Poll: 79 percent of Americans think border is in ‘crisis’ or is a ‘problem’

[Xelor]

Someone didn't read the poll referenced in the article to which the Daily Caller author linked: December 18, 2018 - U.S. Voters Say No Wall And Don't Shut Down . The noted question -- whether there be a "crisis"/"problem" on the southern border -- isn't even among the questions asked. The closest question to that is "Do you think border security is an important issue?" The referenced Politico article mentions a Politico/Morning Consult poll; however, it provides no reference link so readers can view the poll.

 

[Objective Voice]

It seems the Leftists here believe by a margin of 90%, the wall is neither a crisis nor a problem.

:lamo :lamo This is hilarious!

Not only does the Daily Caller go waaaay out of it's way to manufacture polling results to suit its reader's desires, it links to a story from Politico.com (re: "survey" link in opening paragraph) that reports the exact opposite of what they claim.

Source: Politico.com - Poll: Voters blame Trump, GOP for shutdown

This is how the DailyCaller presented the polling data...

A vast majority of American voters believe that the United States is facing a “crisis” or a “problem” on the southern border, according to a new poll by Politico and Morning Consult.

While less than half of those surveyed (42 percent) agree with President Donald Trump’s assertion that the border is in “crisis,” another 37 percent concede that there is a “problem” — meaning 79 percent of voters believe the situation at the border is a serious issue.

And this is how Politico presented the same information which is the basis of the DailyCaller's story...

[Sic]...less than half of voters (42 percent) view it as ‘a crisis,‘ the poll shows. There is, however, widespread belief that the border is a serious issue: In addition to the 4-in-10 voters who say the border situation is ‘a crisis,‘ another 37 percent say the U.S. has ‘a problem‘ along the border, though they don’t view it as a crisis.

Just 12 percent say the U.S. faces neither a crisis nor a problem at the border.

Another and more accurate way of looking at the overall numbers is "70% of Americans don't view the situation at our southern borders as either a crisis nor a problem compared to 30% who do" which would fall right in line with the average number of Trump supporters in the country.

Just goes to show you can do damned near anything with polling data to twist it to your liking. Only in this case, the DailyCaller did a helluva lot of twisting....so much so, they turned themselves into a pretzel doing it. :lamo

 

[Objective Voice]

Someone didn't read the poll referenced in the article to which the Daily Caller author linked: December 18, 2018 - U.S. Voters Say No Wall And Don't Shut Down . The noted question -- whether there be a "crisis"/"problem" on the southern border -- isn't even among the questions asked. The closest question to that is "Do you think border security is an important issue?" The referenced Politico article mentions a Politico/Morning Consult poll; however, it provides no reference link so readers can view the poll.

Thing is from that same Quinnipiac poll, 47% of Republican men and 40% of Republican women oppose building a wall along our southern border. So in reality, Pres. Trump is under water among his own core constituents. He probably saw that "83% of Republicans support the wall" and thought "this is great!" without reading the fine print. :doh (Of course, he was probably enthralled to see that 54% of White men support the wall....just saying. Conversely, the support among Whites overall for the wall is still less than half...49%. So....:shrug

Now, to be fair support for the wall has been growing ever so slowly since 4/20/2017 (33%) to 12/18/2018 (43%), but that's a very slow crawl. Hence, this mega push/manufactured crisis by Trump to gen-up support for his wall and keep his core campaign promise. Good luck with that...

 

[Parrish]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/08/poll-voters-blame-trump-gop-for-shutdown-1088207

The poll I read and the OP is quite a bit different.

 

[VanceMack]

Democrats all believed illegal immigration was a problem. Until Trump did too.

Its firmly established. Rats are liars and hypocrites.

 

[uptower]

It seems the Leftists here believe by a margin of 90%, the wall is neither a crisis nor a problem.

Choose your own logical fallacy on this, because there are multiple layers of fail in such a simplistic premise.

1. Because most Americans support some form of border security they also support the wall...
2. ...because in terms of border security it's a wall or nothing
3. Therefore those who don't support the wall are against border security...
4. ...which means they're delusional, anti-American or some other sort of 'enemy'.

 

[Deuce]

Poll: 98% of Americans think lemons are "a bit sour" or "taste like the devil's anus"

 

[Born Free]

Anyone with a lick of sense. Even the odd Conservative. Trump's a con man. If you don't know that, you're a mark.

And who are you conning, by telling people that walls don't work and just a line in the sand offers better security.

 

[Born Free]

I believe we have some problems on our Southern border, I do not believe that a wall across our Southern border is a realistic or effective way of dealing with that problem.

Really, so according to you walls don't work, but just having a line in the sand provides realistic and an effective way to deal with the problem. Explain that logic to me.

 

[Crosscheck]

How many people were used in this poll? 10, 20, 30, 1000, 10,000 ?

Just as I thought. 10 people.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Really, so according to you walls don't work, but just having a line in the sand provides realistic and an effective way to deal with the problem. Explain that logic to me.

I think it would cost the federal government half a trillion to get an effective wall built on our Southern border. Or we could just make E-verify mandatory and thus make it next to impossible to work here illegally. The second option is a hall of a lot cheaper and far more effective.

 

[Deuce]

And who are you conning, by telling people that walls don't work and just a line in the sand offers better security.

Why would you lie about these two options being the only options?

 

[zimmer]

Conflating "crisis" and "problem" is just comical.

79% believe there is a crisis or problem. 42% of the 79% believe it is a crisis.

What is comical is the responses from Leftists to the OP.

I understand the poll shatters your world, like Trump’s victory had.

Oh well.

 

[prometeus]

It seems the Leftists here believe by a margin of 90%, the wall is neither a crisis nor a problem.

Yet another on of your dishonest moronic posts in an endless string demonstrating stupidity. Where is wall mentioned in that poll?

 

[zimmer]

Yet another on of your dishonest moronic posts in an endless string demonstrating stupidity. Where is wall mentioned in that poll?

ROTFLOL...

Yeah ... Border Security today means a line drawn in the dirt with a stick in areas without a wall or fence... And rounding up invaders after they crossed said line. Until recently, releasing them into the country has been the modus operandi for decades.

What is a problem or crisis, and what is the solution that’s been proffered since 2015? A wall.

And what are we in the middle of now? A shutdown because Democrats are unwilling to provide funds equaling 1/10th of 1% of the annual federal budget.

 

[prometeus]

Yeah ... Border Security today means a line drawn in the dirt with a stick in areas without a wall or fence...

Who said that? Why do you always lie?

What is a problem or crisis, and what is the solution that’s been proffered since 2015? A wall.

Who said that it is a wall?

 

[Born Free]

I think it would cost the federal government half a trillion to get an effective wall built on our Southern border. Or we could just make E-verify mandatory and thus make it next to impossible to work here illegally. The second option is a hall of a lot cheaper and far more effective.

Shake your head, you liberals are so far out there its not even funny.

First it's not the entire southern border, did you not know that there are natural barriers that no wall is needed? There are hot spots of crossings that require barriers.

E-verify, now that is the joke of the century. Christ you have sanctuary cities/states scattered all across the country and you want to talk about E-verify? You harbor illegals and you will not talk to ICE and you release illegal criminals back into society and will NOT deport them. Your sanctuary cities/states is a huge welcome sign to illegals to come and be with you. And when they come you have to feed them, you have to give them jobs, health care, food stamps, housing, a cell phone, welfare, etc.

And all the while your doing your sanctuary illegal thing, your asking the mom and pop businesses to E-verify. Who in the hell are you kidding.

 

[Born Free]

Why would you lie about these two options being the only options?

Can you really be serious, we are comparing two choices, you claim walls don't work, thus if there is no wall then you only have a line in the sand. Now tell me how much more effective a line in the sand is compared to a wall. Yes that is the question.

 

[zimmer]

Who said that? Why do you always lie?

Who said that it is a wall?

That is what our border security is in many areas. A line in the dirt.

The wall has been in discussion since 2015... just in case you missed it.