Polar Bears Are Thriving

[Robertinfremont]

International Polar Bear Day: a time to admit the species is not threatened with extinction due to reduced sea ice habitat

Posted on February 26, 2019 | Comments Offon International Polar Bear Day: a time to admit the species is not threatened with extinction due to reduced sea ice habitat
Times have changed: where once many scientists worried that polar bears could not survive an Arctic with 40% less ice, now the concern is that people of the Arctic might not be able to keep themselves safe from growing numbers of increasingly fearless bears. . . .

Nobody seems to care about the seal population for what appears to be a rather odd reason.

 

[Threegoofs]

REFERENCES
Amstrup, S.C., Marcot, B.G. & Douglas, D.C. 2007. Forecasting the rangewide status of polar bears at selected times in the 21st century. US Geological Survey. Reston, VA. Pdf here

Crockford, S.J. 2017. Testing the hypothesis that routine sea ice coverage of 3-5 mkm2 results in a greater than 30% decline in population size of polar bears (Ursus maritimus). PeerJ Preprints 2 March 2017. Doi: 10.7287/peerj.preprints.2737v3 Open access. https://peerj.com/preprints/2737/

Crockford, S.J. 2019. The Polar Bear Catastrophe That Never Happened. Global Warming Policy Foundation, London. Available in paperback and ebook formats.

Regehr, E.V., Laidre, K.L, Akçakaya, H.R., Amstrup, S.C., Atwood, T.C., Lunn, N.J., Obbard, M., Stern, H., Thiemann, G.W., & Wiig, Ø. 2016. Conservation status of polar bears (Ursus maritimus) in relation to projected sea-ice declines. Biology Letters 12: 20160556. http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/12/12/20160556

Wiig, Ø., Born, E.W., and Garner, G.W. (eds.) 1995. Polar Bears: Proceedings of the 11th working meeting of the IUCN/SSC Polar Bear Specialists Group, 25-27 January, 1993, Copenhagen, Denmark. Gland, Switzerland and Cambridge UK, IUCN. http://pbsg.npolar.no/en/meetings/

Wiig, Ø., Amstrup, S., Atwood, T., Laidre, K., Lunn, N., Obbard, M., et al. 2015. Ursus maritimus. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2015: e.T22823A14871490. Available from http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/22823/0 [accessed Nov. 28, 2015]. See the supplement for population figures.

Yeah? And they say what, exactly?

you dont know because you never read them, and even if you did, you would t understand them.
And citing non peer reviewed ‘research’ and books published by a political press is... less than convincing.

 

[Jack Hays]

Nobody seems to care about the seal population for what appears to be a rather odd reason.

Seals are not a threatened species, despite being on the menu for sharks as well as polar bears.

 

[Robertinfremont]

And we bless the polar bears with our GARBAGE DUMPS to help them thrive!

Truly mankind is the gift that keeps giving.

Should the Bears be shot or trapped or poisoned at garbage dumps?

 

[Jack Hays]

Yeah? And they say what, exactly?

you dont know because you never read them, and even if you did, you would t understand them.
And citing non peer reviewed ‘research’ and books published by a political press is... less than convincing.

I don't think you understood what was on the list.

 

[Jack Hays]

Should the Bears be shot or trapped or poisoned at garbage dumps?

Sadly, the solution is to shoot them.

Polar bears walking the streets on Novaya Zemlya are habituated garbage bears, not victims of climate change

Posted on February 14, 2019 | Comments Offon Polar bears walking the streets on Novaya Zemlya are habituated garbage bears, not victims of climate change
What a bunch of sensationalist claptrap about the polar bears on Novaya Zemlya but I guess it sells papers and raises donations (WWF and PBI, I mean you).1

Seriously, if the bears were coming for us, people in Belushaya Guba would have died already, probably EATEN. These particular bears know there is stored food and refuse available that does not come packaged in human form and they know from experience that humans won’t hurt them. As I pointed out in my last post, these bears have known this since early December, when they chose to stay on land over the winter and ignored the sea ice when it arrived.
Lack of sea ice is not the problem here. These are habituated garbage bears that are no longer safe to have around: the responsible option is to shoot them. It’s harsh, I know, but the population will recover from the loss. . . .

 

[istodolez]

Should the Bears be shot or trapped or poisoned at garbage dumps?

Here's an idea: maybe it's a sign of something wrong when top predators are living off of our GARBAGE.

 

[istodolez]

Sadly, the solution is to shoot them.

Polar bears walking the streets on Novaya Zemlya are habituated garbage bears, not victims of climate change

Posted on February 14, 2019 | Comments Offon Polar bears walking the streets on Novaya Zemlya are habituated garbage bears, not victims of climate change
What a bunch of sensationalist claptrap about the polar bears on Novaya Zemlya but I guess it sells papers and raises donations (WWF and PBI, I mean you).1

Seriously, if the bears were coming for us, people in Belushaya Guba would have died already, probably EATEN. These particular bears know there is stored food and refuse available that does not come packaged in human form and they know from experience that humans won’t hurt them. As I pointed out in my last post, these bears have known this since early December, when they chose to stay on land over the winter and ignored the sea ice when it arrived.
Lack of sea ice is not the problem here. These are habituated garbage bears that are no longer safe to have around: the responsible option is to shoot them. It’s harsh, I know, but the population will recover from the loss. . . .

Novaya Zemlya....what a wonderful place! The Russians nuked the hell out of that place and, if I recall correctly, have utilized it as a massive dumping ground for spent nuclear reactors and nuclear subs.

Another sign of how well humans do with environmental stewardship.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Sadly, the solution is to shoot them.

Polar bears walking the streets on Novaya Zemlya are habituated garbage bears, not victims of climate change

Posted on February 14, 2019 | Comments Offon Polar bears walking the streets on Novaya Zemlya are habituated garbage bears, not victims of climate change
What a bunch of sensationalist claptrap about the polar bears on Novaya Zemlya but I guess it sells papers and raises donations (WWF and PBI, I mean you).1

Seriously, if the bears were coming for us, people in Belushaya Guba would have died already, probably EATEN. These particular bears know there is stored food and refuse available that does not come packaged in human form and they know from experience that humans won’t hurt them. As I pointed out in my last post, these bears have known this since early December, when they chose to stay on land over the winter and ignored the sea ice when it arrived.
Lack of sea ice is not the problem here. These are habituated garbage bears that are no longer safe to have around: the responsible option is to shoot them. It’s harsh, I know, but the population will recover from the loss. . . .

Americans won't be the shooters. The Russians have that job.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Here's an idea: maybe it's a sign of something wrong when top predators are living off of our GARBAGE.

Russian Garbage. So you do not want to answer the question. Okay then.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Novaya Zemlya....what a wonderful place! The Russians nuked the hell out of that place and, if I recall correctly, have utilized it as a massive dumping ground for spent nuclear reactors and nuclear subs.

Another sign of how well humans do with environmental stewardship.

Are the Russians short on Polar Bears? What about the seals that now get to live?

 

[istodolez]

Russian Garbage. So you do not want to answer the question. Okay then.

And Russians aren't human? Hmmmmmm......

 

[istodolez]

Are the Russians short on Polar Bears? What about the seals that now get to live?

I was just making another point about human pollution. Glad you missed it. If you had actually been tracking I'd be worried!

 

[Jack Hays]

Here's an idea: maybe it's a sign of something wrong when top predators are living off of our GARBAGE.

Actually normal. Been happening for as long as there have been bears and people.

 

[istodolez]

Actually normal. Been happening for as long as there have been bears and people.

So if I just go out into your front yard and toss my garbage and a family of racoons comes scurrying out to eat there you'd be OK? I mean the raccoons are doing what raccoons do all the time.

 

[Threegoofs]

I don't think you understood what was on the list.

I *know* you don’t understand what’s on the list.

copypasta.

 

[Jack Hays]

So if I just go out into your front yard and toss my garbage and a family of racoons comes scurrying out to eat there you'd be OK? I mean the raccoons are doing what raccoons do all the time.

I'm not sure what your point is. Raccoons, like bears, are great foragers and scavengers. So what?

 

[Jack Hays]

I *know* you don’t understand what’s on the list.

copypasta.

Sad to say, I think your urge to insult has overcome your reason.

 

[istodolez]

I'm not sure what your point is. Raccoons, like bears, are great foragers and scavengers. So what?

So you’d be ok with garbage in your yard.

 

[Jack Hays]

So you’d be ok with garbage in your yard.

No, I would not. I fail to see what that has to do with the topic.