Patriots at the gate... Americans preparing for battle against govt...

[Winchester]

REDMOND, Ore. — B.J. Soper took aim with his AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and fired a dozen shots at a human silhouette target. Soper’s wife and their 16-year-old daughter practiced drawing pistols. Then Soper helped his 4-year-old daughter, in pink sneakers and a ponytail, work on her marksmanship with a .22-caliber rifle.
“The intent is to be able to work together and defend ourselves if we need to,” said Soper, 40, a building contractor who is an emerging leader in a growing national movement rooted in distrust of the federal government, one that increasingly finds itself in armed conflicts with authorities.

These ‘patriots’ want to protect the Constitution…by any means necessary | The Washington Post

IDK that I'd go as far as calling them Patriots...

 

[RetiredUSN]

When white people finally have enough and begin voicing their own concerns, the white guilt party, will always refer those angry whites as being racists and KKK members.

Never fails.

I stopped apologizing for being a white, anglo saxon, Irish Catholic, about 45 years ago.

 

[MickeyW]

an ant has a better chance at taking down a steamroller than a dozen pissed off survivalists have at overthrowing the government with AR-15s. and yes, we do have free elections. i agree with you about the party bull****, though. i'd probably support a constitutional amendment to ban them at this point.

They aren't talking about the overthrow of the govt. it's only about survival ..........if the govt. steps outside the law! obama and Hillary have done it several times already!

How is that not unconstitutional?

It is and obama and Hillary....don't care!

A federal building with a day care center inside.

Hospital with dozens of aid workers inside!

Remember that hospital that was bombed by the military? I do.

Me too!

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Oklahoma City is a perfect example. Blowing up a building full of innocent people goes well over the line.

Malheur Bird Sanctuary crosses the same line even if no one blew up a building.
Sorry, you do NOT get to assemble your own private army and declare a federal property your new embassy.
Sovereign citizens are domestic terrorists. Kill em all, let God sort em out.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Ah, but see, here's the thing---- drone strikes may have killed innocent people, upon occasion, but they've also killed thousands of terrorists.

While the Oklahoma City bombing did nothing but kill hundreds of people and get the Feds to get even more serious about going after militia groups when they violated the law.

Drone warfare is the very very worst form of warfare, except for all the other forms.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I am a bit of a prepper myself.

Ammo
Seeds
First aid kits
Canned goods
Crank radio
Telescopic fishing rods
Water purification kits.

A lot of it is what I already use for the sailboat.

That's just good common sense.
I have much the same, but I am not preparing for war against the government and I doubt you are either.

 

[RetiredUSN]

In some states like California it is indeed a state felony to organize, drill, train, lead, and participate in a militia.

In other states like Michigan it obviously is not.

Please....... If you are going to post a statement like this, try doing a little research before you spout off.

Militia's are not illegal in California.

https://www.facebook.com/california...otif_t=feed_comment&notif_id=1463944206117243

California State Militia - Home

https://socalmilitia.wordpress.com/

https://www.google.com/search?q=cal...hXEGx4KHSq4AwEQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=exKUk271sGIwFM:

 

[Thoreau72]

Once again, when your actions kill hundreds of innocent people, it goes over the line of both common morality and justice.

I see where you're coming from now--you are judging after it has happened, this action.

I'm coming from trying to define it so that the law may be applied to this action, at least for future discussions with fellow citizens, regarding 'regime change' to use a modern term.

 

[MickeyW]

The FBI are law enforcement.

Yes they are...I've known that for over 60 years now.

 

[Manc Skipper]

When white people finally have enough and begin voicing their own concerns, the white guilt party, will always refer those angry whites as being racists and KKK members.

Never fails.

I stopped apologizing for being a white, anglo saxon, Irish Catholic, about 45 years ago.

Not American then. Were you in the Irish Navy? They have two destroyers, one is for spares for the seagoing one.

 

[Thoreau72]

Jefferson was a radical who believed in perpetual revolution.

No one should take his writings seriously.

Well, the planet and the cosmos is revolving, so he was right it seems!

 

[MickeyW]

IDK that I'd go as far as calling them Patriots...

Just free white Americans, who want to remain free and not subjects.

Anyone, who opposes King obama, is a patriot.

 

[MickeyW]

Malheur Bird Sanctuary crosses the same line even if no one blew up a building.
Sorry, you do NOT get to assemble your own private army and declare a federal property your new embassy.
Correct.
Sovereign citizens are domestic terrorists. Kill em all, let God sort em out.

Depends on the scope and if they have in fact terrorized anyone. Being prepared for any future illegal Federal Govt. action, is not terrorism.

Drone warfare is the very very worst form of warfare, except for all the other forms.

Works great on enemies.

That's just good common sense.
I have much the same, but I am not preparing for war against the government and I doubt you are either.

Depends.

 

[Kobie]

Tell me how you see anything different happening?

I dunno, the peaceful transition of power every eight years? Doesn't sound very "socialist dictatorship" to me.

It amazes me that the wingnuts never got over their fear of reds under their beds.

 

[coldjoint]

I dunno, the peaceful transition of power every eight years? Doesn't sound very "socialist dictatorship" to me.

It amazes me that the wingnuts never got over their fear of reds under their beds.

A lot can happen in eight years. Look at the crap Obama has pulled. And this under the bed stuff is crap. Just like you dismissing and marginalizing legitimate issues because someone said they were bigoted.

 

[Tigerace117]

Malheur Bird Sanctuary crosses the same line even if no one blew up a building.
Sorry, you do NOT get to assemble your own private army and declare a federal property your new embassy.
Sovereign citizens are domestic terrorists. Kill em all, let God sort em out.

I wouldn't go that far. If they don't commit a crime they should be free to do what they want within the boundaries of the law like any other American citizen.

 

[Tigerace117]

Drone warfare is the very very worst form of warfare, except for all the other forms.

Drone warfare is cheap, which is why all those congressmen from Texas seem to hate it so much.

 

[Tigerace117]

I see where you're coming from now--you are judging after it has happened, this action.

I'm coming from trying to define it so that the law may be applied to this action, at least for future discussions with fellow citizens, regarding 'regime change' to use a modern term.

It didn't work so well for Guy Fawkes and his Gunpowder Plot :mrgreen:

But yeah---Oklahoma City was counter productive. Not only were hundreds of innocent civilians killed, the bad PR meant that any valid points people who agreed with that particular political philosophy made were drowned out, so to speak.

 

[Kobie]

A lot can happen in eight years. Look at the crap Obama has pulled. And this under the bed stuff is crap. Just like you dismissing and marginalizing legitimate issues because someone said they were bigoted.

What?

But yeah, we're perpetually on the cusp of becoming North Korea. Keep telling yourself that.

 

[coldjoint]

What?

But yeah, we're perpetually on the cusp of becoming North Korea. Keep telling yourself that.

You just made my point for me.:lamo

 

[Manc Skipper]

"Patriots" has been substituted for "Barbarians" in the original phrase. How apt.

The word originated with the Greeks and later, the Romans used the
same term to describe anyone who was not Roman.

"To the peoples of ancient Greece, and later, Rome, a barbarian was
anyone who was not of their extraction or culture. Because most of
these "strangers" regularly practiced raids upon these civilizations,
the term "barbarian" gradually evolved into a perjorative term: a
person who was sub-human, uncivilized, and regularly practiced the
most vile and inhuman acts imaginable.

 

[Wiggen]

Preparing to kill cops should be illegal.

How about preparing to kill American soldiers? Should that be illegal? Because that's exactly what they are preparing to do.

 

[Wiggen]

When white people finally have enough and begin voicing their own concerns, the white guilt party, will always refer those angry whites as being racists and KKK members.

Never fails.

I stopped apologizing for being a white, anglo saxon, Irish Catholic, about 45 years ago.

Ahh, the true colors now emerging. Another white pride loon.

 

[Wiggen]

Not American then. Were you in the Irish Navy? They have two destroyers, one is for spares for the seagoing one.

No, he's WHITE AMERICAN. Don't ever forget it.

Scary that this man might actually have been in the same Navy I was in.

 

[Wiggen]

I dunno, the peaceful transition of power every eight years? Doesn't sound very "socialist dictatorship" to me.

It amazes me that the wingnuts never got over their fear of reds under their beds.

The good thing about threads like this is that they bring the racists and the white power assholes out of the woodwork.