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[CurrentAffairs]

Even Joe Biden says a surge is necessaary. It's time to ramp up and win this battle on terror. Then, just like the liberals want, we can bring the troops home. To run away in four months, like the speaker is suggesting, is to embrace defeat.

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[TheNextEra]

Yes let's ramp up this war on terror, we don't have enough dead soldiers yet. :roll:

Sorry, but this is an IRAQI problem now, let them handle it. After all the supporters of the Bush administration say the Iraqis are getting enough people signed up for the military and police and there isn't a problem. So if there isn't a problem than the Iraqis are quite able to handle this themselves.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Yes let's ramp up this war on terror, we don't have enough dead soldiers yet.

A very passive and simplistic thing to say, of course. I'd suggest studying your history. Down through the ages, brave men and women have died on the battlefield fighting for what is right. Sometimes the alternative to fighting is an even worse situation.

 

[TheNextEra]

A very passive and simplistic thing to say, of course. I'd suggest studying your history. Down through the ages, brave men and women have died on the battlefield fighting for what is right. Sometimes the alternative to fighting is an even worse situation.

And I'd suggest you read your history sometime and see that some countries attitude of "Well we can't let the people that have died, die for nothing" and continue on fighting has cost more deaths with little or worse results as well.

Sometimes the alternative to fighting SAVES LIVES and is in fact the correct choice. Perhaps the U.S. leaving would force the Iraqis into a do or die situation where they stand on their own and defeat the insurgency.

 

[Obama08]

Yes let's ramp up this war on terror, we don't have enough dead soldiers yet.

I was opposed to the Iraq war, and still am, but what else would you suggest we do?
Pull out and leave the country in chaos? Regardless of the mistakes made in the past, we're there now, and we need to finish off some type of completion. If Bush can set some serious and clear reasons for wanting to increase the number of troops, I would say go for it.

In the history of most wars, the end is where you have to complete a final phase involving most of the strength you have.

 

[TheNextEra]

Regardless of the mistakes made in the past, we're there now, and we need to finish off some type of completion.

The same thought was done in Vietnam, we lost tens of thousands more after that. Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.

I've said time again, if I am wrong, it's an easy pill to swallow and I'll admit I am wrong.

However, if you are wrong and thousands more die and the job is not finished, how easy is that pill for you to swallow.

 

[Obama08]

The same thought was done in Vietnam, we lost tens of thousands more after that. Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.

I've said time again, if I am wrong, it's an easy pill to swallow and I'll admit I am wrong.

However, if you are wrong and thousands more die and the job is not finished, how easy is that pill for you to swallow.

You have to look at the situation your dealing with...
Iraq is Vietnam, on a much lower scale.

 

[TheNextEra]

Iraq is Vietnam, on a much lower scale.

And what was the end result of Vietnam?

 

[Obama08]

And what was the end result of Vietnam?

We know what the end result was, but who's to say that we might not be able to win the game because its easier?

We played the game on Level 10 during the 60's...
And now we're playing it around level 7.

 

[26 X World Champs]

Even Joe Biden says a surge is necessaary. It's time to ramp up and win this battle on terror. Then, just like the liberals want, we can bring the troops home. To run away in four months, like the speaker is suggesting, is to embrace defeat.

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Why are you starting a thread based on lies? I just watched Sen. Biden on Meet The Press and he clearly and without any ambiguity stated that he is AGAINST THE SURGE...no if ands or buts!

What you posted is pure untruths.

Here's the transcript from today's Meet The Press:

MR. RUSSERT: Senator Biden, let me start with you. If President Bush calls for more American troops to Iraq, the so-called surge, Joe Biden will say...

SEN. BIDEN: No. But there’s not much I can do about it. Not much anybody can do about it. He’s commander in chief. If he surges another 20, 30, or whatever number he’s going to, into Baghdad, it’ll be a tragic mistake, in my view, but, as a practical matter, there’s no way to say, “Mr. President, stop.”

Source: MTP Transcript for Jan. 7, 2007 - Meet the Press, online at MSNBC - MSNBC.com

So I'm dying to know how you reached the conclusion that:

Even Joe Biden says a surge is necessaary.

Talk about starting a thread that has no basis in truth! You the man!