Performance Enhancing Drugs In Sports

[Ethereal]

Ramirez and Ortiz...cheaters.

They should be banned from baseball for life, along with anyone else on that list, but they won't be because nobody cares about principles anymore.

I can't wait to hear the silly arguments which try to justify the farce that is PEDs.

Muscle-freaks are more fun to watch!

Yea, because sports were NEVER fun to watch before athletes had access to chemically engineered, muscle building cocktails.

Personally, I can't wait till they invent a drug that lets you hit a home run every time you step up to bat! That way baseball will be ever MORE SUPER FUN! WOOOOOO!

Baseball is baseball. If you can't enjoy it without seeing some juiced up terds blasting homers and slacking on defense, then you shouldn't be watching.

At least they won't get into the Hall of Fame.

 

[rivrrat]

Ramirez and Ortiz...cheaters.

They should be banned from baseball for life, along with anyone else on that list, but they won't be because nobody cares about principles anymore.

I can't wait to hear the silly arguments which try to justify the farce that is PEDs.

Muscle-freaks are more fun to watch!

Yea, because sports were NEVER fun to watch before athletes had access to chemically engineered, muscle building cocktails.

Personally, I can't wait till they invent a drug that lets you hit a home run every time you step up to bat! That way baseball will be ever MORE SUPER FUN! WOOOOOO!

Baseball is baseball. If you can't enjoy it without seeing some juiced up terds blasting homers and slacking on defense, then you shouldn't be watching.

At least they won't get into the Hall of Fame.

I don't have an issue with performance enhancing drugs.

I also don't watch sports because they're boring as all ****.

 

[1069]

Yeah, I hate sports, but don't really see the problem with these drugs (besides that they're illegal, I guess).
True, it raises the bar to the point that "non-modified" athletes have a hard time competing, but you might as well ban rhinoplasty, silicone lips and breasts, and liposuction from the Miss America pageant, for the same reason.
Those women make considerable sacrifices (including, in some cases, sacrificing their future health and longevity) in order to be surgically altered to compete and win.
The athletes who take these drugs also make considerable sacrifices, for the same reason; we all know the risks and side effects associated these drugs.
If they're willing to shoulder that burden, why not just let them, and enjoy the show, kind of like we do with beauty pageants? Knowing it's unnatural and that these people have been chemically/surgically altered/enhanced does not take away from the entertainment value of the spectacle, does it?

What, specifically, are your objections to it?

 

[Orion]

Banning drugs has the same effect as it does in society at large: people still use them.

The only difference is that newer drugs will be invented that can be virtually invisible to modern methods of detection. So really, the bans just make the steroid industry more competitive.

Sportsmanship went out the window a long time ago, in domestic sports and international events like the olympics. It's all about being the best and showing up everyone else now.

I also agree that sports are boring as hell. Would much rather read a book.

 

[Ethereal]

What, specifically, are your objections to it?

It's cheating.

Why should we care that Barry Bonds broke both Hank Aaron's all-time HR record and Roger Maris's single-season HR record when he held an unfair advantage over both of them? Without the assistance of drugs he would have never hit those home runs, so why should I be impressed with him when the success he garnered was largely the consequence of drugs?

It's a perversion of sports.

Sports are supposed to be about competition in its natural state. PEDs take away from that experience and cheapen the game by introducing something wholly unnatural. Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire were NEVER meant to be as big as they were. I mean, where does it stop!? Horse steroids? I guess, as long as they can pump out a couple of 100 HR seasons before their heart's explode, then why not, right?

It sets a bad example for children.

Like it or not, star athletes are role models for children who play sports. This steroid-culture is already seeping into our high schools and I'll be damned if these muscle-bound freaks are going to legitimize drug-use amongst young athletes.

PEDs are BS. Sports have ALWAYS been fun for me to watch. I don’t need these dick-holes ruining it with their juvenile insistence on being SUPER HUGE AND AWESOME HOME RUN SMASHERS, YEA!!!

 

[Kal'Stang]

I personally don't care what they do. The only "sport" that I don't mind watching is WWE wrestling. And thats more of an entertainment show than a sports show. I don't even think that it can be considered a sports show anymore.

 

[NortheastCynic]

It's cheating.

Why should we care that Barry Bonds broke both Hank Aaron's all-time HR record and Roger Maris's single-season HR record when he held an unfair advantage over both of them? Without the assistance of drugs he would have never hit those home runs, so why should I be impressed with him when the success he garnered was largely the consequence of drugs?

It's a perversion of sports.

Sports are supposed to be about competition in its natural state. PEDs take away from that experience and cheapen the game by introducing something wholly unnatural. Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire were NEVER meant to be as big as they were. I mean, where does it stop!? Horse steroids? I guess, as long as they can pump out a couple of 100 HR seasons before their heart's explode, then why not, right?

It sets a bad example for children.

Like it or not, star athletes are role models for children who play sports. This steroid-culture is already seeping into our high schools and I'll be damned if these muscle-bound freaks are going to legitimize drug-use amongst young athletes.

PEDs are BS. Sports have ALWAYS been fun for me to watch. I don’t need these dick-holes ruining it with their juvenile insistence on being SUPER HUGE AND AWESOME HOME RUN SMASHERS, YEA!!!

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

It's that simple, and it's a shame to see the degree to which cheating is applauded and defended in sports nowadays...Actually it's a disgrace. I full agree with your statement that cheaters should be banned for life; the only way to eradicate cheating is to make the penalty for cheating so severe that no intelligent (or even stupid) individual would risk the penalty.

-NC

 

[WI Crippler]

I've been enjoying watching sports over the last couple of decades that the PED issue has been around. So apparently I can enjoy watching athletes who have used some kind of PED.

Do I think institutions should stop testing for banned substances? So long as they are illegal, no. With regards to the role model issue, there needs to be standards regarding athletes engaging in illegal activities and punishments for them when they are in violation.

People never argue against records in sports, where the equipment is different form era to era. Is Tiger Woods to be denied his greatness should he surpass Nicklaus' majors record, or Sam Sneads PGA victory mark, because he hasn't been playing with a balata ball and persimmon driver?

 

[NEUROSPORT]

the only real problem with steroids is they set unrealistic standards for young kids to try and match in effect forcing them to use steroids as well.

we should be FREE to use steroids. we shouldn't be FORCED to use them.

an average guy in my gym is bigger than an average gold medalist at the olympics. when i was 20 i felt like taking steroids was the only way for me to be "part of the club" so to speak. and i was right.

one time when i was already on steroids and benching close to 400 pounds some kid asked me for an advice on how to work out but before i could answer my friend told the kid " you're not big enough to be talking to him "

now my friend meant it as a joke and said it with a smile but you know what they say - every joke is part joke and the rest is truth.

nobody ever told me how hard it would be to quit. it is damn near impossible and almost nobody ever does it. it's just like quitting smoking - you can only dream about it. i did it though. but i am a very odd person.

 

[pro-bipartisan]

Ramirez and Ortiz...cheaters.

They should be banned from baseball for life, along with anyone else on that list, but they won't be because nobody cares about principles anymore.

I can't wait to hear the silly arguments which try to justify the farce that is PEDs.

Muscle-freaks are more fun to watch!

Yea, because sports were NEVER fun to watch before athletes had access to chemically engineered, muscle building cocktails.

Personally, I can't wait till they invent a drug that lets you hit a home run every time you step up to bat! That way baseball will be ever MORE SUPER FUN! WOOOOOO!

Baseball is baseball. If you can't enjoy it without seeing some juiced up terds blasting homers and slacking on defense, then you shouldn't be watching.

At least they won't get into the Hall of Fame.

You are stupid for two reasons:

A. You can't ban anyone who is on that list because steroids weren't illegal until after the tests were taken.

B. The majority of people in baseball take steroids so banning everyone who takes them would destroy baseball. If you take it you are only evening the playing field because odds are that your opponent are using them.

So yeah you really are stupid for wanting to ban anyone on that list since steroids weren't illegal then.

 

[OxymoronP]

Yes we expect them to play great, play hurt and entertain. We expect huge home runs, and tough hits, we expect them to be super human anything else means your a bum. You dont perform to this standard you dont have a job. I blame you fat joes sitting on your asses popping viagras and drinking caronas for this epidemic, these fine sportsman kill their bodies to entertain you to play hurt to play tough. SO **** YOU!

 

[NortheastCynic]

You are stupid for two reasons:

A. You can't ban anyone who is on that list because steroids weren't illegal until after the tests were taken.

B. The majority of people in baseball take steroids so banning everyone who takes them would destroy baseball. If you take it you are only evening the playing field because odds are that your opponent are using them.

So yeah you really are stupid for wanting to ban anyone on that list since steroids weren't illegal then.

Steroids were, in fact, illegal in 2003.

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Steroids have been illegal since '01. There was just very little in terms of a penalty to give the rules some teeth.

Second, you don't know that the majority of people in baseball take steroids. Neither does anyone. Cheating against cheaters is cheating.

Cheater v. Cheater = not cheating does not make sense, at all. The bottom line is the stuff is illegal, if you want to treat illegal substances the same as you would legal substances, there is no point in making them illegal.

-NC

 

[pro-bipartisan]

Second, you don't know that the majority of people in baseball take steroids. Neither does anyone. Cheating against cheaters is cheating.

Cheater v. Cheater = not cheating does not make sense, at all. The bottom line is the stuff is illegal, if you want to treat illegal substances the same as you would legal substances, there is no point in making them illegal.

-NC

Fine, the players on the teams who win championships take steroids. Basically, the rule is to be the best you have to take steroids because if you don't take steroids you're screwed.

 

[NortheastCynic]

Fine, the players on the teams who win championships take steroids. Basically, the rule is to be the best you have to take steroids because if you don't take steroids you're screwed.

No, the rule is 'you cannot take steroids because you have agreed not to by virtue of signing with an MLB franchise'. That's the rule.

What you just wrote was an excuse to break it.

-NC