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She has every right to be upset. Thus she can cancel her membership.umm no the guy thinking he has the right to go into a womens bathroom is what is screwed up. the fact that you fail to address this women's concern and right to be upset with having a man in her locker room is what is sad.
I doubt she would have a case. The gym is a private club they probably didn't charge her for the membership one they revoked it. And she suffered no damage from being in the locker room with a transsexual. I don't know what she would sue for.this women should sue. the gym failed to provide a safe and protective environment for women by allowing men to enter the women's locker room.
A lot of what made her upset is that they weren't informing members of this policy when they signed up.A private gym made a policy. She didn't have to be a member there. I'm not for my own reasons and it's regarding one of their policies.
oh ok so you;ll just ignore all my questions and ask me some . . . lol awesomeThe corporate policy is that a "non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members", enforced by determining that "behavior that club management deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members" is grounds for membership revocation.
So my question to you is this:
if the club management determined that because the woman was intimidated by a transgender man in the woman's locker room, and because his use of the woman's locker room was deemed disruptive to other members, they terminated his membership, would you be complaining about their policy?
this women should sue. the gym failed to provide a safe and protective environment for women by allowing men to enter the women's locker room.
You have every right to feel that way. But she doesn't really have any rights to anything within somebody else's club.Its a really stupid and twisted policy and she had every right not to feel threatened in their WOMEN'S dressing room.
The fitness club is a private membership club. I don't think she has such rights in somebody else's property.She had every right to assume that she wouldn't be undressing next to some strange man.
1.)No, you didn't.
2.)You claimed she made bigoted claims and then posted a bunch of links.
3.)The bullying is throwing around insults and accusations just becakse someone disagrees with your opinion.
4.) Now what exactly did she say that was " bigoted " ?
Yes they can. It's a private club. I'm willing to bet it was outlined in the contract she signed.that is discrimination against women. so no they can't. she did nothing wrong. that guy should have never been in the women bathroom.
Maybe it's time for her to find a new fitness club. As I understand they don't charge a sign up fee.A lot of what made her upset is that they weren't informing members of this policy when they signed up.
thers no case
theres no evidence the gym failed to provide a safe and protective environment
try again
A lot of what made her upset is that they weren't informing members of this policy when they signed up.
1.) yes i did lol
2.) i also posted what she said, so did the op article and so did others
3.) good thing that wasnt done
4.) read the op, what the lady saidm what i said she said and the links
facts win again
also let me know when you can show us that bullying please, thanks
oh ok so you;ll just ignore all my questions and ask me some . . . lol awesome
based on your info i dont know what me personal feelings would be
for your made up scenario
define "intimidated"
define "disruptive"
then give me the options the person has like this lady had.
but to answer what I think you are getting at . . . .
if a gym had what IMO would be a discriminatory policy and the mere presence of a transgender caused intimidation and disruptiveness AND the transgender person had the option of using private stalls so the intimidation and disruptiveness wouldnt happen but refused and choose to say everybody else should do that and denied that option.
Then call corporate and gets the same answer and still refuses.
THen for the next four days approaches members saying bigoted and hateful things that broke policies
then is asked to stop and refuses
YES i would support lost membership for breaking the rules, making an ass out of yourself and denying the use of legitimate opinions just like the stupid lady in the OP did
1.)Allowing MEN, strange men to enter imto the WOMEN'S locker room is FAILING to provide a safe and protective environment.
2.)I swear the whole World is losing their friken minds.
3.) Her claiming that it was not safe or secure was NOT a bigoted remark based on Hate.
4.)How in the hell would you know if she hated that MAN or any Transgender ?
5.)You don't
6.) but this is the strategy of the LGBT agenda.
7.) Irresponsible attacks and insults to achieve their goals.
8.) Its going to backfire thoroughly. A tiny minority of people bullying a vast majority Via threats and insults.
9.)Lol....yea, thats going to work out great.
1.) says who. Are all transgenders dangerous uncontrollable sex freaks and criminals or something? what makes them MORE dangerous than anybody?
2.) you are free to have that opinion but you'd have to back that claim up
3.) yes it is because its prejudiced and assume that simply because there is a transgender present she is in danger
just like it would be if somebody complain about blacks, or Muslims etc and said thier presence is dangerous :scared:
so were her request to treat the person as a lesser
4.) her comments say so
5.) did you just claim to tell me what i believe? this is called a failed strawman and its a very desperate one that nobody honest buys
6.) what is the LGBT agenda?
7.) what attacks, what insults, what goals? seems you like to just make a lot of stuff up and sell it as fact lol
8.) well in this case that didnt happen so no worries
9.) see #8
Not in the mind of the owner of the club. If she finds it dangerous she can find a dissent club.Allowing MEN, strange men to enter imto the WOMEN'S locker room is FAILING to provide a safe and protective environment.
Because people don't agree with you?I swear the whole World is losing their friken minds.
I don't know what she was thinking. Though I find her complaint legitimate, not that any of this matters.Her claiming that it was not safe or secure was NOT a bigoted remark based on Hate.
Nobody really could. And because of that I wouldn't even address this line of reasoning when it comes up.How in the hell would you know if she hated that MAN or any Transgender ?
Alas some people use the lgbt's social might to seek revenge, and betting that can and no doubt does happen we can only ask that the lgbt make sure of something before they let slip the dogs of war. Does that seem reasonable to you?You don't, but this is the strategy of the LGBT agenda. Irresponsible attacks and insults to achieve their goals.
It already has to some extent. I think some of this stuff is putting people off. That is why one must be careful when supporting a political group.Its going to backfire thoroughly. A tiny minority of people bullying a vast majority Via threats and insults.
I think generally it has. But the future might be a rocky place for that political group. If lesbians bisexuals, gays and transgender do achieve equality isn't it time for the group to disband? It served it's purpose.Lol....yea, thats going to work out great.
1.)The corporate policy is as I described, straight from the PF statement in the OP's link.
2.) The policy allows management to determine what is "disruptive" and/or "inappropriate" to other members, most likely taking into account member feedback.
3.) The same policy can be applied to any situation, even the same as what happened in the OP, in a variety of ways.
4.)The same policy could have resulted in the transgender man's membership being revoked because it was deemed disruptive to other members.
Probably so, but that doesn't make her point any less legitimate. If the gym wants to enforce such a policy, they should tell prospective members up front, rather than by just letting them find out as they're changing clothes and some random guy comes walking in the locker room. That doesn't help anyone, and is just a recipe for disaster.Maybe it's time for her to find a new fitness club. As I understand they don't charge a sign up fee.
1.)You havnt posted facts. Youve posted your opinion.
2.)Your irresponsible accusations of " hate " and " bigotry " are your opinion.
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1.)Just a point, are you saying men are threats?
2.) why have separate bathrooms anyway?
I didn't say her complaint wasn't legitimate. I didn't like their billing policy, so I didn't become a member. If they changed it while I was a member I'd simply quit. My complaint would be legitimate.Probably so, but that doesn't make her point any less legitimate. If the gym wants to enforce such a policy, they should tell prospective members up front, rather than by just letting them find out as they're changing clothes and some random guy comes walking in the locker room. That doesn't help anyone, and is just a recipe for disaster.
so again dodge my questions and just talk about other stuff . . . got it
also you arent talking bout my answer? I guess since i would be ok with it you didnt like it lol
1.) great did i say it wasnt?
2.) very possible
3.) yes i understand you are making that claim but so far you havent shown it to be factual
4.) no not in this case since they already have a policy about judgment and one that allows equal treatment to transgenders.
All they have to do is post a sign at the front desk and on each locker room door. Seems dishonest to keep that policy secret. Full disclosure and then anyone can live with it or go elsewhere.
The policy is applied by club management, i.e. each location, and the policy is directed at "disruptive" and/or "inappropriate behavior" towards other members. Each location can determine what fits that description, which guarantees a variety of outcomes.
I didn't say her complaint wasn't legitimate. I didn't like their billing policy, so I didn't become a member. If they changed it while I was a member I'd simply quit. My complaint would be legitimate.
Anybody not liking that club for any reason is legitimate. But it's a private club only open to its members. They don't have to make people privy of policy changes. It may cost them members but that is their circus and their monkeys.
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