Outside Cleveland, thousands of Democrats are becoming Republicans

[jamesrage]

So...you didn't find anything at donaldjtrump.com ,

If you believe everything on a candidate's campaign site then you are a huge fool. Using you logic then Clinton supporters should ignore her flip flops as well.

so you dredge up stuff from 2000...16 freaking years ago.

Tell you what...don't bother me with this kind of BS. Okay?

I see, so its the "But that was yesterday he said that" excuse or some variation of it that you are going with to justify your support for Trump's liberal beliefs. BTW not all that is stuff he said 16 years ago.Like his stance on illegals, single payer healthcare, his pro-abortion sister making a great supreme court judge.Those things are with in the past year.

 

[jamesrage]

So then your position is that Trump is mad and he wants his entire fortune to go down the drain. Smart.

He probably figures that morons will ignore his liberal past and donations to some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO politicians.Just like Romney figured out that many people would ignore the fact he governed Massachusetts as a liberal.

You act like this isn't common knowledge and that people care? It's all old hat, no one cares what Trump did any more than the Dems care about HRC's laundry list of evil. If anything it will help him get Dem votes. They're very forgiving of crooks.

Most people are not Trump-bots. The liberal media wants Clinton as president so they will ignore her whole laundry list of misdeeds. Those democrats who rat****ed the republican primary will be voting for Clinton.

I say it thrice, for the boys in the back a little hard of hearing. NO ONE ELSE HAD A CHANCE.

Trump never had a chance. I am sure democrats would like to thank you for gift wrapping the presidency and handing it to Clinton with your primary vote for Trump.

 

[ChezC3]

He probably figures that morons will ignore his liberal past and donations to some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO politicians.Just like Romney figured out that many people would ignore the fact he governed Massachusetts as a liberal.






Most people are not Trump-bots. The liberal media wants Clinton as president so they will ignore her whole laundry list of misdeeds. Those democrats who rat****ed the republican primary will be voting for Clinton.



Trump never had a chance. I am sure democrats would like to thank you for gift wrapping the presidency and handing it to Clinton with your primary vote for Trump.

Oh, Ben...:slapme:

 

[Mycroft]

If you believe everything on a candidate's campaign site then you are a huge fool. Using you logic then Clinton supporters should ignore her flip flops as well.


I see, so its the "But that was yesterday he said that" excuse or some variation of it that you are going with to justify your support for Trump's liberal beliefs. BTW not all that is stuff he said 16 years ago.Like his stance on illegals, single payer healthcare, his pro-abortion sister making a great supreme court judge.Those things are with in the past year.

Actually, with Hillary...I don't pay attention to her flip-flops. Her lying...her crookedness...her continued practice of using our political system for her own monetary and power-seeking desires...is enough to prompt me to disregard her as a possible recipient of my support. But THAT seems to be what her supporters are willing to ignore...while they believe all the blather that comes out of her mouth.

Even if all of what Trump says is comparable political blather, he is still not as bad...character-wise...as Hillary.

Tell me...haven't you had enough of Democrats who are willing to lie to courts and lie to the people to save their own political hides. I know I have.

 

[jamesrage]

Actually, with Hillary...I don't pay attention to her flip-flops. Her lying...her crookedness...her continued practice of using our political system for her own monetary and power-seeking desires...is enough to prompt me to disregard her as a possible recipient of my support. But THAT seems to be what her supporters are willing to ignore...while they believe all the blather that comes out of her mouth.

Even if all of what Trump says is comparable political blather, he is still not as bad...character-wise...as Hillary.

Tell me...haven't you had enough of Democrats who are willing to lie to courts and lie to the people to save their own political hides. I know I have.

Sure I am sick of democrats doing that ****. But I am also sick of RINOs who are just as worse as liberal democrats. I refuse to believe the notion that somehow someone is better just because they have a R next to their name instead of a D.

 

[Mycroft]

Sure I am sick of democrats doing that ****. But I am also sick of RINOs who are just as worse as liberal democrats. I refuse to believe the notion that somehow someone is better just because they have a R next to their name instead of a D.

Hmmm...

RINO in one hand?...corrupt, lying Hillary in the other?

Who should I choose???

Look...even if, somehow, Trump has been running a massive game on the public...all we have is what he's said. He doesn't have any history that makes him worse than Hillary.

But even if he IS running a game, he's not as bad as Hillary.

He's the lesser of evils.

 

[jamesrage]

Hmmm...

RINO in one hand?...corrupt, lying Hillary in the other?

Who should I choose???

Look...even if, somehow, Trump has been running a massive game on the public...all we have is what he's said. He doesn't have any history that makes him worse than Hillary.

But even if he IS running a game, he's not as bad as Hillary.

He's the lesser of evils.

Trump helped get some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO republicans elected with his donations to them.Considering Trump's praise and support for those politcians he influenced his die hard followers to vote for those scum. So all those liberal laws you hate and all those RINOs IE the republican establishment who kept giving Obama what he wanted was partially Trump's fault. So to say that all we have on Trump is what he said is absolutely false.

 

[Mycroft]

Trump helped get some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO republicans elected with his donations to them.Considering Trump's praise and support for those politcians he influenced his die hard followers to vote for those scum. So all those liberal laws you hate and all those RINOs IE the republican establishment who kept giving Obama what he wanted was partially Trump's fault. So to say that all we have on Trump is what he said is absolutely false.

All that stuff, as I see it, is minor compared to the lying, corrupt and uncaring about the American people...that is Hillary.

That's why I have no problem voting for him by reason of him being the lesser of evils.

 

[jamesrage]

All that stuff, as I see it, is minor compared to the lying, corrupt and uncaring about the American people...that is Hillary.

That's why I have no problem voting for him by reason of him being the lesser of evils.

Trump helped Clinton get elected and out of all the politicians he donated money to Clinton is the one he gave the most to. He gave her over a hundred thousand dollars to her senate campaign and "charity". The fact that the democrat nominee was the guest of honor at the republican front runner's wedding and the fact the republican front runner donated lots of money to the democrat front runner and even praised and supported the job the democrat front runner should trouble anyone who considers themselves conservatives.

 

[Mycroft]

Trump helped Clinton get elected and out of all the politicians he donated money to Clinton is the one he gave the most to. He gave her over a hundred thousand dollars to her senate campaign and "charity". The fact that the democrat nominee was the guest of honor at the republican front runner's wedding and the fact the republican front runner donated lots of money to the democrat front runner and even praised and supported the job the democrat front runner should trouble anyone who considers themselves conservatives.

Since Trump is now running AGAINST Hillary, all that is pretty much irrelevant.

(Unless, of course, you wish to entertain some CT that Trump STILL supports Hillary for President. If that's what you think, then there is no hope for you and no point in talking to you.)

 

[shades]

Trump helped Clinton get elected and out of all the politicians he donated money to Clinton is the one he gave the most to. He gave her over a hundred thousand dollars to her senate campaign and "charity". The fact that the democrat nominee was the guest of honor at the republican front runner's wedding and the fact the republican front runner donated lots of money to the democrat front runner and even praised and supported the job the democrat front runner should trouble anyone who considers themselves conservatives.

And you havn't heard nothing yet. Do you have any idea what Trump knows about Clinton? Any idea? Hillary's worst nightmare is getting ready to unfold, and all she can do is try not to go to sleep. Trump is a savy bloke, he is saving the best for the head to head, live, on stage, unrehearsed response it will illicit from the crooked witch of the east on live TV.

 

[jamesrage]

Since Trump is now running AGAINST Hillary, all that is pretty much irrelevant.

How are those things irrelevant? That shows he likes Clinton and it show he supports the things she supports. He has a R next to his name and that somehow automatically makes him a good guy?


Would you vote for Dianne Feinstein if she switched her party affiliation to republican and and started half ass espousing conservative viewpoints? because that is what you are doing by voting for Trump.

(Unless, of course, you wish to entertain some CT that Trump STILL supports Hillary for President. If that's what you think, then there is no hope for you and no point in talking to you.)

John McCain and Mitt Romney didn't donate a hundred thousand dollars plus to Obama and have Obama show up to important family functions. As far as I know those two did not support or praise the job Obama did. Al Gore and John Kerry didn't give Bush a hundred thousand plus dollars,nor did they show up to any of Bush's important family functions. Nor did Kerry and Gore praise and support the job Bush did.And if I look back further in history I am sure the first Clinton, first Bush,Reagan and other presidential candidate's opponents did not either.

 

[jamesrage]

And you havn't heard nothing yet. Do you have any idea what Trump knows about Clinton? Any idea? Hillary's worst nightmare is getting ready to unfold, and all she can do is try not to go to sleep. Trump is a savy bloke, he is saving the best for the head to head, live, on stage, unrehearsed response it will illicit from the crooked witch of the east on live TV.

Considering the fact he is good friends with Clinton he probably knows a lot about her.But I don't think any of that equals Clinton's defeat in the general election.

 

[Mycroft]

How are those things irrelevant? That shows he likes Clinton and it show he supports the things she supports. He has a R next to his name and that somehow automatically makes him a good guy?


Would you vote for Dianne Feinstein if she switched her party affiliation to republican and and started half ass espousing conservative viewpoints? because that is what you are doing by voting for Trump.




John McCain and Mitt Romney didn't donate a hundred thousand dollars plus to Obama and have Obama show up to important family functions. As far as I know those two did not support or praise the job Obama did. Al Gore and John Kerry didn't give Bush a hundred thousand plus dollars,nor did they show up to any of Bush's important family functions. Nor did Kerry and Gore praise and support the job Bush did.And if I look back further in history I am sure the first Clinton, first Bush,Reagan and other presidential candidate's opponents did not either.

If Feinstein were running against Hillary, while being a tough decision because Feinstein has already shown herself to be a lying politician, I think she would get my vote instead of Hillary. It's hard for ANYBODY to not be the lesser of two evils when compared to Hillary.

So yeah...I'd say all that stuff you are spouting about Trump is irrelevant. (context matters, you know)

 

[jamesrage]

If Feinstein were running against Hillary, while being a tough decision because Feinstein has already shown herself to be a lying politician, I think she would get my vote instead of Hillary. It's hard for ANYBODY to not be the lesser of two evils when compared to Hillary.

So basically a politician is good as long as he or she has a R next to their name regardless of what they have done?

So yeah...I'd say all that stuff you are spouting about Trump is irrelevant. (context matters, you know)

How is it irrelevant? He is running for president. Someone with his blatant support for some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO republicans should have raised some red flags with republican voters. Someone who donated over a hundred thousand dollars to the democrat nominee should have raised a whole truck load of red flags with republican voters. Someone who had the democrat nominee show up to his wedding as a guest to his wedding should have raised a couple trainloads of red flags with republican voters. Someone who has praised and supported the job the democrat nominee has done should have raised a whole tankership or red flags with republican voters. Common sense should tell republicans that they are being ****en conned in regard to Donald Trump.

 

[Mycroft]

So basically a politician is good as long as he or she has a R next to their name regardless of what they have done?

No. It would depend on the politician. For example, if Cruz has won the Republican nomination, I would not be voting this year.

How is it irrelevant? He is running for president. Someone with his blatant support for some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO republicans should have raised some red flags with republican voters. Someone who donated over a hundred thousand dollars to the democrat nominee should have raised a whole truck load of red flags with republican voters. Someone who had the democrat nominee show up to his wedding as a guest to his wedding should have raised a couple trainloads of red flags with republican voters. Someone who has praised and supported the job the democrat nominee has done should have raised a whole tankership or red flags with republican voters. Common sense should tell republicans that they are being ****en conned in regard to Donald Trump.

It is irrelevant to me. I have determined, to my own satisfaction, that Trump...regardless of his actions in the past and as the current Republican nominee...is an acceptable candidate for me to vote for, as well as being the lesser of evils when compared to Clinton.

Frankly, I'm not impressed nor am I influenced by your spinning and hyperbolic characterization of the man or your complaints about him.

 

[jamesrage]

No. It would depend on the politician. For example, if Cruz has won the Republican nomination, I would not be voting this year.

So you would vote for Nancy Pelosi if she ran as a republican and started espousing conservative beliefs even though this woman voted for all kinds of liberal things you oppose. But you would not vote for Cruz who has been mostly consistent in his conservative beliefs and has actually filibustered to stop Obama-care?

It is irrelevant to me. I have determined, to my own satisfaction, that Trump...regardless of his actions in the past and as the current Republican nominee...is an acceptable candidate for me to vote for,

Most people those things would raise red flag. If Rush Limbaugh started espousing liberal views,donated to conservative republicans and blue dog democrats and ran for president as a democrat I don't think any democrat would be gullible enough to vote for Limbaugh.

as well as being the lesser of evils when compared to Clinton.

You are deluding yourself if you think Trump is the lesser of two evils. If he truly is the lesser the of two evils it isn't by much.

Frankly, I'm not impressed nor am I influenced by your spinning and hyperbolic characterization of the man or your complaints about him.

How is what I said about Trump exaggerated? There is audio and video of him praising and supporting Clinton. You can look on the Clinton foundation website and see his name among the list of donors.You can look at various websites to see the list of politicians he has donated money to,But unlike those other politicians Clinton is the one he donated the most to. There is audio,video and his books of him expressing his liberal views.

 

[Mycroft]

So you would vote for Nancy Pelosi if she ran as a republican and started espousing conservative beliefs even though this woman voted for all kinds of liberal things you oppose. But you would not vote for Cruz who has been mostly consistent in his conservative beliefs and has actually filibustered to stop Obama-care?

Nah...Pelosi is just as bad as Clinton and Cruz.

Dude...give it a rest, eh? You can keep throwing hypothetical names out there and I can keep making my hypothetical decisions that, by the way, show that I'm true to my convictions.

I've already told you that I do not agree with your opinion of the man. You are wasting your time trying to convince me. (also, I would hate to see you tip over the edge and say something I might be inclined to report you for)

Trump is the lesser of evils...that's why I will vote for him.

 

[jamesrage]

Nah...Pelosi is just as bad as Clinton and Cruz.

Dude...give it a rest, eh? You can keep throwing hypothetical names out there and I can keep making my hypothetical decisions that, by the way, show that I'm true to my convictions.

I've already told you that I do not agree with your opinion of the man. You are wasting your time trying to convince me. (also, I would hate to see you tip over the edge and say something I might be inclined to report you for)

Trump is the lesser of evils...that's why I will vote for him.

'Should hell freeze over, Bernie sanders renounces socialism and becomes a die hard capitalist and unicorns come out of Obama's ass,Because that that is the only way Trump will win the general you will have no one to blame but yourselves when Trump stabs you and other Trump supporters in the back.

 

[gdgyva]

'Should hell freeze over, Bernie sanders renounces socialism and becomes a die hard capitalist and unicorns come out of Obama's ass,Because that that is the only way Trump will win the general you will have no one to blame but yourselves when Trump stabs you and other Trump supporters in the back.

you act as if we have a lot of choices

we dont

we either vote for Trump, or we vote for Johnson or some other third party candidate

But what is the end game? what is the most important thing to be decided?

it isnt the presidency imo....but what that position decides

the next 2-3 submissions for the supreme court

we know who and what Hillary will nominate....she has said so

The Donald....not so much

that is what this election comes down to for me....

where the bench goes....because they are no longer just ruling on cases....

THEY ARE MAKING LAW

not what the founders intended, but where we have come to

 

[jamesrage]

you act as if we have a lot of choices

we dont


we either vote for Trump, or we vote for Johnson or some other third party candidate

At one point republicans had around 16 other choices besides Trump. they had RINO all the way to conservative in choices all of whom were more conservative than Trump and more consistent than Trump. But instead Trump-tards with the help democrats rat ****ing or party raiding the primary went with the guy who gave the democrat front runner at least a hundred thousand dollars to her senate campaign and "charity". Despite claiming to be pissed off at the establishment they went with a guy who donated regularly to the establishment politicians. I do not democrats would be that ****en retard. If Rush Limbaugh decided to run as a democrat, started espousing liberal viewpoints and had a history of donating to conservative republicans and blue dog democrats. I do not think democrats would be retarded enough to vote for Rush. But yet a known liberal says some pillow talk and republicans go gaga over him. I shouldn't be surprise seeing how republicans knowingly voted for a Uber RINO in 2012.That Uber RINO enacted gun control laws Obama has wet dreams about passing,enacted the predecessor to Obama-care and all sorts of other liberal things.

But what is the end game? what is the most important thing to be decided?

it isnt the presidency imo....but what that position decides

the next 2-3 submissions for the supreme court

we know who and what Hillary will nominate....she has said so

The Donald....not so much

that is what this election comes down to for me....

where the bench goes....because they are no longer just ruling on cases....

THEY ARE MAKING LAW

not what the founders intended, but where we have come to

Considering Trump's past I do not trust him to appoint conservatives to the supreme court. He is a guy who has supported liberal issues. He is a guy who has donated to some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO republicans and has praised and supported the job those people have done. It amounts to trusting a known child molester to watch your kids because that child molester says he has changed. Or letting a known arsonist be chief of the fire department because he says he has changed. I would like to know what Trump supporters are smokking. Because that must be some good weed to make you lose any judgement what so ever like that..

 

[gdgyva]

At one point republicans had around 16 other choices besides Trump. they had RINO all the way to conservative in choices all of whom were more conservative than Trump and more consistent than Trump. But instead Trump-tards with the help democrats rat ****ing or party raiding the primary went with the guy who gave the democrat front runner at least a hundred thousand dollars to her senate campaign and "charity". Despite claiming to be pissed off at the establishment they went with a guy who donated regularly to the establishment politicians. I do not democrats would be that ****en retard. If Rush Limbaugh decided to run as a democrat, started espousing liberal viewpoints and had a history of donating to conservative republicans and blue dog democrats. I do not think democrats would be retarded enough to vote for Rush. But yet a known liberal says some pillow talk and republicans go gaga over him. I shouldn't be surprise seeing how republicans knowingly voted for a Uber RINO in 2012.That Uber RINO enacted gun control laws Obama has wet dreams about passing,enacted the predecessor to Obama-care and all sorts of other liberal things.





Considering Trump's past I do not trust him to appoint conservatives to the supreme court. He is a guy who has supported liberal issues. He is a guy who has donated to some of the most despicable liberal democrats and RINO republicans and has praised and supported the job those people have done. It amounts to trusting a known child molester to watch your kids because that child molester says he has changed. Or letting a known arsonist be chief of the fire department because he says he has changed. I would like to know what Trump supporters are smokking. Because that must be some good weed to make you lose any judgement what so ever like that..

stop....you keep saying the same **** over and over

we all know he did what you say he did....when did he do it? last year? 2 years ago? 4 years ago? 10 years ago?

and at this point....we are out of options....whether you like it or not....he is the republican nominee

cruz, bush, rubio, christie, and all the others were defeated and have gone home

and there is no bringing them back....

so you either vote for the nominee we have, and hope that he does what he is supposed to do

or you vote for some third party candidate who has no shot, so you virtually throw away your vote

or you dont vote at all.....those are the ****ty choices we are left with

so get off the high horse....and make up your mind as to what you think is right

none of them are great choices....

but one of them leads to possibly keeping Hillary out of office

for some of us, that will have to do for now

that is the BEST we can hope for

 

[Moderate Right]

Trump is such a lousy candidate that the only way Clinton will lose is if unicorns come out of Obama's ass, Hell freezes over and Sanders renounces socialism and becomes a die hard capitalist.

Try telling that to the 16 Republican candidates, some with multimillion dollar purses, who got their asses whipped.

 

[Mycroft]

'Should hell freeze over, Bernie sanders renounces socialism and becomes a die hard capitalist and unicorns come out of Obama's ass,Because that that is the only way Trump will win the general you will have no one to blame but yourselves when Trump stabs you and other Trump supporters in the back.

It's a good thing I'm not affected by hyperbole and spin. You'd have me cowering in the corner.

LOL!!

 

[ARealConservative]

NO. NO HE IS NOT.

I don't trust Hillary as far as I can throw her, and I've long championed the breakup of the duopoly the parties have. I've long been open to voting for an antiestablishment outsider, even if that outsider was running on the GOP ticket.

However, not Donald Trump. As bad and dishonest and ****ty as Hillary is, Donald Trump is exponentially worse. He's been a craven huckster for more than 30 years in the public eye, and you are all-in on him. That's utterly pathetic.

Show some ****ing balls for once in your life and stop bending over for your sainted GOP just because you think it's a chance to stick it to liberals.

if such a thing as lesser evil does exist, it is the guy that did not win office through corruption.

Hillary and her family are as corrupt and evil as they come.

The DNC and all their rats are not going to introduce a lesser of evils. sorry partisan hack.