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Poll: 62 Percent of Americans Say Putin Wouldn’t Be Invading if Trump Were President

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Poll: 62 Percent of Americans Say Putin Wouldn’t Be Invading if Trump Were President
With Joe Biden looking on helplessly as Russia invades Ukraine, Democrats and their pundit and activist class have put most of their eggs in the basket of pretending that Republicans are the pro-Putin party and telling everyone that “this would be much worse if that Putin stooge Donald Trump were still in charge.” Trump, characteristically, hasn’t helped himself with his remarks. But how well is this line of argument working out for Democrats? As Ramesh Ponnuru has noted, most Republican politicians have taken a strong anti-Putin line, and polls have shown that most Republican voters are anti-Putin. In the latest Gallup survey, 88 percent of Republican voters have an unfavorable view of Russia, the same percentage as among Democratic voters.

But at least blaming Republicans for Trump will work, right? Let’s check in with the latest Harvard-Harris poll:

A new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released Friday found that 62 percent of those polled believed Putin would not be moving against Ukraine if Trump had been president. When looking strictly at the answers of Democrats and Republicans, 85 percent of Republicans and 38 percent of Democrats answered this way. . . . A majority of Americans polled — 59 percent — also said they believed that the Russian president moved on Ukraine because Putin saw weakness in President Biden.
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Probably true too.
 
Good thing polls don't drive policy outside of populist movements.
 
Schism said:
Probably true too.
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Probably.

Ever since Putin helped Trump get elected the two have been allies. Putin had no intention of making Trump look bad because Trump was giving Putin everything he wanted.

Trump has long expressed an admiration for Putin, saying that as president, he got along "great" with the Russian leader.

"He liked me. I liked him. I mean, you know, he's a tough cookie, got a lot of great charm and a lot of pride," Trump said. "And he loves his country, you know? He loves his country."

Concerning Russia's interference in our 2016 election, President Trump sided with Putin in July 2018. He "declined to endorse the US government’s assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, saying he doesn’t “see any reason why” Russia would be responsible," CNN reports.

“I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today,” Trump said.

Iran is a sworn enemy of the U.S. and the West. Iran is a Russian ally. The Iranian nuclear agreement (known as the JCPOA) was an agreement between Iran and the six major powers. It permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear weapon.

President Trump destroyed the agreement in May 2018.

Why in hell would Putin piss off Trump. He was getting everything he wanted from his protégé.

More than likely there will be no response from Trump Republicans. They try to avoid Trump.

Strange, but true. This may have something to do with their intelligence level.
 
Probably true. Trump gave Putin what he wanted, a weakened NATO and little to no support for Ukraine. Now Putin has to invade a sovereign nation in an attempt to get that!
 
Schism said:
Poll: 62 Percent of Americans Say Putin Wouldn’t Be Invading if Trump Were President


Probably true too.
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You can tell that Crooked donnietrump was much respected on the world stage, the way other leaders openly busted up laughing in his face when he attempted to speak, sounding like an 8 year old child.

Crooked donnietrump would have flexed his mighty Bone Spurs, sending Putin yapping away with his tail tucked between his legs like a frightened puppy.:LOL:

Good lord, how the actual **** are there STILL people in the USA smooching Crooked donnietrumps big dumb rear end? truly breathtaking.

'Murcan FrEeDuMbZ$™!!
 
Watching Conservatives try so hard to make Putin's deplorable invasion of Ukraine all about Biden-bad, Trump-great is so pathetic.
Meanwhile Trump in the background with a steady stream of praising Putin before, and even presently, while the world condemns him is so tragically comical.
 
jpn said:
Realizing what? That far-right media outlets are pulling out all the stop supporting Putin's canard that the reason he's invading Ukraine is because of NATO expansion?

Sure, we all know that. So what?
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If Russia or China made a sweetheart deal with Mexico to operate military bases on our border, we'd have a major problem with it, for good cause. The same is true with western expansion. We need to be more inclusive instead of constantly posturing and making threats. Russia and Saudi's provide the worlds energy, Russia provides wheat, steel, minerals, and coal while China makes the rest.

The west have become nothing but consumers. We have to get along with these nations because we don't produce jack squat anymore.

Plus, look at our debt and weak dollar. We can't afford WW3 with liberals wanting to throw trillions at unemployed addicts and tent cities.
 
Schism said:
If Russia or China made a sweetheart deal with Mexico to operate military bases on our border, we'd have a major problem with it, for good cause. The same is true with western expansion. We need to be more inclusive instead of constantly posturing and making threats. Russia and Saudi's provide the worlds energy, Russia provides wheat, steel, minerals, and coal while China makes the rest.

The west have become nothing but consumers. We have to get along with these nations because we don't produce jack squat anymore.

Plus, look at our debt and weak dollar. We can't afford WW3 with liberals wanting to throw trillions at unemployed addicts and tent cities.
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You seem to want us to cow to Russia and china because you have given into your perceived belief in their dominance.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
You seem to want us to cow to Russia and china
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Then you would be wrong. We need to form agreements of mutual benefit devoid of military threats.

FreedomFromAll said:
because you have given into your perceived belief in their dominance.
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I've given in to the reality that we are massive consumers of imported products. You think supply chain disruption is bad now?

Wait til we go to war with Russia or China, or more likely both at the same time. We will have nothing but bullets.
 
jamesrage said:
When Obama was president and Biden vice president the Russians ****ed with with Georgians and Ukrainians. When Trump was president Russia didn't do shit.Now Biden is president the Russians are back to messing with their neighbors. I can see how most Americans can make that fair judgement. Only a Trump derangement sufferer would claim the opposite.
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No actually real logic following actual facts and history is:

Why would Putin attack Ukraine when his puppet was POTUS. Trump was already attacking Ukraine, trying to deny them military aide.

Logic definitely points to a Putin puppet had Ukraine right where Putin wanted them. Further more evidence suggests Trump was in the process of weakening Ukraine for a time when Putin didn't have commorade trump in office.
 
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