Politicians' silence on Iraq speaks volumes

[Navy Pride]

Doesn't matter, NP. They were just 'mistaken'. BUsh, however, is a liar. Right, Gibby? :rofl

Yes, isn't that strange.......A while back I saw a list of quotes by prominent democrats on the war and they were right in line with what the administration and the president has been saying, but he is the only one who is a liar.........

Can you say hypocrite?

 

[KCConservative]

Yes, isn;t that strange.......A while back I saw a list of quotes by prominent democrats on the war and they were right in line with what the administration and the president has been saying, but he is the only one who is a liar.........

Can you say hypocrite?

You mean this one?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real...."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” Nancy Pelosi Dec 16, 1998

“For the risks that the leaders of Iraq will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against usor our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” Madeline Albright, Feb. 18, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“We urge you to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

 

[KCConservative]

Continued

“There is no doubt that Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001

“We should be hell bent on getting those WMDs, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing Saddam Hussein” - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

“Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the U.N. and is building WMD’s and the means of delivering them.” Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sep. 19, 2002

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Saddam Hussein retains his chemical and biological warfare capabilities and is actively pursuing nuclear capabilities.”
Wesley Clark, Sept. 26, 2002

House Armed Services Committee Testimony.
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“Saddam Hussein has since (10/98) embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“I will be voting to give the President the Authority to USE FORCE to DISARM Hussein because I believe that a DEADLY Arsenal of WMD’s in his hands is a Grave Threat to our Security.” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years.” Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct. 10, 2002

“Saddam has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“It is clear that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

“Saddam Hussein used chemical and biological weapons. He disregarded UN resolutions. His forces fire on American jets. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear weapons.” Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

“We are in possession of compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 CBS Face The Nation

“We need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.”

Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq’s efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction.” Congressional Record Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002

 

[Gibberish]

Half of those quotes are moot.

Many of those senators said what they said based on the fact that the intell on Saddam, IRAQ, 9/11, and AL-Q given to them by Bush was 100% correct, which turned out to be FALSE intell.

If we should debate with quotes repbulicans had a difference of opinion on how a war should/why be fought a few years back.

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) on Bosnia

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) on Bosnia

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99 on Bosnia

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
--Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) on Bosnia

 

[oldreliable67]

See it? Putting both of these previous two next to each just reinforces what many have long thought to be true: there are actually virtually zero politicians of either party who will objectively and pragmatically examine the current state of affairs, whenever and where ever that might be, and come to an objective, pragmatic conclusion, a conclusion based on an analysis of the problem and a solution based on solving the problem without requiring that the solution is based on the party line - their conclusions will almost always reflect attempts to gain partisan advantage.

A notable exception: when a Dem publicly states a position that is at odds with the Dem 'party line' it is news, as witness Joe Lieberman's op ed piece in the WSJ yesterday. Way to go, Joe! Way to go not necessarily for your opinion, but for his courage and willingness to express an opinion that he thinks is right.

 

[Navy Pride]

Continued

“There is no doubt that Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001

“We should be hell bent on getting those WMDs, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing Saddam Hussein” - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

“Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the U.N. and is building WMD’s and the means of delivering them.” Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sep. 19, 2002

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Saddam Hussein retains his chemical and biological warfare capabilities and is actively pursuing nuclear capabilities.”
Wesley Clark, Sept. 26, 2002

House Armed Services Committee Testimony.
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“Saddam Hussein has since (10/98) embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“I will be voting to give the President the Authority to USE FORCE to DISARM Hussein because I believe that a DEADLY Arsenal of WMD’s in his hands is a Grave Threat to our Security.” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years.” Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct. 10, 2002

“Saddam has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“It is clear that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

“Saddam Hussein used chemical and biological weapons. He disregarded UN resolutions. His forces fire on American jets. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear weapons.” Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

“We are in possession of compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 CBS Face The Nation

“We need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.”

Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq’s efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction.” Congressional Record Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002

Yeah that is the one KCC but don't you know that President Bush is the only liar.............

Can you say hypocrites???????????

 

[Navy Pride]

Half of those quotes are moot.

Many of those senators said what they said based on the fact that the intell on Saddam, IRAQ, 9/11, and AL-Q given to them by Bush was 100% correct, which turned out to be FALSE intell.

If we should debate with quotes repbulicans had a difference of opinion on how a war should/why be fought a few years back.

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) on Bosnia

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) on Bosnia

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99 on Bosnia

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
--Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) on Bosnia

Give me a frigging break, a lot of them said it before Bush was even president!!!!!! How do you weasle out of that??????

 

[Navy Pride]

See it? Putting both of these previous two next to each just reinforces what many have long thought to be true: there are actually virtually zero politicians of either party who will objectively and pragmatically examine the current state of affairs, whenever and where ever that might be, and come to an objective, pragmatic conclusion, a conclusion based on an analysis of the problem and a solution based on solving the problem without requiring that the solution is based on the party line - their conclusions will almost always reflect attempts to gain partisan advantage.

A notable exception: when a Dem publicly states a position that is at odds with the Dem 'party line' it is news, as witness Joe Lieberman's op ed piece in the WSJ yesterday. Way to go, Joe! Way to go not necessarily for your opinion, but for his courage and willingness to express an opinion that he thinks is right.

I read somewhere that only 6 senators went to the classified section and read the intell...........That is 6 out of 100.......

 

[Gibberish]

Every politican said Saddam had WOMD including Kerry, both Clintons, Pelosi and others........

I'll say it for the 100th time and I'll try to talk slow this time. ALL the senators, democrat and republican, had only the intell Bush gave them. Bush said that Saddam had WMD and that we should attack, naturally the senators believed him and agreed with attacking.

It wasn't until after the start of the war and a lot of deaths that the senators found out Bush presented false intell about the WMD. Naturally the democrats stopped and questioned the motives of why false intell was given and started saying we should not be attacking a country based on false documentation.

I don't see what is so hard to understand.

 

[Gibberish]

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real...."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” Nancy Pelosi Dec 16, 1998

“For the risks that the leaders of Iraq will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against usor our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” Madeline Albright, Feb. 18, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“We urge you to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

Here are your quotes in the proper context.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

 

[Navy Pride]

I'll say it for the 100th time and I'll try to talk slow this time. ALL the senators, democrat and republican, had only the intell Bush gave them. Bush said that Saddam had WMD and that we should attack, naturally the senators believed him and agreed with attacking.

It wasn't until after the start of the war and a lot of deaths that the senators found out Bush presented false intell about the WMD. Naturally the democrats stopped and questioned the motives of why false intell was given and started saying we should not be attacking a country based on false documentation.

I don't see what is so hard to understand.

Ans I will say this for the 1000th time..Whye were Clinton, Albright and the rest of the preaching regime change in Iraq befor Bush was even President? How do you blame that on him?

 

[Gibberish]

Ans I will say this for the 1000th time..Whye were Clinton, Albright and the rest of the preaching regime change in Iraq befor Bush was even President? How do you blame that on him?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

 

[dragonslayer]

We attacked Iraq because rightly or wrongly (No one will probably ever know for sure) we thought Saddam had WOMD and that if he had the opportunity he would either use them himself or sell them to some terrorist organization to use on us..................

One thing we know for sure though, this world is a better place with Saddam out of power and he will never use WOMD on any country or his own people ever again........

Isn't it strange. I agree we are in a better world with Saddam out of Power. The world will be again that much better when Bush is out of Power.
I am a Democrat but I am not interested in Hilary being President, but any Democrat man or woman will do instead of a mentally ill president Bush.

 

[Navy Pride]

Isn't it strange. I agree we are in a better world with Saddam out of Power. The world will be again that much better when Bush is out of Power.
I am a Democrat but I am not interested in Hilary being President, but any Democrat man or woman will do instead of a mentally ill president Bush.

Like it or not Hillary will be your nominee in 2008 and I predict she will get squashed by any Republican candidate........She will carry New York and several liberal New England states ........It will be a landslide for the Republican nominee...............

I can't wait.............

 

[Gibberish]

Like it or not Hillary will be your nominee in 2008 and I predict she will get squashed by any Republican candidate........She will carry New York and several liberal New England states ........It will be a landslide for the Republican nominee...............

I can't wait.............

Biden will be the nominee before Hillary is.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8278461
http://www.joebiden.com/

 

[JOHNYJ]

The Republicans and President Bush own the Iraq war.
It was a war of choice,whatever happens they will get the blame or the credit.
Also the democrats don't know what the hell to do in Iraq .So they are being as vague and unclear as they can be.

 

[Navy Pride]

Biden will be the nominee before Hillary is.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8278461
http://www.joebiden.com/

Wanna bet?

 

[akyron]

A notable exception: when a Dem publicly states a position that is at odds with the Dem 'party line' it is news, as witness Joe Lieberman's op ed piece in the WSJ yesterday. Way to go, Joe! Way to go not necessarily for your opinion, but for his courage and willingness to express an opinion that he thinks is right.

Yes that was surprising to me and seemed out of character for the climate and I was pleasantly surprised at his courage and willingness to toss aside the party line and state his informed view.

 

[Navy Pride]

It took a lot of courage for Leiberman to go against the party line and tell the truth about what is happening in Iraq........I take my hat off to him........

 

[dragonslayer]

First of all, we didn't attack Iraq...not in the way you are insinuating. We have no beef with the good people of Iraq, and you know it. Our president told us on September 12, 2001 that we would fight terror wherever it was. In Afghanistan, in Iraq, even here at home. Why is there so much insistance that there be a direct bin-laden and Saddam link, or a direct WMD link? Does anybody disspute that Saddam and his minions were terrorising an entire nation? I sure don't.

Read the list in post #94. You can't ignore that list of facts.

what Facts? Just opinion and inuendo. We know Saddam killed his own people. How did that fact make him a threat to the security of the USA?

We attacked Irag for no reason other than to make sure that Iraq did not become part of the European common market. It is and was pure unadulterated aggression. Irag was no threat to us no matter what Saddam was doing to his own.

Look how bad the Neo Conservatives are f__king up the USA, are you saying that it is alright for the Martians to attack us and kill Americans just to get rid of Bush?

When are we going let Iraq take care of Iraq and start fighting the war on terrorism.

 

[MSgt]

what Facts? Just opinion and inuendo. We know Saddam killed his own people. How did that fact make him a threat to the security of the USA?

We attacked Irag for no reason other than to make sure that Iraq did not become part of the European common market. It is and was pure unadulterated aggression. Irag was no threat to us no matter what Saddam was doing to his own.

Look how bad the Neo Conservatives are f__king up the USA, are you saying that it is alright for the Martians to attack us and kill Americans just to get rid of Bush?

When are we going let Iraq take care of Iraq and start fighting the war on terrorism.

The threat to the security of the USA is the MIDDLE EAST. There is a bigger picture.

The fight on terrorism is very much about the MIDDLE EAST. It is not just about the futile, neverending chasing of terrorists around the globe. It is about changing the civilization from which they breed. It is about democracizing the region. Taking out Saddam's Regime was the best strategic move towards this. It was the best way to avoid a larger war and more death. This has nothing to do with Bush. The notion of democracy as a necessary must to our security has been called for by military analysts, CIA, and regional experts since the Reagan era. Crack a book or a thousand. All Presidents have known it...all Presidents have ignored it, because it is political suicide to attempt this. Nothing short of instilling a democracy ourselves was going to bring about change and only twice we have been presented the opportunity. Both times were from Saddam and we let the chance slip by the first time because of political pressure - oddly enough, by a former director of the CIA who knew better. This is not about individual countries or terror organizations, because for the last thirty years the members of these numerous organizations have all come from all over the region. The region is full of Mullahs and dictators who encourage terror and martyrdom. They encourage their "heroes" to murder and destroy. They preach to them and they pay them off. The free flow of information is suppressed. They are controlled through a dominating religion. They collectively agree that you are an enemy of their God. Their is no value stressed upon education. The population is largely made up of futureless youth who need to explain away their failures and lack of opportunity while their leadership needs us as an enemy to misdirect blame. This is a civilization of which Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are a part of. The Arab and Persian Middle East was never going to lift a finger to aid themselves out of their barbarous, oppressive status quo and 9/11 taught us that we can no longer wait for them to catch up to the 21st century. This civilization has failed and their legions of extremists adherent's revenge is to slaughter infidels.

And why do we not take the drastic measures we should militarily take against the "House of Saud" (the true lords of terror) to encourage a quicker change, because the world still needs these bastards' oil.

I got news for you...no politician gives a damn about your loyalty. They just want your vote. This could have easily been Clinton if he decided to do what he knew very well also. It doesn't matter whether you agree to facts or agree with every lying Democratic politician (many of whom knows better behind closed doors) or ignorant reporter out there who feeds you your opinions...this is the reality. Right or wrong, it is necessary. I just can't fathom why you insist on this obtuse trail. It's almost like you need to remain ignorant or something.

...and by the way...Marines are engaged in Ethiopia, Sudan, Afghanistan, Phillipines, the Balkans, and Indonesia, and many others. They are tracking down terrorist organizations and killing terrorist where ever they find them with the help of the local governments. Everytime an "Apocalyptic" terrorist destroys and murders civilians, they tighten the noose. The absolute worse thing they could do is kill fellow Muslims to the confusion of the Muslim Arab world. Such is the very definition of an "Apocalyptic" terrorist.

 

[KCConservative]

mentally ill president Bush.

link please

 

[oldreliable67]

Gunny,

Once again, exactly spot on...good job.

 

[SixStringHero]

link please

LOL

That's a good one.