Poll: Young adults support new efforts to curb gun violence

[MickeyW]

LaShun Roy supports a ban on semi-automatic weapons and more comprehensive background checks. But the 21-year-old gun owner from rural Texas doesn't consider gun-control measures a top priority in this year's elections.

For Keionna Cottrell, a 24-year-old who lives on Chicago's South Side and whose brother was shot and killed this year in another Illinois city, few things are more important than limiting access to guns.

"So many people are dying here because there is no control of the weapons out on our streets," said Cottrell. "Young men ... have real military guns and they're not scared to use them."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-young-adults-support-efforts-063513491.html


From the AP which is leftist... but the propaganda appears to be working.

The highlighted is the real problem, because in smaller cities and rual America, we aren't having these problems, and the citizens own a lot of weapons.



Sent from the bore of my smoking hot .44, the original point and click interface.

 

[TurtleDude]

LaShun Roy supports a ban on semi-automatic weapons and more comprehensive background checks. But the 21-year-old gun owner from rural Texas doesn't consider gun-control measures a top priority in this year's elections.

For Keionna Cottrell, a 24-year-old who lives on Chicago's South Side and whose brother was shot and killed this year in another Illinois city, few things are more important than limiting access to guns.

"So many people are dying here because there is no control of the weapons out on our streets," said Cottrell. "Young men ... have real military guns and they're not scared to use them."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-young-adults-support-efforts-063513491.html


From the AP which is leftist... but the propaganda appears to be working.

Sent from the bore of my smoking hot .44, the original point and click interface.

people like that don't vote on gun issues.

 

[MickeyW]

people like that don't vote on gun issues.

Good point.

 

[TurtleDude]

Good point.

In 94 the bannerrhoids said most people supported the idiotic clinton gun ban. Maybe they did but they sure didn't vote that way as the Democrat Bannerrhoids took a huge beating in the midterm elections

 

[ttwtt78640]

The idea that criminals willing to kill would be deterred simply by making certain guns a bit harder to come by legally makes no sense. The problem is mostly street gang violence aided by a strict no snitch mentality.

 

[TurtleDude]

The idea that criminals willing to kill would be deterred simply by making certain guns a bit harder to come by legally makes no sense. The problem is mostly street gang violence aided by a strict no snitch mentality.

we gun owners often try to debate Bannerrhoids on crime control issues and the average sheep will choose "public safety" over our rights because that is the choice sheep who don't think will make. SO we have to constantly stress that bannerrhoids really don't push crime control measures but rather conservative-harassment measures

 

[blaxshep]

It shouldn't be a surprise, the kids these days go to liberal schools where they are taught the constitution is just an out of date piece of trash written by evil white slave owners.

 

[haymarket]

It shouldn't be a surprise, the kids these days go to liberal schools where they are taught the constitution is just an out of date piece of trash written by evil white slave owners.

So white slave owners did NOT help write the US Constitution over 225 years ago?

 

[BretJ]

So white slave owners did NOT help write the US Constitution over 225 years ago?

That makes them automatically evil? I thought you said society determines what was OK. Society said it was ok back then.

 

[MickeyW]

In 94 the bannerrhoids said most people supported the idiotic clinton gun ban. Maybe they did but they sure didn't vote that way as the Democrat Bannerrhoids took a huge beating in the midterm elections

And I was out there in the trenches lobbying everyone I could find to get the truth out.

we gun owners often try to debate Bannerrhoids on crime control issues and the average sheep will choose "public safety" over our rights because that is the choice sheep who don't think will make. SO we have to constantly stress that bannerrhoids really don't push crime control measures but rather conservative-harassment measures

Bingo!

It shouldn't be a surprise, the kids these days go to liberal schools where they are taught the constitution is just an out of date piece of trash written by evil white slave owners.

Exactly.

So white slave owners did NOT help write the US Constitution over 225 years ago?

Sure they did, who else was capable? Owning slaves wasn't illegal back then.....nor evil.

That makes them automatically evil? I thought you said society determines what was OK. Society said it was ok back then.

I think HM just contradicted himself here.

 

[Grand Mal]

It shouldn't be a surprise, the kids these days go to liberal schools where they are taught the constitution is just an out of date piece of trash written by evil white slave owners.

The constitution was written by liberals. Conservatives were booking passage to Nova Scotia.
And your assertion that kids are taught that the constitution is an out of date piece of trash is absolute bilge.

 

[jet57]

That makes them automatically evil? I thought you said society determines what was OK. Society said it was ok back then.

No, what it does is show that the constitution and money politics have proven to cancel out constitutional equality.

 

[Fearandloathing]

It shouldn't be a surprise, the kids these days go to liberal schools where they are taught the constitution is just an out of date piece of trash written by evil white slave owners.

Actually it isn't a surprise at all as societies grow they by nature become more mature.

The desire to curb gun violence is not a right-left debate, it is a debate between the sane and the totally nuts. Seriously, who the **** would support MORE gun violence.

What also isn't a surprise is that red necks automatically see a call for a curb of gun violence as taking away a God given right. That's what's antiquated in the equation, the stupidity of allowing a virtual slaughter for the sake of a mis-understood 250 year old document.

 

[jet57]

The constitution was written by liberals. Conservatives were booking passage to Nova Scotia.
And your assertion that kids are taught that the constitution is an out of date piece of trash is absolute bilge.

Interesting: cons to Nova Scotia?

 

[TurtleDude]

The constitution was written by liberals. Conservatives were booking passage to Nova Scotia.
And your assertion that kids are taught that the constitution is an out of date piece of trash is absolute bilge.

Uh those "liberals" are nothing like the reactionary parasitic statists who claim to be liberals today.

 

[TurtleDude]

Actually it isn't a surprise at all as societies grow they by nature become more mature.

The desire to curb gun violence is not a right-left debate, it is a debate between the sane and the totally nuts. Seriously, who the **** would support MORE gun violence.

What also isn't a surprise is that red necks automatically see a call for a curb of gun violence as taking away a God given right. That's what's antiquated in the equation, the stupidity of allowing a virtual slaughter for the sake of a mis-understood 250 year old document.

what is the real joke is those who claim that more laws restricting honest gun owners will somehow deter criminals. Its already highly illegal for a felon, a person under indictment, etc to even touch a gun. Magazine limits, waiting periods, "assault weapon bans" or registration ONLY change the rules for law abiding people. so your rant is just plain stupid

 

[Grand Mal]

Interesting: cons to Nova Scotia?

They bailed on the revolution. Tories, remember? Today the Conservative Party in Canada is still called the Tories, and the Liberal Party is the Whigs. Britain, too, and probably everywhere else in the world that has a Parliamentary system and a Conservative Party and Liberal Party.

 

[Grand Mal]

Uh those "liberals" are nothing like the reactionary parasitic statists who claim to be liberals today.

It's not just them that claim they're liberals, is it. Most conservatives are just as confused.
The word liberal seems to mean something different to most Americans than it does everywhere else in the world. I blame your two-party system. Progressives and socialists have no home, and get jungled up with liberals to the point where many people don't know the difference anymore.

 

[jet57]

They bailed on the revolution. Tories, remember? Today the Conservative Party in Canada is still called the Tories, and the Liberal Party is the Whigs. Britain, too, and probably everywhere else in the world that has a Parliamentary system and a Conservative Party and Liberal Party.

Yeah yeah, I thought you were talking about earlier migrations: slaves went there to make a go of it too. And ya'know, you can't convince American conservatives that the American founders were the flaming liberal of their day: they have to say "classical liberals"... in those times, there were no classical liberals. The American founders were young revolutionary insurgents on par with Lenin!

 

[haymarket]

That makes them automatically evil? I thought you said society determines what was OK. Society said it was ok back then.

Would you say owning slaves is evil?

 

[TurtleDude]

Yeah yeah, I thought you were talking about earlier migrations: slaves went there to make a go of it too. And ya'know, you can't convince American conservatives that the American founders were the flaming liberal of their day: they have to say "classical liberals"... in those times, there were no classical liberals. The American founders were young revolutionary insurgents on par with Lenin!

you are a gun banner who seeks to appease gun banning assholes in government. that is nothing like the founders who told gun confiscating monarchists to stuff their bans where the light don't shine

 

[Grand Mal]

Would you say owning slaves is evil?

The question isn't 'is', it's 'was'.
It's devious and dishonest to apply the standards of today, with our advantages of information and sophistication, to people hundreds of years ago. Obviously, men who were considered liberal and enlightened thought there was no evil in slavery at the time.
Of course, had you lived then, you would have straightened them out, shown them the evil of their ways.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

before everyone freaks out, this poll is an anomaly. the millenial generation has been consistently more supportive on gun rights then the public at large.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

The question isn't 'is', it's 'was'.
It's devious and dishonest to apply the standards of today, with our advantages of information and sophistication, to people hundreds of years ago. Obviously, men who were considered liberal and enlightened thought there was no evil in slavery at the time.
Of course, had you lived then, you would have straightened them out, shown them the evil of their ways.

Maybe so, but while I stop short of saying the founders were evil for owning slaves, it was not an uncontroversial opinion. there was an active movement to ban slavery in the original constitution draft, or at least not allow the south to count slave populations towards congress.

this however is irrelevant to the topic of the thread.

 

[BretJ]

Would you say owning slaves is evil?

In that day and age it was not. Are you saying right and wrong is or is not subjective? Make up your mind. Scientists of the day felt they were less than human and society believed them and rationalized it as acceptable. Kind of like abortion...but that's another forum.