for same-sex couples for the first time, according to the Catholic News Agency.
I'm not sure about Catholics, but Protestant faiths have always said 'hate the sin, not the sinner' and have not endorsed denying gay kids ...or others...love.
It's a big step about a decade behind the rest of the world. The idea that there needs to be an alternatives to marriage and that this alternative is lesser than marriage seems to be his way of trying to wiggle around the issue.This is being proposed as an alternative to marriage, but its a big step forward for the Catholic church.Pope endorses civil union laws for same-sex couples | CNN
Pope Francis has declared support for civil unions for same-sex couples for the first time, according to the Catholic News Agency.
No it won't. If he's not sitting on the throne when he says it it isn't doctrine.
Some Catholics go thru all kinds of contortions and excuses to justify the most extremist of their doctrines. Like just declaring those that dont adhere are "not real Catholics." Like the pedo priests and those that covered it up 'arent real Catholics,' that using birth control means 'you're not a real Catholic,' like inventing the entire role of a Pope from nothing and declaring him "God's Messenger on Earth,' like then inventing other crap so that if they dont like what he says, they can deny his words too...
Good luck finding that in the Bible.
Basically what he is doing is recognizing that civil marriage and religious marriage are not the same. You can get married before the church and not be married before the state. Likewise, you can be married before the state, and not be married before the church. Neither is an alternative to the other. What labels they use is also irrelevant, because calling it a marriage or a union it is still the same thing. Civil marriage exists independent of religious marriage, especially since a marriage under one religion exists independent of marriage under a different religion.This is being proposed as an alternative to marriage, but its a big step forward for the Catholic church.Pope endorses civil union laws for same-sex couples | CNN
Pope Francis has declared support for civil unions for same-sex couples for the first time, according to the Catholic News Agency.
This is being proposed as an alternative to marriage, but its a big step forward for the Catholic church.Pope endorses civil union laws for same-sex couples | CNN
Pope Francis has declared support for civil unions for same-sex couples for the first time, according to the Catholic News Agency.
How is he ignoring the Bible? Does the Bible say to force those outside its religion to follow it's morals?
One can condemn a sin while still allowing for the legal ability of others to commit said sin. It can be argued that without the legal ability to commit a sin, then one is not choosing to abstain from it for spiritual reasons, but for earthly ones, rendering the lack of sin moot. Furthermore, Jesus himself allowed for people to follow their own ways and never called for anyone to condemn a person's legal ability to do something.
I'd like to know just does it affect anyone else that two consenting adults are married? Do these people walk around and demand to see the hands of any couple to inspect them for rings?
So? No one's forcing gay Christians to marry.
That is a religious idea that cannot be enforced by the state as secular law unless you are willing to allow the state to force you to equally obey the dogma of every other religion due to the fact that all religions are to be treated as equals because of the 1st Amendment. Hindu cops arresting people eating beef. Muslim cops arresting people drinking alcohol and eating pork. Hasidic Jewish cops arresting every in cars on Friday night and Saturday because of their Sabbath. Buddhist cops arresting everyone eating meat, Christian scientist cops arresting people at the hospital or pharmacy, and pagan cops arresting anyone who doesn't obey the 8 Sabbats, Old order Amish cops arresting people in cars, or with electricity in their homes, and just a few of the more obvious religious rules that you would be forced to obey. Humanist cops arresting anyone at church/mosque/ holy places or those who are praying or with religious symbols. Satanist cops would be loads of laughs.
