Political correctness is precisely the attempt by non-government authorities to act in ways that would violate the First Amendment if attempted by the government.
Incorrect. Political correctness is the attempt to silence those things from even being said.
Are you claiming that non-physical intimidation is not, and cannot, be real?Unless you come over here and physically bound and gag me you can't silence me from saying something.
Commonly held definitions like the inferiority of some races, that gays molest children, and the stupidity of women.
Are you claiming that non-physical intimidation is not, and cannot, be real?
The only intimidation I would acknowledge is the illegal kind. "Shut your mouth or I kill you" is a criminal threat. Barring something like that, what you're talking about is the fear of some kind of social backlash for breaking commonly held social norms. That's life, and to think there has ever been any other way is foolish.
You choose to hide your head in the sand. Noted.
Your comprehension is usually better than this. I never said, nor did I imply, there was never backlash.Please. Tell me of this magical land where you can say anything that breaks social norms with zero social backlash. I'd like to see this place first hand.
Your comprehension is usually better than this. I never said, nor did I imply, there was never backlash.
You said, however, that you choose to recognize only illegal backlash, which confirms that you know other kinds do indeed exist.
My comment was to acknowledge that you choose to not acknowledge the other kinds.
Oh, that's right, you're on the pc = etiquette bandwagon. I forgot. I debunked that pages ago in this thread.By saying what I acknowledge, I'm referring to the type of backlash that can be reasonably addressed (the criminal kind). It's pointless to complain about non-criminal social backlash for speaking outside of social mores. That is never going away. Ever.
Let's use the gay pizza incident which conveniently presented both examples:
The pizza owner said he'd refuse to cater gay weddings (because apparently pizza is a huge thing at weddings, but whatever). There were two distinct reactions relevant to this thread:
1)Social backlash calling the business owner a bigot.
2)That one woman who threatened to burn down the business.
One of those reactions will reasonably have to be predicted as the business owner was publicly airing a policy that existed outside of social mores. The other reaction was criminal and therefore need not be tolerated.
Ultimately, the term "political correctness" is nothing more than a repackaging of modern etiquette by people who still want to live by their own obsolete social mores.
Here is a little synopsis of political correctness, its purposes, the main characters, mostly Marxists associated with the "Frankfurt School," responsible for popularizing it, and some of the means they have used to do that. I am no great admirer of this journal or the author, but I think anyone who wants to research the claims in this article will find they are accurate.
The Roots of Political Correctness | The American Conservative
Oh, that's right, you're on the pc = etiquette bandwagon. I forgot. I debunked that pages ago in this thread.
Yes and it's a disease.
How could it have originated with Marxism? Before Marxism, say a person just announced to a room full of people that they like to rape and beat their neighbor's children. Is your contention everybody would have just acted like that was an acceptable thing to say? If not, then "political correctness" predated Marxism, right?
Here is a little synopsis of political correctness, its purposes, the main characters, mostly Marxists associated with the "Frankfurt School," responsible for popularizing it, and some of the means they have used to do that. I am no great admirer of this journal or the author, but I think anyone who wants to research the claims in this article will find they are accurate.
The Roots of Political Correctness | The American Conservative
None of that is evidence that the doctrine of political correctness was not developed and popularized by communists. If you want to argue that something in that article is inaccurate, refute it with specific facts.
Glad you're on board now.You should have led with that. I never would have attempted to claim pc = etiquette if you had told me you already debunked it.
Interesting theory, and I can agree that this is one impetus...but I don't think it's the only one.
I'm still enjoying "intellectual Soylent Green."
That just doesn't match the way people use the phrase at all.
It doesn't prevent anything... what it is, is the socially acceptable language of any given period.
Political Correctness has always been with us in one way or another.
in 1960 - Absolutely unacceptable to be gay.
in 2015 - Not so cool to go and call someone a faggot
In 1950 - highly ill advised to admit one was a communist
in 2015 - Who. ****ing. Cares.
Political Correctness is just people being pissed off it isn't as mainstream to say certain things anymore but you can absolutely say them... it just means more people may not want to associate with you after you say them in every circumstance above I just listed.
Pretty darn simple stuff.
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