Plans to close 17 Cardiff schools (1 Viewer)

[jimmyjack]

Plans to close 17 Cardiff schools

Reason: Abortion.

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[Aurora151989]

Plans to close 17 Cardiff schools

Reason: Abortion.

Source

where does it say that the reason is abortion? It looks like they're doing it in England and they have a completely different system than ours. Here they wait till schools are overcrowded to build more. There, they assume and build more then have to close them. I simply see human error.

 

[ngdawg]

Conjecture is not fact. Nice try, JJ, but really, really lame....:roll: Come up with something substantial to back yourself up, k?

 

[jimmyjack]

250,000 abortions a years say’s it is fact.

 

[Aurora151989]

*ahem* the issue you seem to be trying to debate is excess schools. We have beaten the subject of abortion to death here and moved on to other things. In the united states there are many many abortions a year but yet, schools are overcrowded.

 

[ngdawg]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2570503.stm
Perhaps this is what you THINK you are referring to?:

The birth rate in England and Wales has fallen to an all-time low, official figures show.
And they reveal that one in five pregnancies nationwide ends in an abortion - one in three in some areas.

The average number of children per woman is just 1.64 - the lowest since records began in 1924.

And women are waiting on average until the age of 27 before starting a family.

There was also a 2% drop in the number of live births in 2001. The figure in 2000 was 604,000, last year it was 595,000.
However, the article goes on to state the actual reasons for the decline in the UK birth rate. To wit:
The falling birth rate has been linked to more women opting for a career, work pressures and the higher rate of relationship breakdown.

If one out of 5 pregnancies end in abortion, that means that 4 out of 5 are carried to term, clearly 80%. You still have not proven your statement.

 

[jimmyjack]

We have beaten the subject of abortion to death here and moved on to other things.

You have done no such thing; abortion is genocide, if it where not, we would have seen a demonstration that a foetus is not a person, but as yet no one has.

 

[ngdawg]

You have done no such thing; abortion is genocide, if it where not, we would have seen a demonstration that a foetus is not a person, but as yet no one has.

Actually, that has been established, you just can't or won't read.

per·son (pûr'sən)
n.
1.A living human. Often used in combination: chairperson; spokesperson; salesperson.
2.An individual of specified character: a person of importance.
3.The composite of characteristics that make up an individual personality; the self.
4.The living body of a human: searched the prisoner's person.
Physique and general appearance.
5.Law. A human or organization with legal rights and duties.
6.Christianity. Any of the three separate individualities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as distinguished from the essence of the Godhead that unites them.
Grammar.
Any of three groups of pronoun forms with corresponding verb inflections that distinguish the speaker (first person), the individual addressed (second person), and the individual or thing spoken of (third person).
Any of the different forms or inflections expressing these distinctions.
A character or role, as in a play; a guise: “Well, in her person, I say I will not have you” (Shakespeare).

fe·tus (fē'təs)
n., pl. -tus·es.
1.The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal.
2.In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo.

There's no similarities in those definitions. I win!!! Buh-bye, JJ. It's been fun. Johnny, tell JJ what's his consolation prize for playing.

 

[jimmyjack]

Actually, that has been established, you just can't or won't read.

per·son (pûr'sən)
n.
1.A living human.

So you agree with killing foetuses, despite them being people, as you have quoted.

 

[ngdawg]

So you agree with killing foetuses, despite them being people, as you have quoted.

Uh...I quoted no such thing. Show me where it says 'person. n. fetus.'
or 'people. n. fetus' or 'fetus.n. person' Doesn't. You lose again....:doh

 

[jimmyjack]

Uh...I quoted no such thing. Show me where it says 'person. n. fetus.'
or 'people. n. fetus' or 'fetus.n. person' Doesn't. You lose again....:doh

A foetus is a living human, right? And you said a person is a living human.

Are you with me?

 

[ngdawg]

A foetus is a living human, right? And you said a person is a living human.

Are you with me?

Nope. A car is a vehicle. A motorcycle is a vehicle. So a car is a motorcycle.
Are you with me?

 

[jimmyjack]

Nope. A car is a vehicle. A motorcycle is a vehicle. So a car is a motorcycle.
Are you with me?

How can you be in dispute?

You have defined the foetus as a human person, not me.

Do you dispute your own beliefs?

 

[ngdawg]

How can you be in dispute?

You have defined the foetus as a human person, not me.

Do you dispute your own beliefs?

Show me where in the definition for 'fetus' it says 'human person'....I looked. I don't see it....
For the record, one does not 'dispute their own beliefs'. That doesn't even make sense. And, I never voiced my beliefs in this idiotic exchange:roll:

 

[jimmyjack]

Show me where in the definition for 'fetus' it says 'human person'....I looked. I don't see it....
For the record, one does not 'dispute their own beliefs'. That doesn't even make sense. And, I never voiced my beliefs in this idiotic exchange:roll:

You said a human is a person, right?

So, you either deny a foetus is a human or you have a very bad memory.

 

[ngdawg]

You said a human is a person, right?

So, you either deny a foetus is a human or you have a very bad memory.

*I* didn't say anything of the sort, I copied and pasted the word 'person'.
Again for the last time, since your density of cranial matter needs extra prodding, there are no similarities between the two definitions. Now, run along and play.....
I can deny any fetus is human, except a human fetus, by the way..the word is not homosapien exclusive.( you may want to look these bigger words up)

 

[vergiss]

Plans to close 17 Cardiff schools

Reason: Abortion.

Source

Also from the article:

BBC Wales has obtained a leaked copy of the proposals which also outline plans for three new secondary schools and the expansion of some Welsh-medium schools.

:roll:

 

[jimmyjack]

Also from the article:

:roll:

There are still 17 schools that will be closed, they are not building 17 new ones, are they?

 

[jimmyjack]

*I* didn't say anything of the sort, I copied and pasted the word 'person'.
Again for the last time, since your density of cranial matter needs extra prodding, there are no similarities between the two definitions. Now, run along and play.....
I can deny any fetus is human, except a human fetus, by the way..the word is not homosapien exclusive.( you may want to look these bigger words up)

Why did you reference a word to demonstrate its meaning only to deny what you referenced?

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Plans to close 17 Cardiff schools

Reason: Abortion.

Source

And there millions starving in countries where the populations have exploded beyond their abilities to be fed.
Reason? They believe this gift from god crap and won't here of birth control or abortion.
Silly simplistic explanation? Perhaps, but boy not as dumb as yours.

 

[jimmyjack]

And there millions starving in countries where the populations have exploded beyond their abilities to be fed.
Reason?

Are you sure that is the reason?

Are you sure other countries that have obesity problems are not being very nice by not sharing their food.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Are you sure that is the reason?

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No, it's a glib, simplistic, ridiculous response. Just like your original proposition that Cardiff schools are closing because of abortion.

Do keep up dear chap.
It's called irony.

No, straight over your head I see:roll:

 

[jimmyjack]

No, it's a glib, simplistic, ridiculous response.

I knew you would see the light in the end!

There is hope for you yet.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

I knew you would see the light in the end!.

Shame you don't

There is hope for you yet.

But evidently not for you

:roll:

 

[jimmyjack]

Shame you don't

Well you hardly have room to talk, being a communist.

But evidently not for you

:roll:

What evidence do you have?