Phony Hillary Email Scandal Was Started By The NY Times.

pbrauer · Mar 12, 2015

Yes indeed, this phony scandal was started by that liberal rag the NY Times with the following article

Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules

Before that column was published there was no media covering this issue, despite the fact it was publicly known in March 2013 she had a private server in her home. They found out because a Clinton confident, Sidney Blumenthal, AOL email to her was hacked.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws, she chose to have 1 email account because in 2009 Blackberrys could not handle more than one, so she would need to carry two. Blackberry has since been updated to handle more than one.

Sorry for those of you who are on the right and left who want this to be a scandal, it is not. Because her name is Clinton, the Washington Press is going after her. They are not going after Jeb Bush who had his own server while he was governor. Nor are they going after Colin Powell who had a personal email account when was SoS.

Declan · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Yes indeed, this phony scandal was started by that liberal rag the NY Times with the following article

Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules

Before that column was published there was no media covering this issue, despite the fact it was publicly known in March 2013 she had a private server in her home. They found out because a Clinton confident, Sidney Blumenthal, AOL email to her was hacked.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws, she chose to have 1 email account because in 2009 Blackberrys could not handle more than one, so she would need to carry two. Blackberry has since been updated to handle more than one.

Sorry for those of you who are on the right and left who want this to be a scandal, it is not. Because her name is Clinton, the Washington Press is going after her. They are not going after Jeb Bush who had his own server while he was governor. Nor are they going after Colin Powell who had a personal email account when was SoS.

Sorry for you apologists. She is done.

eohrnberger · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Yes indeed, this phony scandal was started by that liberal rag the NY Times with the following article

Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules

Before that column was published there was no media covering this issue, despite the fact it was publicly known in March 2013 she had a private server in her home. They found out because a Clinton confident, Sidney Blumenthal, AOL email to her was hacked.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws, she chose to have 1 email account because in 2009 Blackberrys could not handle more than one, so she would need to carry two. Blackberry has since been updated to handle more than one.

Sorry for those of you who are on the right and left who want this to be a scandal, it is not. Because her name is Clinton, the Washington Press is going after her. They are not going after Jeb Bush who had his own server while he was governor. Nor are they going after Colin Powell who had a personal email account when was SoS.

Still pushing the issued narrative complete with talking points?

It's the 1950's records law she's in violation of, and also the stated administration policy, which they'll never hold accountable for - as if there's any accountability in this administration in the least anyway.

Force feeding BS is such ugly business, Pete. It's really beneath you, and you should stop.

pbrauer · Mar 12, 2015

eohrnberger said:
Still pushing the issued narrative complete with talking points?

It's the 1950's records law she's in violation of, and also the stated administration policy, which they'll never hold accountable for - as if there's any accountability in this administration in the least anyway.

Force feeding BS is such ugly business, Pete. It's really beneath you, and you should stop.

What about Colin Powell, he had a personal account too?

haymarket · Mar 12, 2015

Declan said:
Sorry for you apologists. She is done.

Why do you think so? This has all the trappings of one of those "inside the Beltway" obsessions that fail to resonate with the American people. Can anybody say BENGHAZI?

I was NOT a Hillary supporter in 2008 and hope she does not run in 2016. But I really think this is ALL about politics from the right and the American people are again shrugging their shoulders in a "who cares" gesture.

Declan · Mar 12, 2015

haymarket said:
Why do you think so? This has all the trappings of one of those "inside the Beltway" obsessions that fail to resonate with the American people. Can anybody say BENGHAZI?

I was NOT a Hillary supporter in 2008 and hope she does not run in 2016. But I really think this is ALL about politics from the right and the American people are again shrugging their shoulders in a "who cares" gesture.

No. As someone pointed out the other day, if this was anybody else, it would be no big issue. Too many scandals with this family. Regardless of who is involved, I think America will be looking for someone not-establishment.

eohrnberger · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
What about Colin Powell, he had a personal account too?

Used for official business? That's not been demonstrated, or has it?

It's pretty clear that Hillary's private email was used for official business, both State, the HW and Hillary have pretty much admitted it.

pbrauer · Mar 12, 2015

eohrnberger said:
Used for official business? That's not been demonstrated, or has it?

It's pretty clear that Hillary's private email was used for official business, both State, the HW and Hillary have pretty much admitted it.

Thats true, she was allowed to do that, do we know Colin Powell didn't do that as well?

MMC · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Yes indeed, this phony scandal was started by that liberal rag the NY Times with the following article

Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules

Before that column was published there was no media covering this issue, despite the fact it was publicly known in March 2013 she had a private server in her home. They found out because a Clinton confident, Sidney Blumenthal, AOL email to her was hacked.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws, she chose to have 1 email account because in 2009 Blackberrys could not handle more than one, so she would need to carry two. Blackberry has since been updated to handle more than one.

Sorry for those of you who are on the right and left who want this to be a scandal, it is not. Because her name is Clinton, the Washington Press is going after her. They are not going after Jeb Bush who had his own server while he was governor. Nor are they going after Colin Powell who had a personal email account when was SoS.

Try again Pete :roll: The NY Times only picked up what Gawker had already sent out to the WH and State in 2013. It was a nice try Pete. Just not good enough! :no:

Hillary Clinton supporters have defended her use of a private email account to conduct official State Department business by arguing that she emailed colleagues at their government addresses, ensuring that a copy of the correspondence would be retained on government servers and available to archivists. As it turns out, some aides to Hillary Clinton also used private email addresses. But even if Team Hillary's initial claim had held together, it wouldn't matter. Public records laws encompass not just correspondence with other government employees but also emails with third parties about government business.

That's why a particular email flagged by J.K. Trotter is important. Back in 2013, a hacker secured access to the private email account of Sidney Blumenthal, a staffer in Bill Clinton's White House. The hacker sent screenshots of his inbox to various news outlets, including Gawker. "According to those screenshots, Blumenthal was regularly sending Clinton what appeared to be freelance intelligence reports—including information and advice about the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya—all of which clearly fell under the rubric of official State Department business," Trotter writes. "At the time, Gawker noted that Clinton’s apparent use of the non-official account likely violated federal regulations governing records retention, and sent inquiries directly to Clinton and to the White House asking if messages to the clintonemail.com address were being retained."

Gawker also "filed a FOIA request with the agency for all correspondence to date between Hillary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal," Trotter continues, "specifically including any messages to or from the hdr22@clintonemail.com account." We now know that email address did, in fact, belong to former Secretary of State Clinton. Had she been following the rules and forwarding all email about official business to government servers, the State Department would've found the Blumenthal email. They found nothing.....snip~

A Hillary Clinton Email the State Department Couldn't Find

CRUE CAB · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Yes indeed, this phony scandal was started by that liberal rag the NY Times with the following article

Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules

Before that column was published there was no media covering this issue, despite the fact it was publicly known in March 2013 she had a private server in her home. They found out because a Clinton confident, Sidney Blumenthal, AOL email to her was hacked.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws, she chose to have 1 email account because in 2009 Blackberrys could not handle more than one, so she would need to carry two. Blackberry has since been updated to handle more than one.

Sorry for those of you who are on the right and left who want this to be a scandal, it is not. Because her name is Clinton, the Washington Press is going after her. They are not going after Jeb Bush who had his own server while he was governor. Nor are they going after Colin Powell who had a personal email account when was SoS.

Talk about being an apologist.

haymarket · Mar 12, 2015

In 1972 President Richard Nixon used the power of his high office to participate in a criminal cover up of a breaking and entering done for political advantage at the Watergate building in the middle of a political campaign that he was involved with.

Can somebody take one sentence and tell me just what Hillary Clinton has done that is of a comparable scandal that will resonate with the American people?

MMC · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
What about Colin Powell, he had a personal account too?

SAVED.....off the deflection. :2razz:

ocean515 · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Thats true, she was allowed to do that, do we know Colin Powell didn't do that as well?

Awesome defection/strawman Pete.

Hilary knowingly used her own personal email account, and admits it was a mistake. She has breached the trust and transparency requirements of a US Government Official, and has admittedly edited what she is willing the public to see.

Much like "chain of evidence" applies in legal matters, Clinton has violated the "chain of evidence" in her communications as an official of the United States Government. It is egregious, and difficult not to conclude, calculated.

The spin from her apologists is about a desperate as I have witnessed since Nixon.

NeverTrump · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Yes indeed, this phony scandal was started by that liberal rag the NY Times with the following article

Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules

Before that column was published there was no media covering this issue, despite the fact it was publicly known in March 2013 she had a private server in her home. They found out because a Clinton confident, Sidney Blumenthal, AOL email to her was hacked.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws, she chose to have 1 email account because in 2009 Blackberrys could not handle more than one, so she would need to carry two. Blackberry has since been updated to handle more than one.

Sorry for those of you who are on the right and left who want this to be a scandal, it is not. Because her name is Clinton, the Washington Press is going after her. They are not going after Jeb Bush who had his own server while he was governor. Nor are they going after Colin Powell who had a personal email account when was SoS.

For me the issue isn't she used a private email account. People do that all the time at my non-profit. The issue is that she didn't use her state department email. Oh and the fact she won't let anyone see her server despite them asking, and that she lied about Emailing her husband. However, I do agree that lots of things have been drug out from the past in this new digital age where everyone is hunting down things about everyone else to use as ammo. Welcome to the new world in the 21st century.

I see this happen all the time on YouTube for example. Old videos are rehashed into global conspiracy clips and the like. But this is hardly a phony scandal.

Carleen · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Thats true, she was allowed to do that, do we know Colin Powell didn't do that as well?

Colin Powell was on This Week on Sunday and stated that he only had a private email account and erased all of his emails.

ocean515 · Mar 12, 2015

Carleen said:
Colin Powell was on This Week on Sunday and stated that he only had a private email account and erased all of his emails.

And the part about archiving his emails as require by law? Care to include that tidbit?

MMC · Mar 12, 2015

Carleen said:
Colin Powell was on This Week on Sunday and stated that he only had a private email account and erased all of his emails.

Another Save.....on the deflection. :2razz: Mornin' Carleen.

Carleen · Mar 12, 2015

MMC said:
Another Save.....on the deflection. :2razz: Mornin' Carleen.

Thanks.

Fearandloathing · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Yes indeed, this phony scandal was started by that liberal rag the NY Times with the following article

Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules

Before that column was published there was no media covering this issue, despite the fact it was publicly known in March 2013 she had a private server in her home. They found out because a Clinton confident, Sidney Blumenthal, AOL email to her was hacked.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws, she chose to have 1 email account because in 2009 Blackberrys could not handle more than one, so she would need to carry two. Blackberry has since been updated to handle more than one.

Sorry for those of you who are on the right and left who want this to be a scandal, it is not. Because her name is Clinton, the Washington Press is going after her. They are not going after Jeb Bush who had his own server while he was governor. Nor are they going after Colin Powell who had a personal email account when was SoS.

Interesting...

The Obama fawning left can't compete in the threads about Hillary's misdeeds, so they start threads of their own so they can have an echo gallery?

You lost the other debates, nice try turning this around.

Fearandloathing · Mar 12, 2015

Carleen said:
Colin Powell was on This Week on Sunday and stated that he only had a private email account and erased all of his emails.

And that's relevant to someone who lusts after the presidency how?

You miss the point...as always. What happened before was supposed to CHANGE with your hero...

It didn't

FAIL

MMC · Mar 12, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
Interesting...

The Obama fawning left can't compete in the threads about Hillary's misdeeds, so they start threads of their own so they can have an echo gallery?

You lost the other debates, nice try turning this around.

Yeah he forgot about the Romanian hacker who is sitting in Prison.....and that Joaaaassssssh, (Pronounced as Gosh) stonewalled Gawker for over a year.

pbrauer · Mar 12, 2015

MMC said:
Try again Pete :roll: The NY Times only picked up what Gawker had already sent out to the WH and State in 2013. It was a nice try Pete. Just not good enough! :no:

Hillary Clinton supporters have defended her use of a private email account to conduct official State Department business by arguing that she emailed colleagues at their government addresses, ensuring that a copy of the correspondence would be retained on government servers and available to archivists. As it turns out, some aides to Hillary Clinton also used private email addresses. But even if Team Hillary's initial claim had held together, it wouldn't matter. Public records laws encompass not just correspondence with other government employees but also emails with third parties about government business.

That's why a particular email flagged by J.K. Trotter is important. Back in 2013, a hacker secured access to the private email account of Sidney Blumenthal, a staffer in Bill Clinton's White House. The hacker sent screenshots of his inbox to various news outlets, including Gawker. "According to those screenshots, Blumenthal was regularly sending Clinton what appeared to be freelance intelligence reports—including information and advice about the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya—all of which clearly fell under the rubric of official State Department business," Trotter writes. "At the time, Gawker noted that Clinton’s apparent use of the non-official account likely violated federal regulations governing records retention, and sent inquiries directly to Clinton and to the White House asking if messages to the clintonemail.com address were being retained."

Gawker also "filed a FOIA request with the agency for all correspondence to date between Hillary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal," Trotter continues, "specifically including any messages to or from the hdr22@clintonemail.com account." We now know that email address did, in fact, belong to former Secretary of State Clinton. Had she been following the rules and forwarding all email about official business to government servers, the State Department would've found the Blumenthal email. They found nothing.....snip~

A Hillary Clinton Email the State Department Couldn't Find

Of course they didn't find the email because it was personal between the two. She had her initials in the email address hdr22@clintonemail. Hillary Rodham Clinton. I think its doubtful she used the same account for her email to the government. It would be a bear to separate the two.

MMC · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Of course they didn't find the email because it was personal between the two. She had her initials in the email address hdr22@clintonemail. Hillary Rodham Clinton. I think its doubtful she used the same account for her email to the government. It would be a bear to separate the two.

Pete, what part about the Snapshots of the screen don't you get and discussing Benghazi? The Romanian hacker sent them to news sources overseas and in the US.

Also.....this still doesn't change the fact that Gawker busted Hillary out and contacted the WH and Clinton Directly in 2013.....thus totally destroying the notion about the NY times.

Can you explain why Hillary didn't try and clean up for a year? Why BO peep tried to keep it on the back burner?

Mycroft · Mar 12, 2015

pbrauer said:
Of course they didn't find the email because it was personal between the two. She had her initials in the email address hdr22@clintonemail. Hillary Rodham Clinton. I think its doubtful she used the same account for her email to the government. It would be a bear to separate the two.

Ummm...

Hillary, herself, said she used that email for everything...personal and government email.

pbrauer · Mar 12, 2015

MMC said:
Pete, what part about the Snapshots of the screen don't you get and discussing Benghazi? The Romanian hacker sent them to news sources overseas and in the US.

Also.....this still doesn't change the fact that Gawker busted Hillary out and contacted the WH and Clinton Directly in 2013.....thus totally destroying the notion about the NY times.

Can you explain why Hillary didn't try and clean up for a year? Why BO peep tried to keep it on the back burner?

Those emails were to her, not from her. Is she allowed to receive information about BENGHAZI?

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