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Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the [W:79]

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I love how Pelosi frightens the boomsticklovers. It's kind of like an unarmed kids making Zimmerman pee his pants and scream for help like a stuck pig.

Since the tea party and the GOP are demographically doomed, eventually -- probably sooner as opposed to later -- the US will have comprehensive gun control. I guess that's what really scares the boomsticklovers. It's going to be funny to watch the boomsticklovers whine like Zimmerman.

Why do you introduce your favorite phallic symbol into ever post? Gun control is for progressives, they shouldn't have guns.

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If the penalty was harsh enough instead of a slap on the wrist, yeah.



"...The guns of Columbine were old and new. They were manufactured in three states, promoted by catalog and telemarketer, sold at small gun stores and large gun shows. But in the end, all four were sold anonymously to teenagers, no questions asked, no background checks, no purchase forms, no signatures....read....
The Denver Post Online - Columbine - Tragedy and Recovery

The 18 year old girl who made the straw purchase for the Colombine teenage killers KNEW she was buying guns for her friends because they couldn't......and she was never arrrested.....

Loophole protects Columbine 'witness'

Death for capital murder hasn't stopped capital murder - your penalty argument is silly.
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

This if ****ing funny.I have to wonder what Constitution is she talking about.

Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitution « Hot Air Headlines

In a press release marking the one-year anniversary of the Aurora, Colorado shootings, the former Speaker of the House said: “In Congress, there can be no more fitting memorial to the lives lost in Aurora, in Newtown, and across the country than a concerted effort to enact commonsense gun safety legislation.
“We must uphold our oath to ‘protect and defend’ the constitution and all Americans by expanding background checks and keeping dangerous firearms out of the wrong hands.”

Common sense gun safety: a firm stance, careful aim and knowing what lies beyond your target. ;)
 
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Death for capital murder hasn't stopped capital murder - your penalty argument is silly.

Murderers that got death for capital murder seemed to have stopped murdering. Whats so silly about that?
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

Murderers that got death for capital murder seemed to have stopped murdering. Whats so silly about that?

rapists shot by their intended victims, robbers shot by homeowners or shopkeepers tend to stay deterred.

Yet you want safe working conditions for mopes and perverts
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

The definition of treason in the constitution is too short. Willful violation of constitutional oaths should be capital treason, Pelosi and many modern politicians really should be tried and hung for what they are attempting to do to our great republic.

I think hanging on national television would be salutary.
 
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Edify us as to what facts you have brought to bear in this debate. I honestly have not seen any

I honestly haven't seen you provide any facts to bear in this debate, either.
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

Another shiney object diversion.
Hey look, a squirrel.
A SQRL (status quo Republican losers) is something different. They must be defeated before we can defeat the Martxist, the socialists, the progressives, the liberals, and their fellow travelers in the Democratic Party.
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

I honestly haven't seen you provide any facts to bear in this debate, either.

I have no burden to support inalienable rights. The duty is on those who would restrict them
 
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I have no burden to support inalienable rights. The duty is on those who would restrict them

Then explain the state's ability to rent those very same "inalienable" 2A rights to their citizens via CCW permits or CHLs? ;)
 
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rapists shot by their intended victims, robbers shot by homeowners or shopkeepers tend to stay deterred.

Yet you want safe working conditions for mopes and perverts
Um, you've already admitted that you're protecting the right of the insane and criminals to keep and bear arms. So you only have yourself to blame if they're not deterred.
 
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Then explain the state's ability to rent those very same "inalienable" 2A rights to their citizens via CCW permits or CHLs? ;)

Obviously no big deal to those with more money than sense or backbones.
 
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Then explain the state's ability to rent those very same "inalienable" 2A rights to their citizens via CCW permits or CHLs? ;)

because if things had remained as they should, only the states would have had that power under the tenth amendment (as limited by their own constitutions). The Bill of rights was intended only to apply to the federal government.
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

Feeling nostaligic for those old necktie parties, are ya?
Yes. Politicians are our only native criminal class. If we cannot hang a few from time to time perhaps we can bring back crucifixions.

If we grabbed the first five federal criminals that came into our towns and nailed them to nearby trees we would find the rest far easier to manage. Don't you agree?
 
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Obviously no big deal to those with more money than sense or backbones.

given all the intrusions into our rights, do you honestly think that states were going to go from no right to carry to carrying concealed without any restrictions. Your main fixation seems to be you cannot afford a CCW permit in Texas-which I understand is ridiculously expensive. That is something the citizens should take care of
 
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because if things had remained as they should, only the states would have had that power under the tenth amendment (as limited by their own constitutions). The Bill of rights was intended only to apply to the federal government.

You are getting way out there now, TD. Only some of the amendments restrict congress, e.g. the 1A, a right of the people, like the 2A, makes no distinction on limittng only the federal gov't's actions. Do you assert that a state may constitutionally issue go to church permits or have an attorney present during police questioning permits as well?
 
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I have no burden to support inalienable rights. The duty is on those who would restrict them

That made absolutely zero sense. Inalienable rights are inalienable and endowed by the creator. Carrying a gun was not endowed by the creator.
 
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Um, you've already admitted that you're protecting the right of the insane and criminals to keep and bear arms. So you only have yourself to blame if they're not deterred.

stop the stupidity. I have no problem with state governments penalizing the criminal misuse of weapons or prosecuting those who have proven themselves (and to a court) to be incapable of owning weapons when they possess such items
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

You are getting way out there now, TD. Only some of the amendments restrict congress, e.g. the 1A, a right of the people, like the 2A, makes no distinction on limittng only the federal gov't's actions. Do you assert that a state may constitutionally issue go to church permits or have an attorney present during police questioning permits as well?

I really don't have time to teach you about the 14th amendment and the activist nature of the Supreme Court in applying the Bill of RIghts to states via the 14th amendment.

You tend to lose all perspective over the fact you cannot afford a permit
 
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That made absolutely zero sense. Inalienable rights are inalienable and endowed by the creator. Carrying a gun was not endowed by the creator.

where was the federal government delegated the power you claim it has

and self defense is an inalienable right-bearing arms is part of that

why don't you just list all the infringements on our rights you support rather than playing a silly cat and mouse games
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

given all the intrusions into our rights, do you honestly think that states were going to go from no right to carry to carrying concealed without any restrictions. Your main fixation seems to be you cannot afford a CCW permit in Texas-which I understand is ridiculously expensive. That is something the citizens should take care of

Open carry (of a loaded handgun) is basically banned in Texas as well. Reality is that most Teaxs LEOs could care less so long as you act civilized while they are present and are not responding to a compliant about your gun being carried on the property of another.
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

because if things had remained as they should, only the states would have had that power under the tenth amendment (as limited by their own constitutions). The Bill of rights was intended only to apply to the federal government.

Good. I'm going to put your quote in my sig so you won't forget it and the next time you or someone else says the second amendment protects an individuals right to bear and keep arms, I'll just point to my sig and say, "well, TD says it doesn't." lol
 
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Good. I'm going to put your quote in my sig so you won't forget it and the next time you or someone else says the second amendment protects an individuals right to bear and keep arms, I'll just point to my sig and say, "well, TD says it doesn't." lol

I guess you cannot fathom the fact that I have also said that the 14th amendment has been used to change that paradigm
 
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That made absolutely zero sense. Inalienable rights are inalienable and endowed by the creator. Carrying a gun was not endowed by the creator.
The right to self-defense is inherent in our being. The Second Amendment merely recognizes it.
 
Re: Pelosi: We must pass gun control because we swore an oath to uphold the Constitut

I love how Pelosi frightens the boomsticklovers. It's kind of like an unarmed kids making Zimmerman pee his pants and scream for help like a stuck pig.

Since the tea party and the GOP are demographically doomed, eventually -- probably sooner as opposed to later -- the US will have comprehensive gun control. I guess that's what really scares the boomsticklovers. It's going to be funny to watch the boomsticklovers whine like Zimmerman.
Conservatism is not doomed demographicly. the message of less government apeaks to all races. Also if we are so racist why do we have more minority congressmen than the progressives.
 
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