- Dec 14, 2005
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- Political Leaning
So it's ok for one elected official (Bush) to do it but not another (Pelosi)?
Actually - yes. Study your American Goverment! The President DOES have the authority and power to negotiate treaties, to enter into negotiations, etc. The Speaker of the House DOES NOT! Doing these things are well out of the boundaries of her responsibilities.
Again, the Logan Act of 1790 was created specifically to prevent a situation like this - a lone Congressman or Senator who disagrees with a sitting U.S. President, disagreeing with that President's Foreign Policy, and deciding to go 'rogue' - disobeying the foreign policy of that President, and going out to create/establish his or her OWN foreign policy.
I have heard even stronger talk from partisan parties who, IMO, are pushing the envelope, talking about having Pelosi charged for treason. Their argument goes like this:
Syria has been physically proven to be supporting terrorism and have physically aided in attacks against Israel. Syrian fighters have also been captured and killed in Iraq, attempting to kill Americans. Therefoe we are at war with Syria - an un-declared/un-official 3rd-party type of war rather than head-to-head conflict - and Pelosi met with, negotiated with, and aided and abetted the leader of the terrorist regime - our enemy. They liken her actions to Kerry when he met with leaders of North Viet Nam in Paris, while we were at war, as a citizen and NOT a representative of the U.S., to negotiate his country's (the U.S.) surrender.
Personally, you have to put a lot of pieces together and assume a lot to buy that argument, and that is way too much for me. The Logan Act, however, is simple and straight forward. It is spelled out and clearly defined. There is no doubt that she violated this act - no assumptions have to be made. All you have to do is read the act and look at her actions.
She ignored set/established foreign policy because she simply disagreed. she sought to establish her own foreign policy. She also sought to undermine the power of the President, to embarass him, AND to get major media attention. She did not speak on behalf of herself because the word of Nancy Pelosi means nothing. She spoke on behalf of the United States, as a representative of the United States Goverment, which she had no authority to do.
Everyone there knew of President Bush's foreign policy of isolating Syria, so she had to pull another 'card' - she chose Israel. She had already contacted Ohlmert regarding her meeting in Syria, and he told her he thought the meeting was a mistake - NOT 'you speak for Israel, go and tell Assad we are ready to return to the table.' She declared to Assad and the world, however, that she DID speak for Israel and Ohlmert and that their message was that Israel WAS ready to return to the peace talk tables. Pelosi and the Libs take very lightly the little 'speed bump to peace' that is Syrias belief that Israel does NOT have the RIGHT TO EXIST and believes such a tiny issue should not stand in the way of peace. :roll: After all, several countries (and Americans evidently) believe we should have no right to exist, and it doesn't stop us....of course, no one is acting on that belief by kidnapping our soldier, killing our women and children by suicide bombings, and lobbing shells across our border!
Maybe you do not see the harm of an individual politician dis-agreeing with the President, disobeying a ban on a nation,and going their to negotiate on their own in the name of the entire United states.
Hopefully you will see the harm of a politician, especially one in such a high seat/position in our goverment, traveling to a terrorist state to NEGOTIATE with that terrorist leader on behalf of a 3rd Part/Nation WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION, especially when that terrorist nation has been responsible for the deaths of hyndred os their people, the kidnapping of their soldiers, and their existence threatened while they continue to demand that Israel does NOT have the right to even exist!
HOPEFULLY you will see and admit to the damage that has been done by the Speaker of the House, after illegally negotiating with a terrorist leader on behalf of Israel, which she had no authority to do, being called a LIAR in front of the whole world by Ohlmert, the leader of Israel!
If you don't see the damage Pelosi has caused, though not GRAVE, and the problem with infividual politicians who do not have the authority by law to negotiate with nations doing so anyway, then we have a bigger problem in this country than Pelosi running around the world speaking on behalf of anyone she feels like!