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People are losing jobs due to social media posts about Charlie Kirk -NPR

hecatmoggie said:
so during Biden years, there was no censoring of media? nobody was forced to anything they wasn't wanting to do? Facebook wasn't pressured to censor for misinformation etc ?

c'mon man ....
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They sure did!

Zuckerberg says the White House pressured Facebook to 'censor' some COVID-19 content during the pandemic

Zuckerberg alleges that the officials, including those from the White House, "repeatedly pressured" Facebook for months to take down "certain COVID-19 content including humor and satire."
www.pbs.org
 
hecatmoggie said:
so during Biden years, there was no censoring of media? nobody was forced to anything they wasn't wanting to do? Facebook wasn't pressured to censor for misinformation etc ?

c'mon man ....
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That is not what I am arguing. Whether one believes the Biden Admin went to far in trying to censor Covid misinformation, you are making an absurd comparison.

What was the motivation?

In the case of the Biden Admin, we were in the worst pandemic in a century. At the time, we had vaccines that reduced Covid fatalities and hospitalizations by over 98%, yet, a large percentage of Americans were avoiding vaccination due to vaccine misinformation, as a result, quite literally hundreds of thousands of Americans were dying needlessly. So the motivation for the Biden Administration was to prevent the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. Whether you think they were right or wrong is a different question, but by any measure, their motivation was a good one.

In the case of the Trump Admin, their motivation is pure politics. They aren't trying to save lives. They aren't trying to further American interests, they are simply trying to suppress information Trump doesn't like.

If you think those are comparable, then I don't know what to tell because I do not know how to explain a conscience to someone.
 

yes they did ... that is what liberals today are calling "fascism" but it wasn't when their Democrat Party/Biden administration did it ... was it ?
 
hecatmoggie said:
those are all snippets taking out of context - they're lies put together by hate to lead sheep into thinking a certain way

are you a sheep ?
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What "context"? Keep genuflecting before Saint Charlie, it's such a great look. The "sheep" are those taken in by Kirk's racism, bigotry, homophobia and misogyny. To Taylor Swift; "submit to your husband".
This isn't 1625 any longer, and Kirk was a pseudo-religious fruit cake. Does your wife/partner submit to you? You can make all the excuses you like, but it doesn't mask the reality or the truth about Kirk.
 
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then what you are really saying is that if a person thinks the motivation of the Fed Govt is a good one ... then that justifies the compromising of Freedoms and Rights

you justify all that was done during covid

many right now are justifying all that's being done because of a political assassination


they're self justifying just like you are - you have to support that, right ?
 
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hecatmoggie said:
yes they did ... that is what liberals today are calling "fascism" but it wasn't when their Democrat Party/Biden administration did it ... was it ?
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See, when some crank on Facebook recommends 'cures' for a disease which might kill you-like Ivermectin, it makes 100% sense to censor these lunatics.

Adverse drug reactions associated with ivermectin use for COVID-19 reported in the World Health Organization's pharmacovigilance database - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Do you take medical advice from social media? Many who are now dead, did.
 
snakestretcher said:
What "context"? Keep genuflecting before Saint Charlie, it's such a great look. The "sheep" are those taken in by Kirk's racism, homophobia and misogyny. To Taylor Swift; "submit to your husband".
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the above bold is liberal media lies

let me ask this .... Kirk did say for a Christian marriage for the wife to submit to husband. That's Biblical. Do you know what Charlie did every Saturday morning? He wrote love notes to his wife. Never missed a single Saturday. At the end he wrote" 'Please let me know how I can better serve you as a husband.'"

he was submitting to her equally - do you understand how that works? Kelce will submit to Taylor EQUALLY (if they're Christian marriage) and together through God the marriage will thrive

see ?

snakestretcher said:
This isn't 1625 any longer, and Kirk was a pseudo-religious fruit cake. Does your wife/partner submit to you? You can make all the excuses you like, but it doesn't mask the reality or the truth about Kirk.
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what do you think the reality is now ? I'm showing you videos and full context of the media lies ... Charlie Kirk wasn't racist/sexist/hateful/mean .... Jimmy Kimmel lost his show because of what he said, Charlie lost his life





CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): But maybe one of the reasons why Taylor Swift has been so, just, kind of annoyingly liberal over the last couple of years is that she's not yet married and she doesn't have children. I say this non-sarcastically. I say this as a husband and a father. Having children changes you. Getting married changes you, and I hope that America's biggest pop star marrying the pharmaceutical spokesperson ends up conservatizing them. Taylor Swift might deradicalize herself. She might come back down to reality. I want them to have lots of children. It teaches something about -- teaches you something about yourself.

...

Taylor Swift might go from a cat lady to a JD Vance supporter, and I think we should celebrate that. I think that Taylor Swift having two or three children -- she should have more children than she has houses. That is my challenge, Taylor Swift. And I'm not being sarcastic. I think that if she ends up having children, she'll stop this kind of liberal endorsing Joe Biden nonsense.

And we want Taylor Swift on team America. We want you to leave the island of the wokeys. And we would welcome you with open arms. One of the reasons why so many people on the right have been just skeptical or at least a little bit negative on Taylor Swift is, up until this point, that's not a great role model for young women, to wait all the way until you're 35 and just put your career first. We just talked about this with Katie Miller. However, there's a great chance to change that.

It's a great chance for Taylor Swift now to get married and have a ton of children. You can certainly afford it, Taylor.

...

All kidding and sarcasm aside, this is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative. Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge.

And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelce concert. I can't say it without laughing. You've got to change your name. If not, you don't really mean it.
 
hecatmoggie said:
yes they did ... that is what liberals today are calling "fascism" but it wasn't when their Democrat Party/Biden administration did it ... was it ?
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Of course not, that was “different”. Like always
 
If you don't take into account motivation, then you will end up making absurd comparisons like comparing a politician using the government to bully media companies he doesn't like, to actions by administrations during times of severe national crisis like actions taken by FDR during the Great Depression, Lincoln during the Civil War, or in this case, the Biden Administration during the deadliest pandemic in a century.
 

Too far, Biden: Federal judge rules president can't censor our social media feeds

A federal judge issued a damning opinion and preliminary injunction preventing the Biden administration from meddling with social media platforms.
www.usatoday.com
 
TamleeB said:
Of course not, that was “different”. Like always
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If one person lies to their child about flushing their gold fish down the toilet while another person lies about an affair, is it the same?

You support someone that is utterly reprehensible. Yet, you want to tell yourself "I am a good person and I would never support a bad person, or if I did support a bad person, they are all bad...", so you engage in rationalizations to make yourself feel better about supporting a reprehensible person.
 
I agree it was too far. I am saying there is a huge difference between going to far to prevent hundreds of thousands of needless American deaths and going to far simply because you don't like what someone says about you.
 
I support the President of the United States. If you believe that makes me a “bad person”, so be it.
I feel no need to prove my worthiness to some stranger on a political message forum.
 
ALiberalModerate said:
I agree it was too far. I am saying there is a huge difference between going to far to prevent hundreds of thousands of needless American deaths and going to far simply because you don't like what someone says about you.
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There is no proof that anything said or not said would “prevent hundreds of thousands of needless deaths”.
 
TamleeB said:
I support the President of the United States. If you believe that makes me a “bad person”, so be it.
I feel no need to prove my worthiness to some stranger on a political message forum.
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I know you likely don't understand this, but it is quite frustrating debating people that are incapable of significantly criticizing their own side and thus incapable of being even handed.
I criticize people on the left and actions of leftwing members and politicians on here all the time. There is a freedom in actually thinking for yourself. People have to choose that freedom for themselves though, no one can make you.
 
TamleeB said:
There is no proof that anything said or not said would “prevent hundreds of thousands of needless deaths”.
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Vaccine misinformation was rampant at the time and was resulting in tens of millions of Americans avoiding vaccination due to that misinformation. Over 98% of Covid fatalities and hospitalizations at the time were unvaccinated. Right or wrong, that is what the Biden Administration was trying to combat. Y'all are comparing that to the Trump Administration threatening media companies simply because they don't like what is being said about Trump or about figures on the right.

If you somehow need to make that ridiculous comparison out of some need for rationalization, then go ahead.
 
ALiberalModerate said:
If you don't take into account motivation,
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ok but your motivation, the party you align with ... that's wayyy different than someone else and they party THEY align with

do you see what I'm saying?


some people feel a national crisis is RIGHT NOW .... political assassination for disagreeing spawn from hate
 
Yes, I realize vaccine misinformation was rampant. Including that of President Biden.

Video of Biden Saying Vaccinations Prevent COVID Resurfac...

Exactly one year ago, the president claimed: "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."
www.newsweek.com
 
And let’s not forget President Biden’s misinformation.
“If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the ICU unit and you’re not going to die.” In another exchange moments later, Biden said that even if vaccinated people do “catch the virus,” they are “not likely to get sick.”
 
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