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Politico: Trump's long dalliance with violent rhetoric

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An article from Politico posted today

In May, the Secret Service investigated Donald Trump’s butler over a Facebook post saying that President Barack Obama “should be shot as an enemy agent.”

Secret Service agents also interviewed a Trump campaign adviser last month, after he said that Hillary Clinton “should be put in the firing line and shot for treason.”

In December, Trump himself appeared on the radio show of the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who has warned that the federal government might round up gun owners “like Jews in Nazi Germany.”

And refrains of “hang the bitch” and “kill the bitch” have grown increasingly common at Trump rallies.

Even before Trump’s Tuesday remark that “Second Amendment people” might stop Hillary Clinton’s Supreme Court appointments, his associates and supporters had repeatedly called for violence against Clinton and Obama, while right-wing leaders and militia groups that support Trump speak of an armed response to federal gun control efforts.

Trump's long dalliance with violent rhetoric - POLITICO
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Trump is an asshole, but he isn't the only asshole to use such rhetoric in a campaign for President:


Nor did he use the actual word "assassination" like another asshole did:


But, that doesn't lessen the fact that like Biden and Hillary, Trump is an asshole.
 

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Does this mean that we have nearly three more months of "Trump's an Asshole" threads to go here at DP? Geeze. What if he wins? Could happen.
 

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Does this mean that we have nearly three more months of "Trump's an Asshole" threads to go here at DP? Geeze. What if he wins? Could happen.

Well, then the threads will be "The President's an Asshole". Not very different from the last several years, at least, on the site I was at before coming here....
 

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Trump is an asshole, but he isn't the only asshole to use such rhetoric in a campaign for President:


Nor did he use the actual word "assassination" like another asshole did:


But, that doesn't lessen the fact that like Biden and Hillary, Trump is an asshole.


Beaudreaux, it is not just trump whose violent rhetoric toward his opponent is viewed as worrying...

It is the people at his rallies who repeatedly shout "hang her" when Hillary' name is mentioned...

It is the surrogates of the Trump campaign who also engage in this violent rhetoric.

There has been a pattern of trump or his campagin engaging in incinderary rhetoric.
 

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Beaudreaux, it is not just trump whose violent rhetoric toward his opponent is viewed as worrying...

It is the people at his rallies who repeatedly shout "hang her" when Hillary' name is mentioned...

It is the surrogates of the Trump campaign who also engage in this violent rhetoric.

There has been a pattern of trump or his campagin engaging in incinderary rhetoric.

How about the BLM chanting "Dead cops"? Hillary supporters have no problem with that. And either does Hillary. So what do think is a good way to die, being hung or being "fried like bacon"?

And it is incendiary how? All the violence, except one punch in the face, has been from anti-Trump protestors. The media puts people on who say it is incendiary that is why low information voters think so. And it is the high information people perpetuating a lie.
 

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Beaudreaux, it is not just trump whose violent rhetoric toward his opponent is viewed as worrying...

It is the people at his rallies who repeatedly shout "hang her" when Hillary' name is mentioned...

It is the surrogates of the Trump campaign who also engage in this violent rhetoric.

There has been a pattern of trump or his campagin engaging in incinderary rhetoric.

Agreed. However, we had the same types of things being yelled about GW Bush for years, with him even being hung in effigy as well as burned at the stake at times, and is even still though he's not the POTUS anymore.

The hatred toward "the others" by "the others" is always bad, as it also is when it's "the others" that are attacking "the others," but it's not any worse than it's been in the past. The side where it originates, or the side that it's targeted toward, makes no difference as to the level of right versus wrong. That's two of the reasons I posted those videos - to show it isn't new, and that it isn't any worse than it's been on the past.

As for the "lock her up" chant, I don't have a problem with that one, since that chant could accurately be used against the majority of politicians.
 

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An article from Politico posted today



Trump's long dalliance with violent rhetoric - POLITICO
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I think the research into media manipulation and bias currently underway will identify this election cycle as one of the worst displays of media manipulation and election tampering in modern election history.

Not sure what can be done about it, but at least the evidence will be simple to gather.

In the end, I guess voters will have to decide if they are going to accept what amounts to a State Owned Media picking Legislators and Presidents.
 

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I think when the government purposely violates it's own constitution there comes a time when violence is necessary. The fact that we have a federal government that appears to not understand that several amendment including the first, second, fourth and firth somehow can be freely violated is more than enough cause.
 

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Well, then the threads will be "The President's an Asshole". Not very different from the last several years, at least, on the site I was at before coming here....

That's exactly what I'm worried about, and it's not exclusive to Trump. I think they're all assholes...
 

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Agreed. However, we had the same types of things being yelled about GW Bush for years, with him even being hung in effigy as well as burned at the stake at times, and is even still though he's not the POTUS anymore.

The hatred toward "the others" by "the others" is always bad, as it also is when it's "the others" that are attacking "the others," but it's not any worse than it's been in the past. The side where it originates, or the side that it's targeted toward, makes no difference as to the level of right versus wrong. That's two of the reasons I posted those videos - to show it isn't new, and that it isn't any worse than it's been on the past.

As for the "lock her up" chant, I don't have a problem with that one, since that chant could accurately be used against the majority of politicians.

When you dehumanize and demonize someone, it emboldens the individuals who are willing to use extreme measures to defeat what they detest.

When Isreali prime minister Yitzhak Rabin signed the Oslo peace accords, his political rivals denounced him for what they saw as a betrayal of Isreal and Rabin was denounced by some as a enemy of Isreal.

This demonization fueled Yigal Amir motivation to assassinate prime minister Rabin in 1995.
 

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When you dehumanize and demonize someone, it emboldens the individuals who are willing to use extreme measures to defeat what they detest.

When Isreali prime minister Yitzhak Rabin signed the Oslo peace accords, his political rivals denounced him for what they saw as a betrayal of Isreal and Rabin was denounced by some as a enemy of Isreal.

This demonization fueled Yigal Amir motivation to assassinate prime minister Rabin in 1995.

Non-sequitur. There is no proof, or evidence, or even a hint that anyone is trying to do harm to Hilary Clinton due to anything Trump has said. Just as there is no proof, or evidence, or even a hint that anyone that actually did break through the perimeter of the White House grounds in an actual attempt to do harm to President Obama during the last 8 years did so because of what Biden said about shooting Obama for trying to take his gun, or what Hillary said about assassinating Obama as RFK was assassinated.
 

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Its only going to get worse as long as liberals continue to demonize the people that made this country great, tying to guilt them into handing over our wealth rights and freedom to the unwashed masses of miorities around the globe that have contributed nothing but misery. All of this is done under the guise of equal opportunity, but we all know there will never be such a thing unles we are all reduced to the lowerswt comon denominator. It is really equal outcome they seek because that they can dole out like prividges from the benevolent global Nanny State. Of course however, as Hillary proves over and over, the there will be one set of rules and equal outcome for the facist leaders and another for the fools that believe in the promise of liberal socialism. There will be bloodshed, its only a matter of time. They know this, that's the real reason they are trying to erode and eventually eliminate the 2nd Amendment, among others.
 
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Its only going to get worse as long as liberals continue to demonize the people that made this country great, tying to guilt them into handing over our wealth rights and freedom to the unwashed masses of miorities around the globe that have contributed nothing but misery. All of this is done under the guise of equal opportunity, but we all know there will never be such a thing unles we are all reduced to the lowerswt comon denominator. It is really equal outcome they seek because that they can dole out like prividges from the benevolent global Nanny State. Of course however, as Hillary proves over and over, the there will be one set of rules and equal outcome for the facist leaders and another for the fools that believe in the promise of liberal socialism. There will be bloodshed, its only a matter of time. They know this, that's the real reason they are trying to erode and eventually eliminate the 2nd Amendment, among others.

Says the guy who has minority blood in his veins (as we all do).

I guess your comment above answers the question as to whether you've got racist leanings. And btw, we whites ARE a minority "around the globe"...and if we continue to hold our most highly-educated people in contempt (as our Right seems to love to do), we're going to get technologically passed-up by China.
 

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Says the guy who has minority blood in his veins (as we all do).

I guess your comment above answers the question as to whether you've got racist leanings. And btw, we whites ARE a minority "around the globe"...and if we continue to hold our most highly-educated people in contempt (as our Right seems to love to do), we're going to get technologically passed-up by China.

So the most highly educated people are the minorites huh? Then why are all the minority countries festering **** holes?
 

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Trump has decided to take his WWE act all the way to the end.

I have no idea if it will work or not.

But I love the balls on this guy.
 

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So the most highly educated people are the minorites huh? Then why are all the minority countries festering **** holes?

I didn't say that - or even imply it. Take a course in reading, willya? As long as y'all keep thinking that academia is somehow corrupted because it's academia, that y'all shouldn't listen to them, our overall level of education will continue to stagnate...and other nations will pass us up.

Time for y'all to start valuing higher education...and for y'all to start listening to those who have a heck of a lot more education than the rest of us.
 
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