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Pentagon: No Plans to Change 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy After Court Ruling

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The military will not reinstate any gay service members discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy despite a judge's ruling last week that the policy is unconstitutional, the Pentagon said Monday. Though the ruling gave a boost to gay rights activists trying to overturn the policy via Congress and the courts, a Pentagon spokeswoman said the decision has no bearing on military policy.

"This ruling has no impact on the current law. The current law is still in effect," spokeswoman Cynthia Smith told FoxNews.com. She said the Justice Department and Defense Department are reviewing the decision, but that nothing will change without congressional action.



Darn it! No activist judge decisions to become law!

Damn that Constitution!


FOXNews.com - Pentagon: No Plans to Change 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy After Court Ruling
 

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The military will not reinstate any gay service members discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy despite a judge's ruling last week that the policy is unconstitutional, the Pentagon said Monday. Though the ruling gave a boost to gay rights activists trying to overturn the policy via Congress and the courts, a Pentagon spokeswoman said the decision has no bearing on military policy.

"This ruling has no impact on the current law. The current law is still in effect," spokeswoman Cynthia Smith told FoxNews.com. She said the Justice Department and Defense Department are reviewing the decision, but that nothing will change without congressional action.



Darn it! No activist judge decisions to become law!

Damn that Constitution!


FOXNews.com - Pentagon: No Plans to Change 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy After Court Ruling
Activist judge = one who rules in a way you do not like.

By the way, no one has claimed to my knowledge that this meant an immediate change or was the end of any process. Nice try though.
 

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Sounds like the military is doing what it's supposed to do - follow the laws/orders of it's civilian controllers.
 

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Activist judge = one who rules in a way you do not like.
Nope. Activst judge is one who sets out to supercede the law and the Constitution.

By the way, no one has claimed to my knowledge that this meant an immediate change or was the end of any process. Nice try though.
Check out the other thread. Many claimed this judge's decesion would force the military to bow to her will.
 

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I have no use what ever for activist Judges and i also think that once the Supreme Court rules on any subject it cn not be revisited in the future without a Constitutional Amendment. I am tired of new courts revisiting cases long since decided because some group or activist bunch of ninnies like the ACLU want to cause trouble and make the law in their own warped image.:rantoff:
 

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What makes Don't Ask, Don't Tell constitutional?
 

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What makes Don't Ask, Don't Tell constitutional?
the Congress is free to set whatever entry barriers it wishes for military service. flat feet and athsma, for example.

what makes it unconstitutional?
 

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the Congress is free to set whatever entry barriers it wishes for military service. flat feet and athsma, for example.

what makes it unconstitutional?
Yep just like the Army can set barriers that only whites can serve.......oh wait it can't. There are restrictions, the Army just isn't able to do whatever it wants as you think it can.
 

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I am tired of new courts revisiting cases long since decided because some group or activist bunch of ninnies like the ACLU want to cause trouble and make the law in their own warped image.:rantoff:
Awwwwwm poor little counciulman wants the right to discriminate against gays. Too bad, it will be overturned and then you and others will have to deal with it. Too bad you hate the consitution soo much.
 

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The military will not reinstate any gay service members discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy despite a judge's ruling last week that the policy is unconstitutional, the Pentagon said Monday. Though the ruling gave a boost to gay rights activists trying to overturn the policy via Congress and the courts, a Pentagon spokeswoman said the decision has no bearing on military policy.

"This ruling has no impact on the current law. The current law is still in effect," spokeswoman Cynthia Smith told FoxNews.com. She said the Justice Department and Defense Department are reviewing the decision, but that nothing will change without congressional action.



Darn it! No activist judge decisions to become law!

Damn that Constitution!


FOXNews.com - Pentagon: No Plans to Change 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy After Court Ruling
We were right when we said the judge has no business ruling on military issues.
 

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Yep just like the Army can set barriers that only whites can serve.......oh wait it can't. There are restrictions, the Army just isn't able to do whatever it wants as you think it can.
Race and choosing who you want to have sex with is not the same thing.
 

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Yep just like the Army can set barriers that only whites can serve.......oh wait it can't. There are restrictions, the Army just isn't able to do whatever it wants as you think it can.
Then how can they keep the policy?
 

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Nope. Activst judge is one who sets out to supercede the law and the Constitution.
Good thing that did not happen this time. Since you seem to think it did, you can of course point out where in the ruling it was "activist".

Check out the other thread. Many claimed this judge's decesion would force the military to bow to her will.
I read the entire thread, and I don't remember a single person claiming that this single ruling will end DADT. Perhaps you can point it out.
 

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the Congress is free to set whatever entry barriers it wishes for military service. flat feet and athsma, for example.

what makes it unconstitutional?
Those are not arbitrary barriers, those are health barriers that potentially make some one unfit for service. Banning gays, or DADT is arbitrary.
 

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I disagree with the DADT policy but until the SCOTUS rules its use as unconstitutional it technically is constitutional. The 9th Circuit shouldn't bother with stuff thats beyond its authority, its just a waste of time and tax payer dollars.
 

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I disagree with the DADT policy but until the SCOTUS rules its use as unconstitutional it technically is constitutional. The 9th Circuit shouldn't bother with stuff thats beyond its authority, its just a waste of time and tax payer dollars.
It's part of the process. The case does not go strait to SCOTUS, it has to go through the court system first. The 9th court did exactly what it is supposed to do, hear a challenge to a federal law. The repeated claims that the 9th does not have jurisdiction are hilarious but false.
 

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It's part of the process. The case does not go strait to SCOTUS, it has to go through the court system first. The 9th court did exactly what it is supposed to do, hear a challenge to a federal law. The repeated claims that the 9th does not have jurisdiction are hilarious but false.
they can rule all they want. until someone amends the UCMJ gays will have a hard time serving in the military. see UCMJ Article 125 - sodomy

gays can serve, they just can't have gay sex.
 

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they can rule all they want. until someone amends the UCMJ gays will have a hard time serving in the military. see UCMJ Article 125 - sodomy

gays can serve, they just can't have gay sex.
OK, you are new, so I will take it easy on you and explain this politely. Being gay is not an action. Being gay does not require sodomy. A large portion of gay people never engage in sodomy. Sodomy laws, if uniformly applied between straits and gays would be a total nonissue for gays. Don't suck a dick on base, you are probably fine. Article 125 has jack and **** to do with DADT. It's a complete and total red herring. A tiny percent of those discharged for DADT are charged with a violation of article 125.

Do you get the impression that article 125 is a bad argument? Good, because it is.
 

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OK, you are new, so I will take it easy on you and explain this politely. Being gay is not an action. Being gay does not require sodomy. A large portion of gay people never engage in sodomy. Sodomy laws, if uniformly applied between straits and gays would be a total nonissue for gays. Don't suck a dick on base, you are probably fine. Article 125 has jack and **** to do with DADT. It's a complete and total red herring. A tiny percent of those discharged for DADT are charged with a violation of article 125.

Do you get the impression that article 125 is a bad argument? Good, because it is.
facts are our friends.
 

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Judges are not supposed to rule..... They are to interpret the laws, not enforce them or make new laws out of them....
their interpretations are called rulings.
 

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the Congress is free to set whatever entry barriers it wishes for military service. flat feet and athsma, for example.

what makes it unconstitutional?
Those can be argued as justified and not discriminatory. Remember, laws have to have some reasonable justification other than we don't like it.
 

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Judges are not supposed to rule..... They are to interpret the laws, not enforce them or make new laws out of them....
And there are consititutional laws concerning discrimination. That is what they are suppose to do.
 
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