Poll: Support for Iraq war at all-time low (1 Viewer)

[KidRocks]

Indeed, it seems like many Republicans along with the Bush administration are in their last throes.








http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/16/iraq.poll/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A poll conducted for CNN over the weekend suggests support among Americans for the war in Iraq is dwindling to an all-time low. Just 34 percent of those polled say they support the war, while 64 percent say they oppose it.

Women led the opposition, with seven in 10 saying they oppose the war. Twenty-eight percent say they support it, which is the lowest support among women in any CNN poll taken since the invasion more than three years ago.

Support among men is stronger, with 40 percent supporting the conflict and 58 percent opposed to it.

This comes as the nation's top general acknowledged the overall strategy in Iraq is under review. Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN that military plans, including the linchpin of U.S. exit strategy -- reliance on Iraqi forces to take up the fight -- is being reviewed. (Full story)

Troop withdrawal is a key condition for ending the insurgency, according to one of Iraq's most visible insurgent groups. A man believed to be the spokesman for the Islamic Army of Iraq issued a videotaped message Sunday reiterating interest in negotiating with U.S. forces... (Full story)

 

[Mr.Clover]

Yea, tell us something we don't know

 

[KidRocks]

Yea, tell us something we don't know

How about that the idiot Democrats are still very capable of blowing this gift horse in the mouth?

I watched Dean last night on some program and cringed at the thought of him saying something stupid, same with Kerry!

 

[CurrentAffairs]

How about that the idiot Democrats are still very capable of blowing this gift horse in the mouth?

I watched Dean last night on some program and cringed at the thought of him saying something stupid, same with Kerry!

With weakening support, terrorists get enboldened and more Americans die. Tell us why this is a "gift", kidrock.

 

[Mr.Clover]

Because it helps the democrat party. They'd rather hear a bunch of american troops die in Iraq so that their party can gain support than hear something good happen in Iraq, since it helps the republicans then.

 

[KidRocks]

With weakening support, terrorists get enboldened and more Americans die. Tell us why this is a "gift", kidrock.

Nice try with obvious 'scare tactic statement' in the form of an innocent question. I can only reiterate that with that leading question, you sir do indeed have a devious-little mind.


Now, do you want to rephrase your obviously obscene leading question intelligently and without resorting to insulting my intelligence?

When debating me, please leave your dittohead-mentality at the doorstep, thanks. :2wave:

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Nice try with obvious 'scare tactic statement' in the form of an innocent question. I can only reiterate that with that leading question, you sir do indeed have a devious mind.


Now, do you want to rephrase your obviously obscene leading question intelligently and without resorting to insulting my intelligence?

When debating me, please leave your dittohead-mentality at the doorstep, thanks. :2wave:

I know it stings, kidrock. You've been caught holding political power above the safety of our troops. But you said it is a gift. Tell us why you think this is a gift?

 

[Mr.Clover]

"Now, do you want to rephrase your obviously obscene leading question intelligently and without resorting to insulting my intelligence?"

What intelligence is there to insult?

 

[Captain America]

What intelligence is there to insult?

Mr. Clover, do you consider you political leanings to be left or right of center?


Disregard. This thread has already been labeled tainted with the Prick Point going to Kidrocks. Follow-up posts cannot be considered for points.

Carry on.

 

[KidRocks]

I know it stings, kidrock. You've been caught holding political power above the safety of our troops. But you said it is a gift. Tell us why you think this is a gift?

:2wave: :roll:

 

[KidRocks]

Because it helps the democrat party. They'd rather hear a bunch of american troops die in Iraq so that their party can gain support than hear something good happen in Iraq, since it helps the republicans then.

Sheesh, another devious little mind at work! :roll:

 

[Mr.Clover]

Mr. Clover, do you consider you political leanings to be left or right of center?

I consider myself to be center-right. The conservatives do uphold most of my beliefs, but I am tired of congressman like foley and Ney etc. and I want some change. (and no, I do not believe the dems will give me that.)

 

[Captain America]

Thank you for your reply.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

With weakening support, terrorists get enboldened and more Americans die. Tell us why this is a "gift", kidrock.

The terrorist got emboldened the day we went into Iraq. I think KidRock was wrong to refer to it as a gift, but you can't blame the American People for not continuing to support bad policy and the guys who got use into this mess in the first place.

 

[Mr.Clover]

Iraq is the most successful war in U.S. History. Please explain how that its bad policy.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Iraq is the most successful war in U.S. History. Please explain how that its bad policy.

Yes, toppling Saddam was easy. No one ever thought it would not be. However, if that was the war's single objective, we would have long since been gone. The Social Experiment that followed is what has been bad policy.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Iraq is the most successful war in U.S. History. Please explain how that its bad policy.

The short and simple is that we spent lives and hundreds of billions of dollars unecessarily to "embolden terrorists" when we could have done so for free. Or, we could have used the lives and resources to do something other than encourage more folks to become terrorists.
IMHO, spending lives unecessarily is bad policy. YMMV.

As the Iraq war has set back (rather than improved) our prosecution of the GWoT, how do you figure it's successful?
Or is the invasion of Iraq no longer related to the GWoT?

Of course, our military did kick ***. Too bad that's not enough in this situation. If it was, they'd be home by now like Rumsfeld said.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

The Social Experiment that followed is what has been bad policy.

It's not so much that the federal govt's social-engineering of a foreign contry on the other side of the globe "followed" so much as it 'inspired.'

That a federal govt, social-engineering project ever came to be labelled as conservative is surprising.

Generally it's understood that such programs, even when conducted in the US (where there're so many more known knowns and unkowns and so many fewer unknown knowns and unknowns) they tend to be ... less than stellar.

Of course our military rocked. We have the greatest fighting force the world has ever known. They were just put to a poorly chosen task.

 

[aps]

:2wave: :roll:

Good for you, KidRocks. I have taken to ignoring CurrentAffairs. All he does is throw out Republican talking points without any independent thought processes.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

I have taken to ignoring CurrentAffairs.

Now THAT'S as gift.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

:2wave: :roll:

I understand you feel caught and cornered. I'll assume you have no answer to the question. Thanks.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Good for you, KidRocks. I have taken to ignoring CurrentAffairs. All he does is throw out Republican talking points without any independent thought processes.

Similar to this, you mean:

From your Gerry Studds thread...

aps wrote:
"No, they (republicans) are incapable of accepting responsibility. It's pathetic."

No independent thought here either, aps. Just a talking point.

kidrock says it's a gift that support for the war is weakening. I'd just like him to explain. Notice he doesn't/can't.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I understand you feel caught and cornered. I'll assume you have no answer to the question. Thanks.

To be fair, it's a very, very silly question.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

To be fair, it's a very, very silly question.

Then maybe you also think it's a gift.

 

[danarhea]

Then maybe you also think it's a gift.

If you are reduced to making the same claims and talking points against Simon Moon, a Republican on this board, then perhaps there are some serious flaws in your own logic.