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Why do so many right wing groups choose names that make them sound like the protagonists in a novel about the fascist takeover of America? Furthermore, if their agenda is about using "the power of love", why the ARs? If they are not a white supremacist organization, where's the minority members. Everyone I saw looked like somebody's uncle Roy.

Loving guns doesn't mean they are tools of love. Is it just me or is there a disconnect here?
 

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I guess the same reason why there is a fascist group calling itself “Antifa.”
 

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I guess the same reason why there is a fascist group calling itself “Antifa.”

Don't speak out of ignorance. They aren't fascist, fascists are conservative and Antifa doesn't fit the various qualifiers for fascism, like rabid nationalism, racism and the desire to consolidate power into a few hands.
 

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Don't speak out of ignorance. They aren't fascist, fascists are conservative and Antifa doesn't fit the various qualifiers for fascism, like rabid nationalism, racism and the desire to consolidate power into a few hands.

Targeting anyone who doesn’t agree with their politics for violence makes them fascists and fits the mold for their affinity for communism. The shoe fits. Lace it up.
 

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Targeting anyone who doesn’t agree with their politics for violence makes them fascists and fits the mold for their affinity for communism. The shoe fits. Lace it up.

Well, it's very clear you have no ****ing idea what fascism is. This is a disorder that too many conservatives have conveniently developed. The worst part is that you guys go on and on as if you know what you're talking about when all it would take is a quick Google search to educate yourselves. When you associated fascism with communism, that was the most embarrassing part. It's the polar opposite of communism. You're welcome.

Yet another wasted teaching moment, trying to inform the steadfastly ignorant.
 

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Well, it's very clear you have no ****ing idea what fascism is. This is a disorder that too many conservatives have conveniently developed. The worst part is that you guys go on and on as if you know what you're talking about when all it would take is a quick Google search to educate yourselves. When you associated fascism with communism, that was the most embarrassing part. It's the polar opposite of communism. You're welcome.

Yet another wasted teaching moment, trying to inform the steadfastly ignorant.

Progressives have such a child-like romanticized view of communism. My partner is a first generation American. His father is a refugee who fled here after narrowly escaping a mass grave during the communist revolution in Laos. His grandfather wasn’t so lucky. One of my best friends is also a first generation immigrant who’s parents fled here from the Khmer Rouge lest they become occupants of the killing fields of Cambodia. That is the universal reality of communism everywhere. Your willful ignorance of that truth is duly noted.
 
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Why do so many right wing groups choose names that make them sound like the protagonists in a novel about the fascist takeover of America? Furthermore, if their agenda is about using "the power of love", why the ARs? If they are not a white supremacist organization, where's the minority members. Everyone I saw looked like somebody's uncle Roy.

Loving guns doesn't mean they are tools of love. Is it just me or is there a disconnect here?

Tough love
 

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Progressives have such a child-like romanticized view of communism. My partner is a first generation American. His father is a refugee who fled here after narrowly escaping a mass grave during the communist revolution in Laos. His grandfather wasn’t so lucky. One of my best friends is also a first generation immigrant who’s parents fled here from the Khmer Rouge lest they become occupants of the killing fields of Cambodia. That is the universal reality of communism everywhere. Your willful ignorance of that truth is duly noted.

I agree with the first part, that many liberals have a romanticized vision of communism. It has never and could never be realized for many of the reasons that conservatives note.

Conversely, conservatives have a dogmatic sense of communism, calling any socialist idea, no matter how reasonable, "communism". Furthermore, conservatives often conflate the dictatorships that have marketed themselves as communist as being proof that communism is brutal and authoritarian. If its brutal, it's not actual communism.

Pol Pot, the favorite conservative example of a communist, wasn't one. Murdering the undesirables is more of a fascist activity than a communist one.

Any discussion of communism, though, is merely academic. Our reality, though, in this country, leans much harder towards fascism. It's very true. Fascism seeks to disempower the poor, to oppress the undesirables and to consolidate power into only a few hands. Donald Trump, like his father, is a fascist. He doesn't proudly exclaim that but we should call a spade a spade. I don't care to engage in the right wing version of political correctness where we must tiptoe around the American reality to avoid insulting fascists.

Yes, the protesters (some at least) are violent and threaten the public peace. Make no mistake, though, there is plenty of violence to go around on this planet, under various names. Fascism is a false label for socialist revolutionaries, even violent ones.
 
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