Police vs. armed hiker... You make the call

[Phil_Osophy]

The reason for the actual practice may be the practical necessity for the Nation-wide State Ordinances because on the State level it was obvious that the particular State Ordinances met the needs of the citizenry.

Sorry if this ruffles the feathers of the Looney Left flopping around in La La Land.

It all boils down to liberty vs security. We live in an ahe where you can be stopped and questioned for exercising a constitutional right.

 

[YoungConserv]

Because as long as a person is on a public road they are absolutely 100% safe for which no firearm ever needed? In fact, if a person ever feel in danger in your house just run out to the public street as no crime ever happens there. Being in public is the safest place to be?

That seems your point, that it "makes absolutely no sense" to have a firearm in public. So I gather you have decided against wanting a CCW permit? Or that you want one, but want would-be assailants to believe you are defenseless?

It has ALWAYS been legal in Texas to openly carry are rifle or shotgun. The officers know that. Texas is OPEN CARRY for rifles and shotguns. Always has been. This happened in Texas, not Illinois. It is due to that thuggery of officers who don't like that right in Texas that is the reason people don't. Officers just make up laws to arrest people legally openly carrying a rifle or shotgun. Most police officers only want themselves armed - because they really have no reason to care if anyone else is assaulted, raped or killed. They care about their safety - at the expense of everyone else - and openly violate laws and make false arrests to do so.

Carrying a rifle or shotgun is the best way to suggest you are not an easy target for robbery or assault. It also is legal to shoot all but protected animals in Texas - such as rabbits, squirrels, possums, racoons, most wild birds etc. It also is legal to shoot cans or just about anything else along the way such as he or his son wished if they decided to. Or maybe you want hunting outlawed - and since it isn't - you want officers to just create that law. When that officer stopped he knew, 100%, that man carrying the rifle was breaking no law whatsoever. None.

Sometimes you moan about all the anti-gun attitudes in Illinois. You really shouldn't, Maggie. There is a reason Illinois has such laws and states like Texas doesn't. Texas is the most gun-friendly state in the country. All gun-folks know that. The fight against gun control always is most waged there. Illinois is a gun-control-freaks state.

Do you really think what you wrote? Would YOU feel perfectly safe walking along a remote section of a state highway in Illinois with a teenager? It would seem that you would.

Yeah, in Illinois it would be illegal. It Illinois the requirement was for him to expose both of them to being robbed and killed, or drive-by defenselessly shot. He wasn't in Illinois.

It actually makes sense in those context especially when there are feral hogs all over Texas and they are extremely dangerous.

 

[YoungConserv]

He reacted from instinct. Knowing what we know now, I think you're right. But when you want to make sure you get home in one piece after your shift? Sometimes you over-react when a firearm is involved. And people out there playing damned "gotcha' games"? Ought to be horse whipped.

So did the hiker.

 

[HoongLoong]

It all boils down to liberty vs security. We live in an ahe where you can be stopped and questioned for exercising a constitutional right.

What's the good of being free to get killed ?

Obviously the citizenry feels that it's worth to curtail a little of basically meaningless "freedom" to sashay around with a gun......which you can immediately get back if everything is hunky dory than being killed and/or wounded by a whackjob. Remote as it may be.

 

[Phil_Osophy]

What's the good of being free to get killed ?

Obviously the citizenry feels that it's worth to curtail a little of basically meaningless "freedom" to sashay around with a gun......which you can immediately get back if everything is hunky dory than being killed and/or wounded by a whackjob. Remote as it may be.

And permits dont stop whackjobs from packing and hurting people. So why make law abiding citizens jump through hoops for a false sense of security?

 

[HoongLoong]

And permits dont stop whackjobs from packing and hurting people. So why make law abiding citizens jump through hoops for a false sense of security?

There isn't any fool proof defense against crazies. Never has been.......and, probably never will be.

HOWEVER.......there are ALWAYS ways to MINIMIZE the danger even from the unpredictable actions of the crazies.

For instance, getting a background check when issuing permits. If the dude has been hospitalized as a whackjob......he doesn't get the permit.

Admittedly, some whackjobs don't have a "record" of being a whackjob. So this particular method of minimizing the action of crazies isn't perfect. HOWEVER IT STILL MINIMIZES THE PROBLEM......and, probably the majority of the citizenry would be willing to have this as one of the precautionary measures. If so, then make it as "one of the hoops one has to jump through". If not.....then don't.

mingbai ma ?

 

[Phil_Osophy]

There isn't any fool proof defense against crazies. Never has been.......and, probably never will be.

HOWEVER.......there are ALWAYS ways to MINIMIZE the danger even from the unpredictable actions of the crazies.

For instance, getting a background check when issuing permits. If the dude has been hospitalized as a whackjob......he doesn't get the permit.

Admittedly, some whackjobs don't have a "record" of being a whackjob. So this particular method of minimizing the action of crazies isn't perfect. HOWEVER IT STILL MINIMIZES THE PROBLEM......and, probably the majority of the citizenry would be willing to have this as one of the precautionary measures. If so, then make it as "one of the hoops one has to jump through". If not.....then don't.

mingbai ma ?

What makes you think whackjobs care about getting a permit? They just pack anyway.

 

[HoongLoong]

What makes you think whackjobs care about getting a permit? They just pack anyway.

In districts where carrying a gun requires a permit, one can apprehend the whackjob with gun without a permit. My guess is that, in general, whackjobs don't care about getting a permit.