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QUESTION
WHAT IS AN IRAQI DOING IN A BRITISH PUB
WHEN BRITISH SOLDIERS ARE IN IRAQ?

Kevin Hughes British National Party Organiser has been imprisoned for an alleged racially aggravated assault on an Iraqi asylum seeker. Despite there being no injuries, no evidence and no witnesses the jury believed the words of a twice failed asylum seeker who spoke in court through an interpreter claiming he was unable to speak any English.
We ask all those who believe in justice to question this sentence. WE urge you to call the prison, to write to the prison, to demand that the prison exercise their “duty of care” to Kevin.
Full details are available at the link below.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1024

Thank You

Tom Linden
BNP Organiser

 

[tecoyah]

So...he isnt a racist, and there is no basis for his imprisonment, Yet he knows this Guy:

"Griffin has a history of Holocaust denial and has in the past made anti-Semitic remarks.

In issue 11 of the BNP publication The Rune (see above) he called the Holocaust "the Holohoax" and criticised the Holocaust denier David Irving for admitting in an interview that some Jews might have died in the Holocaust. Griffin wrote: "True Revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century." [4][5][6] Griffin was eventually prosecuted for his articles in The Rune (see below).

In 1997 he told an undercover journalist that he had updated Richard Verrall's Holocaust denial book Did Six Million Really Die?. He also described his former MP, Alex Carlile, QC, who had reported The Rune to the police, as "this bloody Jew... whose only claim is that his grandparents died in the Holocaust."[3]

In the same year he wrote a pamphlet, "Who Are The Mindbenders", which alleged that a cabal of Jews controlled the British media, "providing us with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexual, anti-British trash." [7]

In his defence during his 1998 prosecution (see below), Griffin said: "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat ... I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria."[8]

His more recent public stance in this area is illustrated by the section "It's all a Zionist scam" in his 2005 article "Dealing with Peak Oil Criticisms". The BNP currently has a Jewish councillor, Patricia Richardson, and has stated that it has Jewish members.[9]"

Seriously....No one at this site, except your buddies at stormfront (who asked you to come here) really wants to hear your dribble. You folks just need to find another place to try your little recruiting experiment. The people here for the most part....dont like your message, and dont want your company.....just go away, and find a new place to poison.

 

[candiate]

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So...he isnt a racist, and there is no basis for his imprisonment, Yet he knows this Guy:

"Griffin has a history of Holocaust denial and has in the past made anti-Semitic remarks.

In issue 11 of the BNP publication The Rune (see above) he called the Holocaust "the Holohoax" and criticised the Holocaust denier David Irving for admitting in an interview that some Jews might have died in the Holocaust. Griffin wrote: "True Revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century." [4][5][6] Griffin was eventually prosecuted for his articles in The Rune (see below).

In 1997 he told an undercover journalist that he had updated Richard Verrall's Holocaust denial book Did Six Million Really Die?. He also described his former MP, Alex Carlile, QC, who had reported The Rune to the police, as "this bloody Jew... whose only claim is that his grandparents died in the Holocaust."[3]

In the same year he wrote a pamphlet, "Who Are The Mindbenders", which alleged that a cabal of Jews controlled the British media, "providing us with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexual, anti-British trash." [7]

In his defence during his 1998 prosecution (see below), Griffin said: "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat ... I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria."[8]

His more recent public stance in this area is illustrated by the section "It's all a Zionist scam" in his 2005 article "Dealing with Peak Oil Criticisms". The BNP currently has a Jewish councillor, Patricia Richardson, and has stated that it has Jewish members.[9]"

Seriously....No one at this site, except your buddies at stormfront (who asked you to come here) really wants to hear your dribble. You folks just need to find another place to try your little recruiting experiment. The people here for the most part....dont like your message, and dont want your company.....just go away, and find a new place to poison.

Ah! so those of the land of the free were free speech is written into a constitution denie that same right to others because they have different political views???? how does that work then.
Kevin is a political prisoner, in prison for his beliefs you should support him.

 

[tecoyah]

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Ah! so those of the land of the free were free speech is written into a constitution denie that same right to others because they have different political views???? how does that work then.
Kevin is a political prisoner, in prison for his beliefs you should support him.

For a reverse lesson on the definition of free speech, I would recommend you go back where you came from and look at the little forum you folks have for....Dissenting Views. While there, please pay attention to the Ban ratio of those who come to stormfront to express dissatisfaction with the prevailing mindset. Then look at the similar ratio here.
Generally this site does not Ban for opinion, but there are....Ways to ASK you to go somewhere else. Face it....we know why you come here, and it is time we put a stop to it. Likely there will be some support to my statement, as I think many here are just as tired of the attempted infiltration as I am.

We are here to Debate Politics.....not listen to ignorance.

 

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For a reverse lesson on the definition of free speech, I would recommend you go back where you came from and look at the little forum you folks have for....Dissenting Views. While there, please pay attention to the Ban ratio of those who come to stormfront to express dissatisfaction with the prevailing mindset. Then look at the similar ratio here.
Generally this site does not Ban for opinion, but there are....Ways to ASK you to go somewhere else. Face it....we know why you come here, and it is time we put a stop to it. Likely there will be some support to my statement, as I think many here are just as tired of the attempted infiltration as I am.

We are here to Debate Politics.....not listen to ignorance.

Then debate this:_
GW Bush the most dangerous idiot in the world on an oil expedition around the world.
Or debate this:-
GW Bush going round the world killing terrorist and those who finance them, for 30 years my people, British people, were bombed and shot by the IRA who were financed by the US group norad and the Boston Irish among others, is this not double standards, or is it just because america has been attached that they feel they must become the worlds policeman "that nobody wants"

 

[Red_Dave]

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Then debate this:_
GW Bush the most dangerous idiot in the world on an oil expedition around the world.
Or debate this:-
GW Bush going round the world killing terrorist and those who finance them, for 30 years my people, British people, were bombed and shot by the IRA who were financed by the US group norad and the Boston Irish among others, is this not double standards, or is it just because america has been attached that they feel they must become the worlds policeman "that nobody wants"

Personally i cant see how anyonw in the Brittish National Party can not be racist when the party is releated to the National Front [ a facist party]. Enough smoke screens

 

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Personally i cant see how anyonw in the Brittish National Party can not be racist when the party is releated to the National Front [ a facist party]. Enough smoke screens

As a party offical I can tell you that the NF is a proscribed organisation. BNP members are banned from contact with them:ranton:

 

[Red_Dave]

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As a party offical I can tell you that the NF is a proscribed organisation. BNP members are banned from contact with them:ranton:

Tsk what did i tell you about smoke screens:roll: Thats not enough to whitewash your history and you know it. The BNP is a direct offshoot of the National Front so you can hardly denny its members are likely to be racist. Look at nick griffins background.

 

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Tsk what did i tell you about smoke screens:roll: Thats not enough to whitewash your history and you know it. The BNP is a direct offshoot of the National Front so you can hardly denny its members are likely to be racist. Look at nick griffins background.

Firstly Nick is a personal friend of mine so I know that he used to be a member of the NF. The OLD NF were villified by the system and subjected to media lies and smears.
However what I said above is still true, it was Nick that proscribed the NF.
To be honest I accept the old NF connection but that is what it is OLD.
All groups, parties, political groupings,even businesses, ie the slave industry,move on, things change, attitudes change, we evolve. The BNP is now, having evolved, become electable, we are now the forth political party in the UK. This has only been achieved by bringing about a real change within the party. I assure you that this is NOT window dressing, nor as you put it a "smoke screen".
If the BNP was racist, I for one would not be a member nor would anyone I know.
The term racist, means to hate another race. "I HATE NO ONE".
If the party was indeed racist then it would be closed down. The term racist is another media tag line,lie and a smear, perpetuated by those on the left unable to debate the truth, unwilling to listen and unable to draw public support for their views in open elections.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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As a party offical I can tell you that the NF is a proscribed organisation. BNP members are banned from contact with them:ranton:

Really? Then why was your friend Nick joining French National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen at a fund-raising dinner in 2004?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3654941.stm

What did the BNP do about this breach? Ban him?

 

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Really? Then why was your friend Nick joining French National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen at a fund-raising dinner in 2004?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3654941.stm

What did the BNP do about this breach? Ban him?

Could it be that the "front National" is a French nationalist political party, and the National Front is British. Therefore he was meeting with a North European nationalist leader, don't forget we are all under the MUSLIM threat here in europe.
The Front National are even big enough for their leader Jean-Marie Le Pen to challenge for the president of France, they have MP's and Meps' they have been elected.
Now UNLIKE GW who fiddled his election they did not.
It seems to me that the vast majority of posters on this board "TALK" a good "TALK" when it comes to politics. How many of you have the guts to stand for election?
I have stood 5 times, one of those times standing in the actual area were the London bombers lived, "although I did not know it at the time" however it was still a majority muslim area.
I have stood up to the plate, have any of you? would any of you?.
Your attitude depreses me, as it appears to me that you are all devoid of argument leaving only the trading of insults. Some politicans EH!

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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Could it be that the "front National" is a French nationalist political party, and the National Front is British. Therefore he was meeting with a North European nationalist leader, don't forget we are all under the MUSLIM threat here in europe.
The Front National are even big enough for their leader Jean-Marie Le Pen to challenge for the president of France, they have MP's and Meps' they have been elected.
Now UNLIKE GW who fiddled his election they did not.
It seems to me that the vast majority of posters on this board "TALK" a good "TALK" when it comes to politics. How many of you have the guts to stand for election?
I have stood 5 times, one of those times standing in the actual area were the London bombers lived, "although I did not know it at the time" however it was still a majority muslim area.
I have stood up to the plate, have any of you? would any of you?.
Your attitude depreses me, as it appears to me that you are all devoid of argument leaving only the trading of insults. Some politicans EH!

I do not see how I insulted you. I asked a reasonable question. Yes the French National Front (also called The Front National) is not the same organization as the Brittish National Front. However, the policies of each are very similar and have similar goals. Since this is the case, shouldn't Nick Griffen also ban contact with this French organization who's views are so consistent with the organization that he has distanced himself from?

 

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I do not see how I insulted you. I asked a reasonable question. Yes the French National Front (also called The Front National) is not the same organization as the Brittish National Front. However, the policies of each are very similar and have similar goals. Since this is the case, shouldn't Nick Griffen also ban contact with this French organization who's views are so consistent with the organization that he has distanced himself from?

I did not imply that you did insult me did I.

The Front National as with all National parties only have the survival of that nation at heart.
The BNP is of course the same, we are fighting to preserve our very traditions, heritage and culture from an Islamic invasion. France is no different, in fact with over 35 weeks of street riots in French towns and cities it even worse over there.
As I posted before the NF in the UK and of course the FN in France have evolved from their beginings, they have refined their message as do all political movements and parties.
Yes Le Pen wants rid of asylum seekers just as we do. They are a strain on our finances, health system and commit so much more crime per head than the indiginous people of our lands do. They do not/will not inetrgrate with the majority population but seek in every way to undermine us. In fact this lefty government have even brought in laws to protect these asylum seekers, laws that do not cover us nor protect US.
To be Pro-White is not to be anti-anybody is it. To be Pro-British or Pro-French is not to be anti-other countries is it. If you will allow me to explain it this way sorry about the lenght of this post:-

If there was no immigration, nor any enrichers in our country then there would be NO racism.
Racism is a natural response to being forced to live with aliens. It is understandable when you consider that the home population are being forced to accept alien cultures, music, food, religion, tradition, language, lifestyles, cloths, laws, attitudes and positive discrimination all against their will.
The anti-racism laws are only there to make the whole multi-culti failed experiment work, as the system knows it has created a monster that is intent on killing its host.
Groups, tribes, cultures and all defined peoples have always thought of themselves as being better/superior to other groups it is natural to think so, in fact, not to think so would destroy these defined groups as it would lead to members of that group leaving to join another group and to the cross breeding of cultures and races, therefore destroying the original defined group.
Racism is as an insult is wrong. However as a normal thought process I would argue that it is ingrained within us.
Every defined group has the right to decide its own destiny, the right to be proud of its music, food, religion, tradition, language, lifestyles, cloths, laws, attitudes and yes its culture.
However NO defined group has the right to impose these defined values on another defined group.
When this is done, when a tratiotist system complies to force these changes on its people then those people will rebel and in the end for their very own survival must defeat the system.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

You bring up some interesting points. I can address them better when I am less sleep deprived. :yawn: One question, though: how would you define racism and in what context does that affect your interactions with others (alright, 2 questions)?:smile:

 

[candiate]

You bring up some interesting points. I can address them better when I am less sleep deprived. :yawn: One question, though: how would you define racism and in what context does that affect your interactions with others (alright, 2 questions)?:smile:

I would define racism in its reported media sense as a hate reaction to another person based on race, colour,creed etc. I have a problem with the word here in the UK, as yes there are racist in every walk of life and in EVERY political party, there will always be a bad apple in the barrel. However here the word racist is only ever used when a crime has been committed against a non-white, this crime might have NOTHING to do with racism at all but the victim will claim a racial aspect. At that point the system goes overboard to hunt down the nasy rasicts. "I say if it was a racist crime then hit them hard with the letter of the law".
However it is now so bad with the ethnic playing the "race card" over here that even the police are afraid to stop and search them as THEY will be accused of being racist.

The point is that when a crime is committed by an ethnic against a white, the racist card can not be played, nor can a racial aspect be attached to this crime as here racism is only crimes against non whites. The media will not even report these crimes leave alone attach the racism tag to them.

I believe as does Nick Griffin by the way, that ALL people of different race have a God given right to exist, to enjoy and protect their culture, traditions, heritage, language etc.
I used to own a European express company, we used to deliver goods all over western and eastern Europe, I really enjoyed experiencing different cultures, their foods, their language and even using different currencys. However it is a totally different matter when those different races are here and I am being asked to change my culture and traditions to suit them, its my country they should respect our laws and rules as I do theirs.
But these people are not European they are asian with no connection to Europe at all.
To finish I will give you two examples of how we are being made to change to accomodate these new commers.
1. Many cities across the UK have "banned Christmas lights" and the words "merry Christmas" so as not to ofend muslims, its now called "winter fest".
2.Muslims can get from British banks, a Sharia law "interest free mortgage" commercial or private. White Christains can not-yhats very wrong.
Sleep well I look forward to our next chat

 

[Jay R]

Could you post some other source of evidence than the BNP's own propaganda? It's hardly a model of impartiality is it? I can decide if he's a political prisoner or just another ignorant loudmouth on my own judgement thank you very much.

 

[candiate]

Could you post some other source of evidence than the BNP's own propaganda? It's hardly a model of impartiality is it? I can decide if he's a political prisoner or just another ignorant loudmouth on my own judgement thank you very much.

Well JR, now thats a question "post some other source" now were would I find that, the national newspapers, no they will not cover the story, the TV stations, no they will not cover the story, so were I ask you do I get this other source from. From what you have said I asume that you did NOT even know about Kevin until I posted about him, otherwise you would have your "other source".
Why not write and ask him yourself tell him you were talking to me if you want. If you do write to him please include an sae with two A$ lined sheets of paper and write your name and address on the back of the outside envelope.

Mr. Kevin Hughes
Political Prisoner XB4290
HMP Featherstone
New Road
Featherstone
Wolverhampton
WV10 7PU

 

[Jay R]

That damn media, it's a conspiracy against you guys right?:lol:

I find the mainstream media has come around to be reasonably condemnatory of the state of the country myself, and criticising apparent special treatment immigrants vis a vis the lot of naturalised Brits is selling papers, particularly tabloids. If your friend isn't receiving coverage that would lead me to believe that his case isn't quite the miscarriage of justice you have me believe.

I've no interest in acquiring a prison pen-pal, thanks all the same. Tell you what, if I have to do the sleuthing for the story why don't you give me the details of his case and I'll write to the relevant Police Authority for the case reports and court papers. It'll give me a chance to exercise my rights under the Freedom of Information Act.

 

[candiate]

That damn media, it's a conspiracy against you guys right?:lol:

I find the mainstream media has come around to be reasonably condemnatory of the state of the country myself, and criticising apparent special treatment immigrants vis a vis the lot of naturalised Brits is selling papers, particularly tabloids. If your friend isn't receiving coverage that would lead me to believe that his case isn't quite the miscarriage of justice you have me believe.

I've no interest in acquiring a prison pen-pal, thanks all the same. Tell you what, if I have to do the sleuthing for the story why don't you give me the details of his case and I'll write to the relevant Police Authority for the case reports and court papers. It'll give me a chance to exercise my rights under the Freedom of Information Act.

The FOIA eh! well I have already done that mate. Kevin was arrested by Reditch police West Midlands but as it was over 18 months ago I don't have the exact details etc. however we will see what the FOIA reply brings.

 

[cherokee]

QUESTION
WHAT IS AN IRAQI DOING IN A BRITISH PUB
WHEN BRITISH SOLDIERS ARE IN IRAQ?

Kevin Hughes British National Party Organiser has been imprisoned for an alleged racially aggravated assault on an Iraqi asylum seeker. Despite there being no injuries, no evidence and no witnesses the jury believed the words of a twice failed asylum seeker who spoke in court through an interpreter claiming he was unable to speak any English.
We ask all those who believe in justice to question this sentence. WE urge you to call the prison, to write to the prison, to demand that the prison exercise their “duty of care” to Kevin.
Full details are available at the link below.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1024

Thank You

Tom Linden
BNP Organiser

Excuse me.....Hello...Anybody home? …Hello...
I'll send kevin a file in a cake so that he may break out or file his nails..........:mrgreen:

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Well JR, now thats a question "post some other source" now were would I find that, the national newspapers, no they will not cover the story, the TV stations, no they will not cover the story, so were I ask you do I get this other source from.

Actually, I have found this to be true. Odd. By no means do I believe that my search was 'exhaustive', but checked several search engines and found nothing from the mainstream media, other than a very brief blurb on an anti-BNP website. Reading BNP's agenda, I don't want to state a stance as I'm from the U.S. and know little of what it's like in the UK other than what I read.

Here in the U.S., to be 'Pro-White' is often expressed in a racist, supremacist way. Often the problem with the movement is this; not the term White Pride, just the way it is expressed. It is impossible for these people to gain any kind of real, legitimate following because of the hate-filled, dominating, discourteous, way they present themselves. In my view, extremist Black Pride is similar, as are supremacist views by any race, creed, or religion.

In the way that you have defined racism, however, I do not believe most are racist. All races, creeds, and religions have 'em, but, in my expereince, most don't hate others because of their ethnicity, or hate an ethnicity in general.

If there was no immigration, nor any enrichers in our country then there would be NO racism.

Don't agree. Instead you would create xenophobia. Racism would exist with or without immigration. Racism is more of a learned behavior than a response to the acts of other groups. It's also about fear.

Racism is a natural response to being forced to live with aliens. It is understandable when you consider that the home population are being forced to accept alien cultures, music, food, religion, tradition, language, lifestyles, cloths, laws, attitudes and positive discrimination all against their will.

Again. living in the U.S., I don't feel 'forced' to accept anything from another culture. What's it like in the UK?

Groups, tribes, cultures and all defined peoples have always thought of themselves as being better/superior to other groups it is natural to think so, in fact, not to think so would destroy these defined groups as it would lead to members of that group leaving to join another group and to the cross breeding of cultures and races, therefore destroying the original defined group.

For arguments sake, let's say this premise is correct. Thinking of yourself as better doesn't mean acting on that by degrading others. Thoughts and behaviors are different. Convergence often breeds a stronger group.

Every defined group has the right to decide its own destiny, the right to be proud of its music, food, religion, tradition, language, lifestyles, cloths, laws, attitudes and yes its culture.
However NO defined group has the right to impose these defined values on another defined group.

I agree.

By the way, you didn't answer my original question. How does Nick Griffin justify his association with the French Front National considering they hold the same views and are closely associated with a group he has banned members of the BNP from having contact with?

 

[candiate]

Actually, I have found this to be true. Odd. By no means do I believe that my search was 'exhaustive', but checked several search engines and found nothing from the mainstream media, other than a very brief blurb on an anti-BNP website. Reading BNP's agenda, I don't want to state a stance as I'm from the U.S. and know little of what it's like in the UK other than what I read.

Here in the U.S., to be 'Pro-White' is often expressed in a racist, supremacist way. Often the problem with the movement is this; not the term White Pride, just the way it is expressed. It is impossible for these people to gain any kind of real, legitimate following because of the hate-filled, dominating, discourteous, way they present themselves. In my view, extremist Black Pride is similar, as are supremacist views by any race, creed, or religion.

In the way that you have defined racism, however, I do not believe most are racist. All races, creeds, and religions have 'em, but, in my expereince, most don't hate others because of their ethnicity, or hate an ethnicity in general.


Don't agree. Instead you would create xenophobia. Racism would exist with or without immigration. Racism is more of a learned behavior than a response to the acts of other groups. It's also about fear.


Again. living in the U.S., I don't feel 'forced' to accept anything from another culture. What's it like in the UK?


For arguments sake, let's say this premise is correct. Thinking of yourself as better doesn't mean acting on that by degrading others. Thoughts and behaviors are different. Convergence often breeds a stronger group.


I agree.

By the way, you didn't answer my original question. How does Nick Griffin justify his association with the French Front National considering they hold the same views and are closely associated with a group he has banned members of the BNP from having contact with?

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Don't agree. Instead you would create xenophobia. Racism would exist with or without immigration. Racism is more of a learned behavior than a response to the acts of other groups. It's also about fear.

Your correct it is about fear, these people live among us and they have bombed us and over 200,000 in a recent poll said they agreeed with the attacks.
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Again. living in the U.S., I don't feel 'forced' to accept anything from another culture. What's it like in the UK?

Well firstly, and I might be wrong but most of the incommers to the USA are eithen European or South American. ie. they in their own areas seem not to be out of place. In the UK the majority of incommers are from a totally different continent, they come mainly from Asia and they do seem to be out of place.
Even now the government is spending over 5m each year to teach "second generation" asian children how to "speak English". Surely after 2 generations this should not be neccessary. I used the word forced because every day we are forced to accept a disproportionate amount of black and asian faces on our TV's, every programme has token asians and blacks. Our couturs and tradition is being changed to accommodate them. eg. Christmas,some firms ban Christmas card so as not to upset muslims, muslim women wear burka's while driving,this is very dangerous because of the lack of visibility, but its allowed. Local social housing is now set aside for incommers so local people dip out.
Its very difficult to describe how we are being forced to change as its in every level of our lives.
There are NO-GO areas in our cities were even the police will not go.
Most gun crime is black on black according to the Met. police boss.

 

[candiate]

Quote:-
Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy
Really? Then why was your friend Nick joining French National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen at a fund-raising dinner in 2004?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3654941.stm

What did the BNP do about this breach? Ban him?

Firstly "breach" breach of what, it is the NF that is proscribed not the FN. The FN is a kindred group of nationalist north European people under the same islamic threat as we are in the UK therefore it makes great sense to develope relations with them. The islamic threat is aimed at every non-islamic country and with our governments lax immigration policies Britain and France are both feeling the unslaught.

 

[candiate]

Actually, I have found this to be true. Odd. By no means do I believe that my search was 'exhaustive', but checked several search engines and found nothing from the mainstream media, other than a very brief blurb on an anti-BNP website. Reading BNP's agenda, I don't want to state a stance as I'm from the U.S. and know little of what it's like in the UK other than what I read.

Here in the U.S., to be 'Pro-White' is often expressed in a racist, supremacist way. Often the problem with the movement is this; not the term White Pride, just the way it is expressed. It is impossible for these people to gain any kind of real, legitimate following because of the hate-filled, dominating, discourteous, way they present themselves. In my view, extremist Black Pride is similar, as are supremacist views by any race, creed, or religion.

In the way that you have defined racism, however, I do not believe most are racist. All races, creeds, and religions have 'em, but, in my expereince, most don't hate others because of their ethnicity, or hate an ethnicity in general.


Don't agree. Instead you would create xenophobia. Racism would exist with or without immigration. Racism is more of a learned behavior than a response to the acts of other groups. It's also about fear.


Again. living in the U.S., I don't feel 'forced' to accept anything from another culture. What's it like in the UK?


For arguments sake, let's say this premise is correct. Thinking of yourself as better doesn't mean acting on that by degrading others. Thoughts and behaviors are different. Convergence often breeds a stronger group.


I agree.

By the way, you didn't answer my original question. How does Nick Griffin justify his association with the French Front National considering they hold the same views and are closely associated with a group he has banned members of the BNP from having contact with?

One in ten people living in Britain today was born overseas, figures reveal.
They show how Labour's opendoor immigration policy has changed the country's make-up dramatically.

Since the party came to power in 1997, the number of those born overseas who live here has rocketed by 1,690,000 - up 42 per cent.

The total now stands at 5,699,000, or 10 per cent of the population. During last year alone, the increase was 405,000.

The figures - which run to the end of 2005 - are larger than any previous estimate, but may still hugely understate the true situation.

They do not include up to 570,000 illegal immigrants who have entered the country undetected by the authorities.

Nor do they take into account an estimated 300,000 Eastern Europeans who have flocked here this year.

Last year's increase of 405,000 was largely due to the influx of hundreds of thousands of workers from the former Eastern Bloc, granted free movement since the expansion of the EU on May 1, 2004.

Next year, they will be joined by up to 150,000 plus Romanians and Bulgarians - boosting the overseas-born population still further.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Well firstly, and I might be wrong but most of the incommers to the USA are eithen European or South American. ie. they in their own areas seem not to be out of place.

Hmmm...I suppose I agree, somewhat, though there is a large influx of Asians and East Indians. My expereince is that most integrate well if they want to. Similar to what you've said happens in the UK, those that don't learn English, tend not to. I don't have a problem with assisting them to assimilate; I do have an issue with illegals (they're illegal) and if I am forced to assimilate to them in my country. I do not feel like I have had to do that.

I used the word forced because every day we are forced to accept a disproportionate amount of black and asian faces on our TV's, every programme has token asians and blacks.

The first part of this sentance doesn't bother me at all. What I see on my TV represents the culture I live in...white, black, yellow, and brown. What I see on TV echoes what I see in my real life. If it bothered me, I could always change the channel. As for the second part of the sentance, I used to observe that at times on shows 10-20 years ago. Not now.

Our couturs and tradition is being changed to accommodate them. eg. Christmas,some firms ban Christmas card so as not to upset muslims,

In the U.S., because of our multiculturistic society and because of the pluralism of religions, many companies send out 'holiday' or 'season's greetings' cards. I agree with this, not because I don't want to upset other religions, but it shows the same kind of respect for them that I expect for myself. For someone who doesn't know my religion, I prefer 'happy holidays'. Actually, 'enjoy the season' is better...I could be an athiest. I can't remember ever having a problem with this issue. In the U.S., I rarely hear of problems around the issue. Most people are accomodating to get the same kind of accomdations back. Mostly, it works.