Poll: Voter interest highest in decade (1 Viewer)

[Navy Pride]

This is not good news for Democrats.........A high turn out means that Moderates and Conservatives who are fed up with the President's fiscal policies will still turn out because they realize the importance of keeping Republicans in office...


http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/11/motivated.voters.ap/index.html

Poll: Voter interest highest in decade

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Politics is a water-cooler topic, a dinner-table subject, an issue to discuss after Sunday services, and this year the interest of American voters is at its highest level in more than a decade.

That renewed attention could translate into higher voter turnout on Nov. 7, according to an Associated Press-Pew poll.

Seventy percent say they are talking politics with family and friends, and 43 percent are debating the issues at work. Among churchgoers, 28 percent share their political

 

[aps]

This is not good news for Democrats.........A high turn out means that Moderates and Conservatives who are fed up with the President's fiscal policies will still turn out because they realize the importance of keeping Republicans in office...

You're right, since things are going so well and the majority of Americans think that we are headed in the wrong direction.

 

[Navy Pride]

You're right, since things are going so well and the majority of Americans think that we are headed in the wrong direction.

Yeah but according to a poll I saw yesterday 60% of all registered voters polled thought their congressman was doing a good job.......Mid term elections are usually local and incumbents are very hard to unseat.......Nothing proves that more then when scum like Kennedy, Kerry and Frank keep getting elected..........

 

[aps]

Yeah but according to a poll I saw yesterday 60% of all registered voters polled thought their congressman was doing a good job.......Mid term elections are usually local and incumbents are very hard to unseat.......Nothing proves that more then when scum like Kennedy, Kerry and Frank keep getting elected..........

You raise a valid point. I am seriously considering voting for Tom Davis (R) because I think he is doing a good job for those of us who live in his district.

 

[Alex]

This is not good news for Democrats.........A high turn out means that Moderates and Conservatives who are fed up with the President's fiscal policies will still turn out because they realize the importance of keeping Republicans in office...


http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/11/motivated.voters.ap/index.html

Poll: Voter interest highest in decade

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Politics is a water-cooler topic, a dinner-table subject, an issue to discuss after Sunday services, and this year the interest of American voters is at its highest level in more than a decade.

That renewed attention could translate into higher voter turnout on Nov. 7, according to an Associated Press-Pew poll.

Seventy percent say they are talking politics with family and friends, and 43 percent are debating the issues at work. Among churchgoers, 28 percent share their political

Where in this article do you see a problem for Democrats? I agree that Conservatives usually have a higher voter turnout, but Liberals are seriously energized to go vote in November. They know that this is their chance to make changes. If anything, the 70.0% of people talking politics with family and friends are talking Liberal and the 43.0% at work are doing the same. The polls show this and they are a good indicator of outcomes.

 

[Navy Pride]

You raise a valid point. I am seriously considering voting for Tom Davis (R) because I think he is doing a good job for those of us who live in his district.

You have to do those kind of things aps........Like I have said before I am and independent who usually votes republican becasue their political beliefs are closer to mine but every 4 years for the last 24 years I have voted for a democrat who is my congressman here in my district becasue he is stronh on defense.........I don't agree with him on social issues but they won't matter much if we lose this war on terror.....

 

[Navy Pride]

Where in this article do you see a problem for Democrats? I agree that Conservatives usually have a higher voter turnout, but Liberals are seriously energized to go vote in November. They know that this is their chance to make changes. If anything, the 70.0% of people talking politics with family and friends are talking Liberal and the 43.0% at work are doing the same. The polls show this and they are a good indicator of outcomes.

Yeah I heard the same thing in the 2004 presidential election and we all know what happened there don't we...........

 

[Hoot]

What bothers me about all this is..we have the mismangement of Katrina, the obvious mistake of invading Iraq, and it takes a Foley sexual scandal to galvanize voters?!

 

[Navy Pride]

What bothers me about all this is..we have the mismangement of Katrina, the obvious mistake of invading Iraq, and it takes a Foley sexual scandal to galvanize voters?!

If you think that the Foley issue is galvanizing voters you are in fairyland and in for a rude awakening........

Moderates and Conservatives will never allow left wing whackos like Pelosi and Reid to run Congress no matter how much they are pissed at Bush.....You can take that to the bank.........

 

[BWG]

70.0% of people talking politics with family and friends
43.0% at work are doing the same

How many are talking about the weather or football?...LOL
Americans are so wishy-washy, if it's raining election day, they aren't going to the polls.
You're right Alex, the cons may be in for a big surprise.
:lol:

 

[Navy Pride]

How many are talking about the weather or football?...LOL
Americans are so wishy-washy, if it's raining election day, they aren't going to the polls.
You're right Alex, the cons may be in for a big surprise.
:lol:

That is really your only hope but its not going to happen......No moderate or Conservative or anyone in their right mind wants to see Pelosi as the leader in the HOR........That in itself will bring out a record vote.............

 

[ALiberalModerate]

That is really your only hope but its not going to happen......No moderate or Conservative or anyone in their right mind wants to see Pelosi as the leader in the HOR........That in itself will bring out a record vote.............

Right now, polling shows Democrats narrowly taking the Senate, and picking up a minimum of 25 seats in the House. That of course could change by election day, but as it is, it would seem that the tide is very anti-Republican. You have to remember, Republicans have held the Senate for about 12 years out of the last 80 or so, and held the house for only the last 12 out of the last 50 years. Republicans, in their efforts to placate the social and religious right, have alienated the middle. You guys on the right have never won the battle of ideas. Consistently, the only national issue that Republican have had an advantage on when polled over the last 70 years is National Defense. Every other issue, Environment, Education, Energy, Social Security, Medicare, Jobs, even Taxes, all almost invariably when polled the majority of Americans almost consistently side with the moderate Democrat position. This has consistently been the case for 70 years.

The Republicans, for the last 12 years or so have won not because of their position on the majority of issues appealing to the majority of Americans, but rather because they were able to sufficiently motivate their base to eek out narrow majorities at the polls. The problem Republicans have now is that their efforts to motivate their religious right and socially conservative base is scaring moderates, and the one issue that they usually have, National Security, they don't even have an advantage on because most Americans believe the war in Iraq was a mistake.

So at this point, unless the Democrats do something really stupid in the next 3 weeks or so, which I certainly would not put past them, it looks as though the House will go to the Dems, the majority of the Governors will go to the Dems, and more and more it looks like the Senate will go to the Dems and if that happens, if the Republicans don't move away from the far right (and no offense, alienate guys like you ) they may well end up being the minority party for another 40 to 50 years once again.

 

[Navy Pride]

Right now, polling shows Democrats narrowly taking the Senate, and picking up a minimum of 25 seats in the House. That of course could change by election day, but as it is, it would seem that the tide is very anti-Republican. You have to remember, Republicans have held the Senate for about 12 years out of the last 80 or so, and held the house for only the last 12 out of the last 50 years. Republicans, in their efforts to placate the social and religious right, have alienated the middle. You guys on the right have never won the battle of ideas. Consistently, the only national issue that Republican have had an advantage on when polled over the last 70 years is National Defense. Every other issue, Environment, Education, Energy, Social Security, Medicare, Jobs, even Taxes, all almost invariably when polled the majority of Americans almost consistently side with the moderate Democrat position. This has consistently been the case for 70 years.

The Republicans, for the last 12 years or so have won not because of their position on the majority of issues appealing to the majority of Americans, but rather because they were able to sufficiently motivate their base to eek out narrow majorities at the polls. The problem Republicans have now is that their efforts to motivate their religious right and socially conservative base is scaring moderates, and the one issue that they usually have, National Security, they don't even have an advantage on because most Americans believe the war in Iraq was a mistake.

So at this point, unless the Democrats do something really stupid in the next 3 weeks or so, which I certainly would not put past them, it looks as though the House will go to the Dems, the majority of the Governors will go to the Dems, and more and more it looks like the Senate will go to the Dems and if that happens, if the Republicans don't move away from the far right (and no offense, alienate guys like you ) they may well end up being the minority party for another 40 to 50 years once again.

Like I said if you had a moderate to take over the HOR or the senate Conservatives and Moderates might stay home but with Pelosi and Reid the 2 most radical lefties in Congress they will hold their nose and get out to vote because they know if they lose it would be a total disaster for this country.............

These elections are local and I saw a poll on one of the news shows the other day that said that 60% of the people polled are satisfied with their own Congressman or Senator...........

I think the dems will pick up a few seats in the house and maybe Santorum's seat in the senate.........Incumbents are really hard to unseat and the democrats really have no plan except to criticize Bush...............They forget he is not running or just hate him so much they can't help themselves..................

In 1994 when the Republicans took over they unseated democrats that were in red states........This year dems have to try and unseat republicans that are in red states........Not and easy thing to do......

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Like I said if you had a moderate to take over the HOR or the senate Conservatives and Moderates might stay home but with Pelosi and Reid the 2 most radical lefties in Congress they will hold their nose and get out to vote because they know if they lose it would be a total disaster for this country.............

The term Moderate is a misnomer. Either one is well to the left of center, well to the right of center, or slightly left of center or slightly right of center. No one sits right in the middle. Roughly half of Americans are to the left of center, and half are to the right.

Your hardcore Republicans are not "moderates". Virtually everyone who self identifies themselves as a Republican is solidly right of center. That amounts to about 30% or so of population. They will get out and vote Republican no matter what. However, that is not a majority.

You then have another 12 to 15 percent who are the fundies. When they vote, they vote Republican. However, the current scandals, plus the revelations about how the Bush Administration sees them as nut jobs, is discouraging them from getting out and voting.

You then have that 5% or so that actually makes the difference whether Republicans win or lose, and that is those "Security Moms". Those are the ones that the Republicans have completely lost right now. That is your problem. That is why even in the red states, many Republican incumbents are in big trouble. I don't know what is going to happen in the next 3 weeks or so, but if the election were held tomorrow, the Republicans would loose the Senate, the House, and the majority of the Governors.

As to Democrats winning being a disaster. Total over-reacting. If the Dems win the only thing that will change is maybe environment policy, and more liberal legislation on social issues, other than that, pretty much like it is now.

 

[Navy Pride]

The term Moderate is a misnomer. Either one is well to the left of center, well to the right of center, or slightly left of center or slightly right of center. No one sits right in the middle. Roughly half of Americans are to the left of center, and half are to the right.

Your hardcore Republicans are not "moderates". Virtually everyone who self identifies themselves as a Republican is solidly right of center. That amounts to about 30% or so of population. They will get out and vote Republican no matter what. However, that is not a majority.

You then have another 12 to 15 percent who are the fundies. When they vote, they vote Republican. However, the current scandals, plus the revelations about how the Bush Administration sees them as nut jobs, is discouraging them from getting out and voting.

You then have that 5% or so that actually makes the difference whether Republicans win or lose, and that is those "Security Moms". Those are the ones that the Republicans have completely lost right now. That is your problem. That is why even in the red states, many Republican incumbents are in big trouble. I don't know what is going to happen in the next 3 weeks or so, but if the election were held tomorrow, the Republicans would loose the Senate, the House, and the majority of the Governors.

As to Democrats winning being a disaster. Total over-reacting. If the Dems win the only thing that will change is maybe environment policy, and more liberal legislation on social issues, other than that, pretty much like it is now.

If you are a true moderate then you have to have reservations about a far left people like Pelosi and Reid being the leaders in Congress.......

 

[ALiberalModerate]

If you are a true moderate then you have to have reservations about a far left people like Pelosi and Reid being the leaders in Congress.......

Are you telling me that the Republican leadership is made up of moderates? Pelosi is no further to the left than Hastert is to the Right, and by any reasonable measure, Reid is a moderate.

 

[Deegan]

Are you telling me that the Republican leadership is made up of moderates? Pelosi is no further to the left than Hastert is to the Right, and by any reasonable measure, Reid is a moderate.

So you answer his question with a question?

Well, do you have reservations about the far left?

 

[Navy Pride]

Are you telling me that the Republican leadership is made up of moderates? Pelosi is no further to the left than Hastert is to the Right, and by any reasonable measure, Reid is a moderate.

Come on MD, do you hear Hastert calling for cut and running in Iraq.......Do you hear Hastert bragging that he killed the Patriot Act? Do oyu hear Hastert saying he will cancel the Bush Tax cuts and raising taxes? Do you hear Hastert saying we are going to reinstitute the death tax?

 

[ALiberalModerate]

So you answer his question with a question?

Well, do you have reservations about the far left?

Would I want the far left, say people like communists or avowed socialists in power? No.

Is Reid a member of the Far Left? Of course not.

According to the non-partisan OnTheIssues.Com, a site that graphs ideology as measured by candidate official positions and voting records, Harry Reid, as shown here: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Harry_Reid.htm, is actually considerably less liberal than Bill Frist is conservative, as shown here: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Bill_Frist.htm.

Is Pelosi a member of the Far Left? Of course not.

Once again, according to the non-partisan OnTheIssues.Com, Nancy Pelosi, as shown here: http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Nancy_Pelosi.htm, is more liberal than Reid, but is actually no further to the left than Bill Frist is to the Right, and also is no further to the left than Dennis Hastert is to the Right: http://www.ontheissues.org/IL/Denny_Hastert.htm

Moreover, when you compare Pelosi to the Crook Delay, http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Tom_DeLay.htm, she looks like a centrist.

The problem you guys have, especially NP, is that your ideology is so far outside of the mainstream, that you don't even know where the center is.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Come on MD, do you hear Hastert calling for cut and running in Iraq.......Do you hear Hastert bragging that he killed the Patriot Act? Do oyu hear Hastert saying he will cancel the Bush Tax cuts and raising taxes? Do you hear Hastert saying we are going to reinstitute the death tax?

Timetable to get out of Iraq: Supported by the Majority of Americans.

Increase taxes on the top bracket to 1990s levels: Supported by the vast Majority of Americans.

Not Abolishing the Estate Tax, a tax which only affects the richest families in America: Supported by the vast Majority of Americans.

All three of those issues that you are railing against are the mainstream American position. NP, you don't have a clue.

 

[Deegan]

Would I want the far left, say people like communists or avowed socialists in power? No.

Is Reid a member of the Far Left? Of course not.

According to the non-partisan OnTheIssues.Com, a site that graphs ideology as measured by candidate official positions and voting records, Harry Reid, as shown here: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Harry_Reid.htm, is actually considerably less liberal than Bill Frist is conservative, as shown here: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Bill_Frist.htm.

Is Pelosi a member of the Far Left? Of course not.

Once again, according to the non-partisan OnTheIssues.Com, Nancy Pelosi, as shown here: http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Nancy_Pelosi.htm, is more liberal than Reid, but is actually no further to the left than Bill Frist is to the Right, and also is no further to the left than Dennis Hastert is to the Right: http://www.ontheissues.org/IL/Denny_Hastert.htm

Moreover, when you compare Pelosi to the Crook Delay, http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Tom_DeLay.htm, she looks like a centrist.

The problem you guys have, especially NP, is that your ideology is so far outside of the mainstream, that you don't even know where the center is.

It's a simple question, do you have any reservations about the far left, and what they would like to do if they were to gain the majority, I'll take this as a no. I am about as main stream as they come, and so is my ideology, so I have no idea why you would suggest such a thing about me, or navy for that matter. It is indeed the far left, and right that are out of the mainstream, and I am neither of those as well.:shock:

 

[ALiberalModerate]

It's a simple question, do you have any reservations about the far left, and what they would like to do if they were to gain the majority, I'll take this as a no. I am about as main stream as they come, and so is my ideology, so I have no idea why you would suggest such a thing about me, or navy for that matter. It is indeed the far left, and right that are out of the mainstream, and I am neither of those as well.:shock:

I answered your question. Yes, if someone was a member of the far left, then I would have reservations about supporting them. However, when one looks at the voting records of Reid, he is closer to the center than Frist is. When one looks at the voting records of Pelosi, she is no further to left than Hastert is to the right, and she is much closer to the center than Delay was.

Therefore, I am not sure what the premise is of your question is.

Why would you support someone like Frist, when his voting record is further to the right than Reids is to the left?

Moreover, NP is a rabid right winger, well outside of the mainstream, and anyone who would call someone like Reid a member of the far left, is either grossly missinformed, or a total right wing nut job.

If you are so mainstream, then why would you self identify yourself as "very-conservative"?

 

[Deegan]

It really does depend on my mood, and if I put that in when I signed on, it may not be the way I feel today, or tomorrow. I think that conservative means different things, to different people, you obviously think it means something I don't, because I am certainly a mainstream American.

R.J. White once put it this way:

"To put conservatism in a bottle with a label is like trying to liquefy the atmosphere … The difficulty arises from the nature of the thing. For conservatism is less a political doctrine than a habit of mind, a mode of feeling, a way of living."

Just got this from a search, and it speaks volumes about how I view most labels, even though I am as guilty of anyone of doing the very same thing at times.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

It really does depend on my mood, and if I put that in when I signed on, it may not be the way I feel today, or tomorrow. I think that conservative means different things, to different people, you obviously think it means something I don't, because I am certainly a mainstream American.

R.J. White once put it this way:

"To put conservatism in a bottle with a label is like trying to liquefy the atmosphere … The difficulty arises from the nature of the thing. For conservatism is less a political doctrine than a habit of mind, a mode of feeling, a way of living."

Just got this from a search, and it speaks volumes about how I view most labels, even though I am as guilty of anyone of doing the very same thing at times.

My point is that most people are not so partisan. If someone is a partisan Republican, and they look at the Dems taking power again, the first thing out of their mouth is "Far Leftist". However, most people just look at the actual position of the candidates and how those positions relate to their own personal feelings about the issues they care about. In that case, when you look at their actual voting records, Pelosi is no further to the left than Hastert is to the Right, and Reid is much closer to the center than Frist is. Thus, if anything, going by official positions and voting records, if the Democrats were to win the Senate and the House, the net result would be a House and Senate that while certainly left leaning, would be closer to the center than it is now.

The Democratic Party is and has been for 70 years a center left party. The Republican Party used to be a center right party. Over the last 20 years it has became more of a solidly conservative party, especially on social issues. Case in point, 40 years ago Barry Goldwater represented the far right of the Republican Party, today he would be one of the most Liberal Republicans in Congress. If FDR were around today, he would be more liberal than Ted Kennedy. Some of you guys are carrying on like the Communist Party may well take control of congress. That is just not the case, the Democratic Party is not a far left party.

 

[Deegan]

My point is that most people are not so partisan. If someone is a partisan Republican, and they look at the Dems taking power again, the first thing out of their mouth is "Far Leftist". However, most people just look at the actual position of the candidates and how those positions relate to their own personal feelings about the issues they care about. In that case, when you look at their actual voting records, Pelosi is no further to the left than Hastert is to the Right, and Reid is much closer to the center than Frist is. Thus, if anything, going by official positions and voting records, if the Democrats were to win the Senate and the House, the net result would be a House and Senate that while certainly left leaning, would be closer to the center than it is now.

The Democratic Party is and has been for 70 years a center left party. The Republican Party used to be a center right party. Over the last 20 years it has became more of a solidly conservative party, especially on social issues. Case in point, 40 years ago Barry Goldwater represented the far right of the Republican Party, today he would be one of the most Liberal Republicans in Congress. If FDR were around today, he would be more liberal than Ted Kennedy. Some of you guys are carrying on like the Communist Party may well take control of congress. That is just not the case, the Democratic Party is not a far left party.

I hope you're right, but I just fear the lack of values that seems to be creeping in to the far left, and thus in to your party. When Howard Dean talks about how he hates Republicans, and he is suppose to represent your party, you have to be honest, can you blame us for the concern? I don't see any of the far rights agendas being realized, save for the faith based initiative, which is a good thing IMO, we are losing everyday, and that's with power in all branches, so I don't understand the histrionics on the left.