Felicity said:
This is a silly game you're playing...whatever...:roll: You knew what was being discussed and the number of late abortions of a NONviable fetus are MINISCULE portion of an already small number of the 4,000 abortions performed every day in the United States.
The point is the JUSTIFICATION for the purposeful killing of a fetus in the late second trimester and third trimester of pregnancy falls to the MOST RARE situations. Pro choicers are always howling about how "rare" these late abortions are and yet the justification pro-choicers use for why they should be legal is even MORE rare. Have your cake and eat it to. It just doesn't make sense. One could say it's hypocritical.
Hey tryreading...here's an obvious question for you...How come, when I supplied a little bit of info on a fairly common disability called Trisomy 21 (Down's Syndrome), your response was that you (and I quote) "don't need to know about it"...? Yet apparently you do have the ability to look stuff up concerning medical issues and feel there is some importance in it.... Just an observation....
Oh...and BTW--the next paragrapg in that article--that you DIDN'T quote says,
"There is evidence that the procedure is sometimes performed for other reasons: in the case of a very young pregnant woman, or a pregnancy which resulted from a rape or incest. Former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop has stated that no competent physician with state-of-the-art skill in the management of high-risk pregnancies needs to perform a D&X. " Interesting...
In the case of hydrocephaly--a caesarian is necessary--the alternative is the "partial birth abortion" procedure. Now a days women ELECT to have cesareans and doctors often are more than willing to perform them because they have control over the birth process and can anticipate problems before they become emergencies. Caesarians are an option, killing the fetus is NOT necessary. The hydrocephaly your article describes is the MOST severe cases (the article even mentions that ) but hydrocephalus is treatable in most cases.
Lastly--that's a fetal reason--not a maternal reason
As for Eisenmenger's....I have never denied that a woman has a right to preserve her life even from her fetus if she could die. However this syndrome ALSO does not require the purposeful killing of the fetus. Perhaps early induction that may occur before a child can survive...but a lethal injection or a collapsed skull prior to delivery? Not necessary.
And BTW...Another very rare situation. Are you so naive to think that all the late abortions done in the US are for situations such as these? Then why the fuss about defining it legally that way? Why the fuss about requiring a tragic physical situation to be present to allow medical intervention that may result in the death of the fetus? [/QUOTE]
I'm not being hypocritical. You are clouding the issue. You asked for an example of abortion being necessary in the third trimester to protect the health and/or life of a pregnant woman. I gave you two examples. You probably already knew about these medical issues anyway, so I'm not sure why you wanted examples from me.
The examples are rare, but that is not relevant to the question. Third trimester abortions are rare also, like you said.
Hydrocephaly can definitely be a maternal risk. I read the information I posted, from a reputable source, and it said so. The information is from a doctor.
"...early induction that may occur before a child can survive." This is your suggestion. This is abortion.
Felicity said:
Oh...and BTW--the next paragrapg in that article--that you DIDN'T quote says, "There is evidence that the procedure is sometimes performed for other reasons: in the case of a very young pregnant woman, or a pregnancy which resulted from a rape or incest. Former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop has stated that no competent physician with state-of-the-art skill in the management of high-risk pregnancies needs to perform a D&X. " Interesting...
I was trying to answer your challenge. The above is not pertenant to the answer.
To your last paragraph, I was not requiring anything, but responding to your question. These two maternal health issues exist, and they can both occur in the third trimester, if I interpreted right.