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Polls show majority of Republicans mistakenly think the 2020 election wasn't legitimate

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Polls show majority of Republicans mistakenly think the 2020 election wasn't legitimate

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4/10/21
A new Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that 55% of Republicans falsely believe Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election was the result of illegal voting or rigging. Additionally, 60% of Republicans incorrectly agree that the election was stolen from Republican Donald Trump. These polls are the latest to indicate that Republicans mistakenly think that the 2020 election wasn't legitimate, when it clearly was. Republicans have been pushing legislation at the state level to make voting at least somewhat more difficult than it was for the 2020 election. This has come in the wake of polls showing many Republicans doubt the election result. It is unclear what effect this legislation will ultimately have on future election outcomes. What is perfectly clear, however, is that Republicans' lack of faith in our current election infrastructure is a direct result of Trump's historic efforts to undermine the legitimacy of the 2020 results. After Trump left the White House in January, Monmouth University asked Americans whether they thought the 2020 election was conducted fairly and confidently. Overall, most (66%) were confident it was. But the lion's share of Republicans (65%) disagreed and said they were not confident at all the election was conducted fairly and accurately, which is consistent with the Ipsos polling spoken about above. This 65% is truly an anomaly in recent times.

Republicans' doubts come despite a clear margin for Biden in the swing states that made the difference. Trump would have had to have won at least three states he lost by more than 10,000 votes (one he lost by more than 20,000) to merely keep Biden from reaching 270 electoral votes. Trump's false allegations have certainly shifted the way Republicans think about who should be able to vote. Today, a mere 28% of Republicans say everything should be done to make it easy for citizens to vote. Democrats, by comparison, have barely moved on the question with 85% arguing voting should be made as easy as possible. The only thing that has really changed between 2018 and 2021 was the 2020 election. It should be noted that Republicans are in the minority on this issue. Most Americans (59%) say everything should be done to make things as easy as possible for citizens to vote.


The Republican BIG LIE voting scheme works like this:

• Trump loses the 2020 election by over 7 million votes. No mass voting fraud is found by state voting officials, 60 courts, or Trumps own Department of Justice.

• Nevertheless, Trump tells the BIG LIE that the 2020 election was stolen from him. The terrified Republican Party goes along with Trumps BIG LIE.

• Trump and the Republicans (and FOX/OANN/Newsmax/Breitbart) continue to tell the BIG LIE and amplify it to Trump supporters.

• Now that they have the Republican base believing the BIG LIE, Republican legislatures across the country begin writing new laws to "protect the voting process".

• Rather than "protect the voting process", the new Republican voting laws actually restrict/suppress the voting process, especially among minorities and people of color.

• Rather than admit to what they are actually engaged in, Republican's double-down on the BIG LIE. Now, even Big Business is calling them out for their new anti-American voting laws.
 
Many of them joined the cult of a reality tv show host who could barely speak at an adult level. Of course they still believe his lies.
 
It's sad how widespread the Trump Cult became and how few of them want to acknowledge reality and reason.
 
Hopefully it leads to fewer of them voting in the future.
 
You say, "BIG LIE", but is that what Republicans are basing their opinion on? Anyone following AZ would say "no".
 
You say, "BIG LIE", but is that what Republicans are basing their opinion on? Anyone following AZ would say "no".

I'm sorry if Republicans believe nonsense because their political and media leaders relentlessly lie to them for personal gain. Perhaps they should choose different people to vote for and watch/listen to. It's not our job to make them change. And honestly, if half of Republicans want to believe all elections are fraudulent and it makes a few less of them want to vote....great! Perhaps we will be less burdened by their stupidity and hate.
 
I'm sorry if Republicans believe nonsense because their political and media leaders relentlessly lie to them for personal gain. Perhaps they should choose different people to vote for and watch/listen to. It's not our job to make them change. And honestly, if half of Republicans want to believe all elections are fraudulent and it makes a few less of them want to vote....great! Perhaps we will be less burdened by their stupidity and hate.
Have you been reading about AZ? Do you know the goings on with audits in Maricopa?
I mean, you want to smear without any facts.
 
Have you been reading about AZ? Do you know the goings on with audits in Maricopa?
I mean, you want to smear without any facts.

Yeah, I read that the Republican Senate hired on a company led by a chief purveyor of election fraud conspiracy nonsense to oversee the audit. Because I am sure what we need is yet another recount of the votes. If you all perform them enough times with increasingly partisan hacks running them, maybe eventually you will get the results you are desperately looking for.
 
The forces of the cult are strong with Trumpism.
 
Polls show majority of Republicans mistakenly think the 2020 election wasn't legitimate

210322174406-01-georgia-voting-lines-2020-super-tease.jpg




The Republican BIG LIE voting scheme works like this:

• Trump loses the 2020 election by over 7 million votes. No mass voting fraud is found by state voting officials, 60 courts, or Trumps own Department of Justice.

• Nevertheless, Trump tells the BIG LIE that the 2020 election was stolen from him. The terrified Republican Party goes along with Trumps BIG LIE.

• Trump and the Republicans (and FOX/OANN/Newsmax/Breitbart) continue to tell the BIG LIE and amplify it to Trump supporters.

• Now that they have the Republican base believing the BIG LIE, Republican legislatures across the country begin writing new laws to "protect the voting process".

• Rather than "protect the voting process", the new Republican voting laws actually restrict/suppress the voting process, especially among minorities and people of color.

• Rather than admit to what they are actually engaged in, Republican's double-down on the BIG LIE. Now, even Big Business is calling them out for their new anti-American voting laws.
You mean after four years of the left saying that the 2016 election wasn't legitimate?
 
The title should not read "mistakenly think". They do not actually think the election was stolen. They know it's a big fat lie.

They don't care. It's Trumpism. The ugliness is the point.
 
well unfortunately we will never know without more investigating...
 
You mean after four years of the left saying that the 2016 election wasn't legitimate?

On the one hand we've got: Conceding the election and facilitating a smooth, peaceful transition of power and then, afterwards, using the fact of foreign interference as peaceful political rhetoric (without, for the most part, denying the legitimacy of the votes regardless of the influences on them) partly in 'payback' for the genuinely new low of Trump's/Republican's birther conspiracy theory wholesale denying Obama's legitimacy and even right to be president based on pure racism.

Then we've got Trump, who despite winning in 2016 claimed massive fraud without a shred of evidence (because he didn't get as many votes as Obama) and claimed there would be massive fraud long before the 2020 election (unless he won) obviously again without evidence, refused to commit to a peaceful transition of power, floated the idea of using military force to remain in the White House, incited insurrection and continues to lie through his teeth and undermine Americans' faith in their most important institutions and values at every opportunity his adoring fans permit him.

Not much of an equivalency there. And the particular irony is that previously a major staple of Republican rhetoric - particularly in the lead-up to the 2020 election - was that "we are not a democracy," that the Constitution says nothing about counting popular votes (which it doesn't) but now suddenly it's all about the supposed importance of the 'legitimate' votes rather than the states' appointed electors as the previously-convenient talking points would've had you believe.
 
You mean after four years of the left saying that the 2016 election wasn't legitimate?

What are you talking about? The election itself was fine. It was the Russian interference in the election that Trump’s own intelligence chiefs were worried about. Are you questioning that too now?
 
Polls show majority of Republicans mistakenly think the 2020 election wasn't legitimate

210322174406-01-georgia-voting-lines-2020-super-tease.jpg




The Republican BIG LIE voting scheme works like this:

• Trump loses the 2020 election by over 7 million votes. No mass voting fraud is found by state voting officials, 60 courts, or Trumps own Department of Justice.

• Nevertheless, Trump tells the BIG LIE that the 2020 election was stolen from him. The terrified Republican Party goes along with Trumps BIG LIE.

• Trump and the Republicans (and FOX/OANN/Newsmax/Breitbart) continue to tell the BIG LIE and amplify it to Trump supporters.

• Now that they have the Republican base believing the BIG LIE, Republican legislatures across the country begin writing new laws to "protect the voting process".

• Rather than "protect the voting process", the new Republican voting laws actually restrict/suppress the voting process, especially among minorities and people of color.

• Rather than admit to what they are actually engaged in, Republican's double-down on the BIG LIE. Now, even Big Business is calling them out for their new anti-American voting laws.


Its really this simple . . .

if you dont have 100% faith in elections security and would like to see it be better . .thats fine
if you think some shadiness went on here and there . . thats fine

if you think the election was stolen from Trump using mass voter fraud you are one batshit insane, tinfoil hat, Trumptard nutter! LOL


I don't know ANYBODY in real life that clings to this delusional lie anymore. . and if they do they dont admit it because they are embarrassed and should be.
 
This could have all been done if the powers that be had actually looked at the different examples of voter fraud that Trump came out with at the time they happened. The fact is, no true forensic audit has been done to tell if the election was legitimate or not. There have been recounts, but the allegations made by the Trump campaign have not been investigated yet. The Democrats took four years of a shame Russia Collusion investigation to find not proof of wrongdoing. No similar investigation has taken place to look into voter fraud in this last election.

I will stand by the idea that the election was illegitimate until I get a fair and impartial investigation.
 
This could have all been done if the powers that be had actually looked at the different examples of voter fraud that Trump came out with at the time they happened. The fact is, no true forensic audit has been done to tell if the election was legitimate or not. There have been recounts, but the allegations made by the Trump campaign have not been investigated yet. The Democrats took four years of a shame Russia Collusion investigation to find not proof of wrongdoing. No similar investigation has taken place to look into voter fraud in this last election.

I will stand by the idea that the election was illegitimate until I get a fair and impartial investigation.
You do that. 😂
 
Who's we? 😂
every reasonable person who understand that complex systems sometimes need to be thoroughly checked for accuracy and security, and understand the voting systems are some of the most important.
 
every reasonable person who understand that complex systems sometimes need to be thoroughly checked for accuracy and security, and understand the voting systems are some of the most important.

Bit of a shame all these Republican nutters didn't think to shore up the supposed holes in the process beforehand, eh? Too busy declaring their intention to cry fraud and gutting the Post Office, I suppose.
 
• Trump and the Republicans (and FOX/OANN/Newsmax/Breitbart) continue to tell the BIG LIE and amplify it to Trump supporters.

You forgot the Time magazine article I'm sure we've all seen about "The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign. . . . There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes . . . . a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information." Misleading, emotive language deliberating stoking and 'confirming' all the worst fears of the conspiracy theorists, in the name of money-grubbing sensationalism and the page views they knew it'd generate.
 
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