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Peace Propaganda and the Promise Land (documentary film) (1 Viewer)

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Peace Propaganda and the Promise Land

This must see video provides a striking comparison of U.S. and international media coverage of the crisis in the Middle East, zeroing in on how structural distortions in U.S. coverage have reinforced false perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This pivotal documentary exposes how the foreign policy interests of American political elites–oil, and a need to have a secure military base in the region, among others–work in combination with Israeli public relations strategies to exercise a powerful influence over how news from the region is reported. Through the voices of scholars, media critics, peace activists, religious figures, and Middle East experts, Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land carefully analyzes and explains how–through the use of language, framing and context–the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza remains hidden in the news media, and Israeli colonization of the occupied terrorities appears to be a defensive move rather than an offensive one. The documentary also explores the ways that U.S. journalists, for reasons ranging from intimidation to a lack of thorough investigation, have become complicit in carrying out Israel’s PR campaign. At its core, the documentary raises questions about the ethics and role of journalism, and the relationship between media and politics.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696&hl=en
 
I watched it. Very one sided. Basically Counter- Propaganda, which in turn was propoganda itself.
 
Rightwing86 said:
I watched it. Very one sided. Basically Counter- Propaganda, which in turn was propoganda itself.
What else would you expect from a member of nationalvanguard.org - a white racist/anti-Semitic organization for wannabe stormtroopers?
 
Shayah said:
What else would you expect from a member of nationalvanguard.org - a white racist/anti-Semitic organization for wannabe stormtroopers?

Eh, wtf that document has to do with the NV ?

:doh
 
Rightwing86 said:
I watched it. Very one sided. Basically Counter- Propaganda, which in turn was propoganda itself.

:doh

:roll:

Do you really claim that it´s just propaganda ?

You should really check the facts again.
 
White said:
:doh

:roll:

Do you really claim that it´s just propaganda ?

You should really check the facts again.


Truth be told White...anything you post at this point, will be considered Propoganda. You have been labeled Racist, and it seems rightfully so. Most members of this site do not consider your statements/Posts anything worth a serious discussion.....you have brought it upon yourself.


Time to sleep in the bed you have made.
 
Let's see - there are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and just 16 million Jewish people.

Now, who do you think uses their vast numerical advantage to win the world wide propaganda war?
 
tecoyah said:
Truth be told White...anything you post at this point, will be considered Propoganda. You have been labeled Racist, and it seems rightfully so. Most members of this site do not consider your statements/Posts anything worth a serious discussion.....you have brought it upon yourself.


Time to sleep in the bed you have made.

LOL!!!!!

Have you watched the video ? What the got to do with my believes ? :lol:

Ok, you have that victim tactic again, "mmaky, i think he´s a evil racist, i won´t look any of he´s posts or videos, they just must be false or propaganda whatever what the video says or whoever has made the video. If the racist says that Bush is US president i can't believe, cause i have been told not to believe."

Now that´s what i call pathetic and why you even post to this topic if you don´t even have "guts" to look the video wich has nothing to do with my beliefs. There are for example many jews (peace activists) interviewed on that video and the video shows why they are so harmfull to Israels tactics and that´s why those voices are marginalized.

I don't actually care about you and your opinions cause from your posts i think that you just want to cencor the video what is in post. It too harmfull.

But nobody can´t hide the truth about what kind of "human rights" palestinians have...

And when you talk about the most members, you just hope so, cause that would be against your agenda. There are lot of people who want to get the all material about the situation in middle east before they make their opinion.

You should let people talk with their own mouth, not just hope and try to make them ignore everything i say.

And you make a HUGE mistake when you consider that it´s MY FILM, me or my believes has nothing to do with that video. Palestinians have right to have their own countru like any other nation.

Sorry about the mistakes, my english is pretty bad.
 
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Gardener said:
Let's see - there are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and just 16 million Jewish people.

Now, who do you think uses their vast numerical advantage to win the world wide propaganda war?

Look the video...

And i can show you that if you want to. :2wave:

And there are not many lands who supports Israels actions...
 
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Do you actually KNOW what Propaganda is:

prop·a·gan·da Audio pronunciation of "Propaganda" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prp-gnd)
n.

1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.

Thus, because you have an shown a defined reason for being here, which has little to do with Political Debate, and much to do with forwarding a cause, Your posts can be labeled as Propaganda.
 
tecoyah said:
Do you actually KNOW what Propaganda is:

prop·a·gan·da Audio pronunciation of "Propaganda" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prp-gnd)
n.

1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.

Thus, because you have an shown a defined reason for being here, which has little to do with Political Debate, and much to do with forwarding a cause, Your posts can be labeled as Propaganda.

It´s very clear that you haven´t watched the video, cause you don´t have any idea what are you talkiing about.

The video is EXPOSING the war propaganda and i or my believes has nothing to do with the video so why are all the time talking about me ?

The truth doesn´t change no matter who post it here and that video doesn´t change no matter who posts it here...

:roll:
 
I´m really suprised that they have not removed it....

:rofl
 
Israel, my advice is drop the "victim-role" and think why you are disliked.

Like Henry Kissinger once said.

"a people who have been persecuted for 2000 years must be doing something wrong."

If you continue doing what you are doing right now, you just get more enemies.
 
Originally posted by White:
Lebanon and Israel Facts that the Media Isn't Telling You
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...8984&q=lebanon
That's pretty heavy stuff. So Israel fired the first shot so to speak. I hate what Israel does to it's neighbor's. I don't like what it's neighbor's do to Israel. But if anyone should stop shooting first, it should be Israel.
 
Originally posted by Rightwing86
I watched it. Very one sided. Basically Counter- Propaganda, which in turn was propoganda itself.
What a cop-out! How convenient.
 
Originally posted by Shayah
What else would you expect from a member of nationalvanguard.org - a white racist/anti-Semitic organization for wannabe stormtroopers?
Instead of an ad hom, how about addressing the points he was making? I for one do not believe in any way Israel has halo's over their head. I also will not give them carte blanche to do anything they want today just because they suffered the holocaust years ago.

What happened fifty years ago was a tragedy that should never be repeated. But the more I am looking at Isreals reactions and treatment of the Palestinians, history IS starting to repeat! And I could care less if that is anti-semitic.
 
White, Tecoya is correct (at least in my case) that your screen name has been "tainted" by your ideology. I ignored your OP for that reason. This same video was linked at another site by a member who has my respect, and I watched it in it's entirety. That hour and twenty minutes was well spent and I had a number of poorly informed beliefs challenged.

If you are serious in promoting discussion and debate, needs to be more than a link and comment to "watch this." Tell us why you think this video is worth the time it takes to watch. For example,"this video provides a cogent argument by both Israeli and Palistinian moderates, that peace can not be achieved until there is a more balanced view of the conflict by the US media. It then lays out seven public relation strategies that are used to manipulate what we see in our press. I found their arguments compelling and I am interested in your take."

Instead of encouraging a discussion, you list another half dozen video links without any comment on content. Your method becomes rather problematic, wouldn't you agree?


BTW folks, the video is excellent and a good stepping off point for a discussion of potential media bias or manipulation that limits the information that we are receiving.
 
Pen said:
BTW folks, the video is excellent and a good stepping off point for a discussion of potential media bias or manipulation that limits the information that we are receiving.

I know...I spent the time as well, and found it interesting to say the least. I refused to state as much in this thread, as it only played into the hands of an admitted Bigot, and I do not play with those....unless I mean to destroy them.
 
Originally posted by Pen:
Instead of encouraging a discussion, you list another half dozen video links without any comment on content. Your method becomes rather problematic, wouldn't you agree?
You make a valid point. Another perspective is that there is enough information in his post to provide for anyone who "really" wants to know the truth, can get more pieces of the puzzle from his links. People that don't want to know the truth, will blow it off without ever reading it. And so, for those people, I don't feel the need to gift wrap the information for them and give it to them on their birthday. Why should someone go to all the work of compiling evidence when these people will just trash it anyway?
 

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