• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Pete Hegseth

Does Party Pete survive the week?


  • Total voters
    31
  • Poll closed .
Here's to hoping the GOP establishment sinks another Trump "pick" just to watch the MAGA tears flow
 
Terrorism is a constant with the democrats.
No it isn't.
The democrats try to effect political change through fear.
No we don't.
These demagoguery attacks such as the one being waged against Hegseth.
There are no "demagoguery" attacks happening against Hegseth from us Democrats.
]The tactic is to create fear and dread in anyone that would oppose the agenda of the democrats that they will be utterly defamed and destroyed by the full weight of the party and the corrupt press who will relentlessly slander and defame them.
That isn't true at all.
Terrorism is the proper and correct term for what democrats do.
You are so wrong about what we Democrats do.
 
I did not suggest it wasn't. However several posters have indicated that the Senate should simply rubberstamp Trump's choices. Which is what I thought was what you were supporting when you said
All of them are Trump's choice and should be Trump's choice
The Constitution is very clear. The Senate is the body who advises and consents on high level nominations. To suggest Senators should rubberstamp Trump's nominations is a step towards moving power from the legesislative branch to Trump. Posters here have even suggested Senators who cross Trump should be punished.....punished for doing their job.
 
Who is ignoring the Constitution and in what manner are they doing so?
By insisting the Senate should automatically approve Trump's picks
 
If I had a dollar for every time I heard a friend say that, well, I would be a millionaire.

I drank for many years. The only thing that got me to quit was when a Pancreatic Specialist told me I could die if I kept on drinking. I've never had a drink since and that was 10 or so years ago. Pete Hegseth is still young and full of himself. He will never quit drinking without help. I've been there. It takes more than a promise. It takes a real-life changing event.
 
You are just twisting using a "several posters" tactic without specific quotes. Then you twisted further by saying, "Which is what I thought was what you were supporting".

The nominees are Trump's choice. After he makes them, the Senate begins their process. If they don't confirm someone, the nominee again becomes Trump's choice.

You are the one writing comments discussing the Constitution not being followed (fabricated obsessed TDS narrative?). Trump, on the other hand, is doing exactly what he should be, and the Senate is doing exactly what they should be. Your pot stirring over your made-up narrative doesn't apply to the reality of the process actually underway, Callen.
 
I don't think Hegseth is going to make it.

I wonder if Trump can put a cabinet together by inauguration day.
 
You are just twisting using a "several posters" tactic without specific quotes. Then you twisted further by saying, "Which is what I thought was what you were supporting".
It's my understanding that it is against forum rules to post quotes from people not engaged on a thread or conversation and I wasn't going hunting for them, then double checking but there most certainly have been many posts saying the nominations should be rubberstamped and Senators punished if they don't .

I twisted nothing. I thought you were supporting that position.
 
By insisting the Senate should automatically approve Trump's picks
Who are you talking about and what "insisting" do you mean? Do you have a source, quotes, anything? Has something illegal or in violation of the Constitution occurred - and if so, what?
 
I don't think Hegseth is going to make it.

I wonder if Trump can put a cabinet together by inauguration day.
I'd have to research history to know about Trump's predecessors, but it sure looks like this cabinet process is happening at an extremely rapid pace.
 
I made nothing up and certainly never said the process wasn't, being followed. Please stop your baseless accusations and misrepresentations of what I post.

Posters here are calling for nominations to be runnberstamped or punishment dealt out. Some GOP Senators are suggesting simply rubberstamping which by default is relinquishing their Constitutional responsibilities. That's what I was addressing . Never did I suggest the process wasn't being followed but rather the fact is there are those who would cede this process to Trump.
 
I'd have to research history to know about Trump's predecessors, but it sure looks like this cabinet process is happening at an extremely rapid pace.

Like everything else about Mr. Trump, it's in flux.
 
Who are you talking about and what "insisting" do you mean? Do you have a source, quotes, anything? Has something illegal or in violation of the Constitution occurred - and if so, what?
Once more......I did not suggest that any violation of the Constitution occurred or the process wasn't being followed. That is an untrue statement. I only said there are those saying Trump's choices should not be challenged which is an abdication of Senatorial responsibility to the Executive.
 
Trump isn't doing what he should be doing. He should have set a vetting process in place before he nominated some of these people. He is holding people with questionable histories up to embarrassment and he is requiring the Senate to do his vetting for him--wasting time and money.
 
of course its true

Very little of what you post is true, this is not one of the very rare exceptions.

the problem is Republicans not sipporting Gaetz and Hegseth. Democrats aee irrelevant.

Gaetz withdrew ages ago.

The democrat terrorist attack on Hegseth was intended to create fear among Senators that a vote confirming would turn the power of the democrat demagoguery corps on them.

The problem is that the MSM is fading. No one believes the NY Times, WaPo and the other little Goebbels of the party.

lies.

The constitution gives the senate the power to confirm, or not.

And your party used terrorist tactics in an attempt to block the constitutional power of the Senate. Hey, treason is just part of being a democrat.

My party is in the minority. Irrelevant. Republicans are the ones scuttling appointments not the democrats.

Blatant lie.

The smear campaign was run by the NY Times and the rest of the democrat party media. The dying MSM is the democrat party and vice versa.

It really seems like you dont understand that

You've lost this time - the lesson is that the all powerful democrat press is no longer all powerful.

Real people on Twitter have more influence on public opinion than the little Goebbels of the democrat party do. I hear the worst demagogue and scumbag of them all, Jack Krugman, is giving it all up to go live in his Dachau dreaming of a Communist paradise he failed to ever deliver.
 
Just like his picks for the SC are his alone to make.
Exactly. Did we both misinterpret this comment? I don't think so. It's crystal clear what Callen has implied.
The devotion to Trump and willingness to ignore the Constitution is worrisome. More worrisome is that they don't seem to realize that is what they are doing,
 
DeSantis needs to stay where he is. He is Chief Executive of one of the most important states in the union.
Looks like he will. President Trump has again reaffirmed his support for Pete Hegseth ignoring the attempts of the slimy anti-Trump media and their dutiful lackeys to "Kavanaugh" him.
 
Looks like he will. President Trump has again reaffirmed his support for Pete Hegseth ignoring the attempts of the slimy anti-Trump media and their dutiful lackeys to "Kavanaugh" him.
I heard and read DeSantis and Trump are going to the Army/Navy game together next weekend. Knowing they aren't buddies who regularly hang out together, that seems somewhat interesting. If Hegseth becomes Sec of Defense, I wonder if Trump might have other ideas Trump wants to discuss with DeSantis?


 
Gaetz for senate maybe?
 
Hegseth will have his opportunity to convince a majority of Senators of his fitness for office, and the Senate will advise and may consent if it so chooses.

Frankly I don't find Hegseth a optimal choice, but not necessarily the worst one either. My advice to Trump would be to nominate someone else with military experience at a higher level or a civilian with a track record of deep engagement with reform along the lines Hegseth is reputedly interested in.

Changing a work culture is extremely difficult and requires far more than just bravado about cleaning house and randomly moving people around. It requires a personality that can get buy in from entrenched bureaucratic fiefdoms, and who is thoughtful and politically shrewd.

Contrary to the bluster here, Federal appointees can't get anywhere acting like Stalins, threatening to fire, imprison, or execute "traitors". It won't work in a civil service with unions, and in a legal culture that slows decision implementation to a crawl.
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…