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Pennsylvania GOP Slams Dominion Systems For Canceling On Giving Testimony... to discuss voting irregularities

So why all the concern of an audit of the votes and the process. It will only reinforce your conclusion if thats true.
The concern is that it takes a long time to do and it will not get finished in time or will be used as an excuse to delay certifications and then actually getting delegates selected. Then, like we saw in Georgia, their results will be questioned anyway.
 
You’re making a big assumption here, which is that Powell is bluffing about bringing cases against them. And that she’s also bluffing about her assertion that the US military seized the Scytl server from Germany.

Dominion could have cleared all this mess up in an hour, but they chose to be evasive and cancel. Meanwhile, they are closing offices, and many employees are removing their LinkedIn profiles.
She's not bluffing. She's straight up lying.
 
You’re making a big assumption here, which is that Powell is bluffing about bringing cases against them. And that she’s also bluffing about her assertion that the US military seized the Scytl server from Germany.

Dominion could have cleared all this mess up in an hour, but they chose to be evasive and cancel. Meanwhile, they are closing offices, and many employees are removing their LinkedIn profiles.
I can find no information on Dominion closing offices or employees deleting there Linkedin accounts. If you have a source please provide the link.
 
You can shrug me off but I am not a lone voice in this. At least half the country probably more like 75% of this country does not believe our elections are legitimate.

actually it is less than 25%. Not even all you Trump worshipers think this, only some of you. And pretty much nobody else does
 
It doesn't need to be to satisfy me. I have already said that I would accept mail in ballots if the votes could be traced back to the person who cast the vote.

Can you trace in-person ballots back to the person that cast the ballot?
 
You are among a very small voice here. It is not "mail in" voting that the majority has issues with. That is only the majority of Republicans and that is because certain people have been leading them to believe it is bad and untrustworthy because those people know that such voting harms them.
How can you know how big or small the problem is if your not willing to audit the process?
 
The left doesn't actually care about anything but the fact that Joe Biden will be the president. They will never look at this issue and entertain the possibility that his win is illegitimate.
That is because unlike the low intellect imbeciles that push conspiracy theories for Trump they actually can tell the difference between reality and made up bull crap.
 
How can you know how big or small the problem is if your not willing to audit the process?
We have had audits of the process. And we can have as many audits as people want so long as they do not hold up this election. Biden won. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

How many times should we investigate 9/11 or whether the Earth is really round or if we really went to the moon before such conspiracy theories are deemed "crap some people made up"? It is on those bringing forth these sort of allegations to prove their assertions. It is not on others to continue to play along with them.
 
actually it is less than 25%. Not even all you Trump worshipers think this, only some of you. And pretty much nobody else does
Half the country does not even bother to vote and I would wager many of them don't because they believe the whole thing is rigged. In 2000 and in 2016 a majority or democrats said they believed the election was rigged against them. This year a majority of republicans say they don't believe the results are accurate. It seems reasonable enough to say the majority of people in this country do not have faith in our elections. That should be enough of a reason for a total recount and reforms where needed.
 
Either way, yes it does. But the military has to take orders from the President. The Postal Service is not nearly as forced into obedience. Not to mention the potential issues with not allowing communications from certain ships, places.

We already have a method of voting for military, families, college students, whoever that is secure and works, mail in ballots. Deal with it.
Knock of the nonsense responses like deal with it. The current system is flawed and there is nothing wrong with looking at ways to improve it. You deal with that.
 
You don't sign your ballot when you vote in person. You shouldn't have to sign it to vote by mail either. There is enough security there. Maybe people should stop trying to make so much out of nothing because Trump can't accept that he lost the election.
Your being ridiculous now if your gonna pretend there isn't a difference in the chain of custody for a mail in ballot and an in person one.
 
The concern is that it takes a long time to do and it will not get finished in time or will be used as an excuse to delay certifications and then actually getting delegates selected. Then, like we saw in Georgia, their results will be questioned anyway.
An audit of this nature should not delay the certification unless the totals are massively off.
 
And that she’s also bluffing about her assertion that the US military seized the Scytl server from Germany.

Which she is, because the Army straight up said they didn't.
 
Knock of the nonsense responses like deal with it. The current system is flawed and there is nothing wrong with looking at ways to improve it. You deal with that.
No, it really isn't "flawed" except for the fact that more people are being kept from voting. That is a fact. Some error and even some little bit of fraud will never go away because we are humans and not perfect. But no widespread fraud is happening. Even Trump's team couldn't find widespread fraud in 2017 from the 2016 election.
 
An audit of this nature should not delay the certification unless the totals are massively off.
They have already did audits and found no problems. They should not do more just to appease conspiracy theorists.
 
Your being ridiculous now if your gonna pretend there isn't a difference in the chain of custody for a mail in ballot and an in person one.
There is little enough difference for it to have any significant effect.

If we are to believe some of the affidavits that Trump and his lawyers and supporters have put forth, there was plenty of "fraud" with the in person votes going on. Or are we supposed to just ignore that?
 
You’re making a big assumption here, which is that Powell is bluffing about bringing cases against them. And that she’s also bluffing about her assertion that the US military seized the Scytl server from Germany.

Dominion could have cleared all this mess up in an hour, but they chose to be evasive and cancel. Meanwhile, they are closing offices, and many employees are removing their LinkedIn profiles.


So are members of the current administration, what’s your point?
 
Half the country does not even bother to vote and I would wager many of them don't because they believe the whole thing is rigged. In 2000 and in 2016 a majority or democrats said they believed the election was rigged against them. This year a majority of republicans say they don't believe the results are accurate. It seems reasonable enough to say the majority of people in this country do not have faith in our elections. That should be enough of a reason for a total recount and reforms where needed.

I do not think it has anything to do with it being rigged, that is a new thing just this election. Never has there been this kind of crying about rigging...you people really are sore losers.

There is two fold reason why people do not vote....first the winner take all system does not encourage voter turnout.

In just under 70% of the states the winning candidate won by more than 15%, meaning the state was never in question...everyone knew who was going to win before they went to the polls to vote.

The second is that with each proceeding election this millennia the quality of candidates have gotten worse and worse. The fact that the United States of America was stuck choosing between Biden or Trump is a national embarrassment. Choosing between those two is akin to choosing between syphilis or gonorrhea.
 
No but you can trace them back to where they cast their vote

How? Let's say someone pulls your ballot out of a stack of 10,000 ballots, how do they trace it back to where you cast it?

and how does that differ from the tracing my mail in ballot back to the county?
 
Your being ridiculous now if your gonna pretend there isn't a difference in the chain of custody for a mail in ballot and an in person one.

If you think there is a large difference, explain it to us.
 
Even if Trump loses his challenges do you really think he is gonna ride off into the sunset? This fight isn't even close to being over.
Of course he isn't going to ride of into the sunset.

No horse could carry him.
 
How transparent of them.

What are they hiding?

Why has their staff scrubbed their Twitter accounts?

Rep. Dawn Keefer later said at a press conference Friday that the GOP members had questions such as, “Were test runs done, conducted before the election? Were they done after the election?”


...“How do we know? Does Dominion use open-source software so that observers can go in and see exactly what switches are being turned on and turned off? We don’t know. Moreover, how tightly controlled is the source code, and who has control of that source code?”

Committee member Rep. Seth Grove snapped, “Instead of running towards the light of honesty and integrity, Dominion Voting Systems retreated to the darkness. Why?... If Dominion’s products were successful and operated as they were supposed to, why wouldn’t Dominion take the opportunity to publicly review its success?”

Claiming that Dominion had not released any post-election evidence to prove their result were accurate, he queried, “How hard is it to say ‘our ballot machines worked exactly as promised and they are 100 percent accurate’? … If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding from us?”

Give it up. Your Dirtbag lost and lost bigly and fairly. There was nothing to see at Dominion or anywhere else. Your side has failed miserably at every attempt to every turn. All you've got is lying and the country sees that.
 
Even if Trump loses his challenges do you really think he is gonna ride off into the sunset? This fight isn't even close to being over.

The fight is over, but that will not stop Trump from claiming till the day he dies that he was cheated.

And it will not stop his followers from believing he was cheated. Even if this goes to the Supreme Court and they rule against Trump you people would just say that SCOTUS is on on the scam.

Right now Trump supporters remind me of the lady that died of COVID while denying that COVID even exist.
 
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I do not think it has anything to do with it being rigged, that is a new thing just this election. Never has there been this kind of crying about rigging...you people really are sore losers.

There is two fold reason why people do not vote....first the winner take all system does not encourage voter turnout.

In just under 70% of the states the winning candidate won by more than 15%, meaning the state was never in question...everyone knew who was going to win before they went to the polls to vote.

The second is that with each proceeding election this millennia the quality of candidates have gotten worse and worse. The fact that the United States of America was stuck choosing between Biden or Trump is a national embarrassment. Choosing between those two is akin to choosing between syphilis or gonorrhea.
I don't disagree with some of your points and agree that they factor into why some of the people who chose not to vote made that choice. However pretending like being suspicious of voter fraud is a new phenomena when i have heard concerns about it for decades is somewhat of a whitewash job that your trying to do.
Ask bernie bros if they think the elections are rigged. They sure as hell thought so in 2016 against clinton.
 
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