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Orly Taitz Loses CA Secretary Of State Bid But Gets 368,000 Votes

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Excerpted from “Orly Taitz Loses CA Secretary Of State Bid But Gets 368,000 Votes” Justin Elliott, TPMMuckraker, June 9, 2010, 10:00AM
[SIZE="+2"]T[/SIZE]he only question now is: how long till Taitz claims the election was stolen and initiates years of litigation?
Well, the California GOP must be breathing a sigh of relief today that Birther Queen Orly Taitz lost yesterday, so that their legitimate, full fare paying candidates, Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina, won't have her hung around their necks for the next five months.

But you have to wonder, almost 400,000 Republican primary voters, more than 1 of every 4, voted for this nutjob. Unbelievable.
 

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I wonder if those 400,000 votes represent all the birthers in CA?
Probably were because according to Harris Poll 45% of Republicans believe the conspiracy that the President wasn't born in the United States. I just think that's crazy and it's a good thing not just for California but the entire country, That this woman lost that election. Just still a sad fact that 368,000 people voted for her. What a disgrace.
 
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Probably were because according to Harris Poll 45% of Republicans believe the conspiracy that the President wasn't born in the United States. I just think that's crazy and it's a good thing not just for California but the entire country, That this woman lost that election. Just still a sad fact that 368,000 people voted for her.
As I understand it, there where some significant issues with that poll. I do believe that the vast majority of republicans realize that birthers are totally insane.
 

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As I understand it, there where some significant issues with that poll. I do believe that the vast majority of republicans realize that birthers are totally insane.
Could be because it's not known for being the most credible polling sourcing or anything, But it's also a problem when nearly 25% of the Republicans in that state voted for her.
 

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Could be because it's not known for being the most credible polling sourcing or anything, But it's also a problem when nearly 25% of the Republicans in that state voted for her.
It's California. A guy by the name of Jello Biafra got several thousand votes for mayor of San Francisco once. They are just odd people there.
 

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Oh, look it's a moderator making a huge, unsubstantiated generalization about 30 million Californians. Thanks for that!

But, what's important is that a quarter of Republican primary voters are ready to have a crazy woman as their Secretary of State nominee. Just a quarter. What of the other voters; the winning candidate, former NFL player Damon Dunn, who voted for the first time in 2008. There is a positive side to the story: Republican voters preferred the wealthy, talented black guy over the crazy, litigious white woman.

Excerpted from “Orly Taitz Was Robbed!” POSTED BY: Dennis DiClaudio, Comedy Central, June 9 at 12:39PM
[SIZE="+2"]H[/SIZE]ow could this travesty have happened?! How could the rational Republican people of California not have chosen you [Orly Taitz] to be their nominee for Secretary of State? What? Did they not want to win in November? Did they not want a Secretary of State who would tackle the important issues facing the state, like bringing President Obama to justice for having been secretly born in an African village? What is wrong with this country?!

I'll tell you what it probably was. The Kenyan Secret Police. They're all over this country. You don't realize it, because they're quite devious. They have very long arms, figuratively speaking. And possibly literally speaking too. Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama, aka Professor Slaughter, aka Shub-Niggurath, the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young) controls them with a hidden transmitter from the Oval Office. You think he was gonna let someone like Orly Taitz make it to higher office? Ha! That's a laugh!

I'll tell you something else. Everybody in California who did not vote for Orly Taitz is gonna have one hell of a law suit on their hands.
 

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Oh, look it's a moderator making a huge, unsubstantiated generalization about 30 million Californians. Thanks for that!

But, what's important is that a quarter of Republican primary voters are ready to have a crazy woman as their Secretary of State nominee. Just a quarter. What of the other voters; the winning candidate, former NFL player Damon Dunn, who voted for the first time in 2008. There is a positive side to the story: Republican voters preferred the wealthy, talented black guy over the crazy, litigious white woman.
And more than half of SC Democratic primary voters are ready to have an unemployed pervert as their Senate nominee.

Do you think that means that more than half of SC Democrats are actually pro-unemployed pervert? Or do you think it means that sometimes people just vote randomly when they don't care about the race or don't know much about who's running?
 

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It's California. A guy by the name of Jello Biafra got several thousand votes for mayor of San Francisco once. They are just odd people there.
Dont knock Jello Biafra


He made some pretty good music in his time.
 

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And more than half of SC Democratic primary voters are ready to have an unemployed pervert as their Senate nominee.

Do you think that means that more than half of SC Democrats are actually pro-unemployed pervert? Or do you think it means that sometimes people just vote randomly when they don't care about the race or don't know much about who's running?
Was the SC primary an open one? Did they have a large surge in the number of voters compared to previous elections?
 

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Dont knock Jello Biafra


He made some pretty good music in his time.
Trust me, I am not knocking him. I heard him tell the story of his run live, and enjoyed the hell out of it. I would not vote for him for office, but I think highly of the man.
 

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And more than half of SC Democratic primary voters are ready to have an unemployed pervert as their Senate nominee.

Do you think that means that more than half of SC Democrats are actually pro-unemployed pervert? Or do you think it means that sometimes people just vote randomly when they don't care about the race or don't know much about who's running?
Open primary … one can't help but suspect that a fair number of conservatives voted "pro-unemployed pervert" in the South Carolina Democratic primary last Tuesday. There's a nasty streak in South Carolina conservative politics.

FYI, Californians just voted in favor of Proposition 14, open primaries.
 

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Was the SC primary an open one? Did they have a large surge in the number of voters compared to previous elections?
Open primary … one can't help but suspect that a fair number of conservatives voted "pro-unemployed pervert" in the South Carolina Democratic primary last Tuesday. There's a nasty streak in South Carolina conservative politics.
So the theory is that despite that fact that the most heavily involved political observers had no idea of who Alvin Greene was and didn't care one bit about this election, tens of thousands of average Joe Republicans surreptitiously conspired to vote for this particular Democrat in this particular off-season unimportant primary?

Do either of you have a shred of evidence for this?
 

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So the theory is that despite that fact that the most heavily involved political observers had no idea of who Alvin Greene was and didn't care one bit about this election, tens of thousands of average Joe Republicans surreptitiously conspired to vote for this particular Democrat in this particular off-season unimportant primary?

Do either of you have a shred of evidence for this?
It was probably that no one really knew much about either candidate in the SC race, so it was essentially a dart throw
 

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More evidence against the sekret right-wing conspiracy theory:

The state has open primaries, which means Republican voters could have chosen to vote in the Democratic primary and gone for Greene. But then crossover voters couldn't have voted in a more-important four-way race for governor on the GOP ballot.

More than twice as many voters cast ballots in the GOP primary than in the Democratic contest, and vote totals show 19,000 voters selected a Democratic candidate for governor but skipped the U.S. Senate part of the ballot.
The Associated Press: Conspiracy theories no surprise in SC Senate race
 

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More evidence against the sekret right-wing conspiracy theory:



The Associated Press: Conspiracy theories no surprise in SC Senate race
And some evidence FOR the conspiracy theory:
Experts review S.C. Senate ballots - David Catanese - POLITICO.com
In Lancaster County, Rawl won absentee ballots over Greene by a staggering 84 percent to 16 percent margin; but Greene easily led among Election Day voters by 17 percentage points.

In Spartanburg County, Ludwig said there are 25 precincts in which Greene received more votes than were actually cast and 50 other precincts where votes appeared to be missing from the final count.
If true, that's an astoundingly massive difference between absentee and in-person voting tendencies.
 

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And some evidence FOR the conspiracy theory:
Which conspiracy theory? The theory that the guy was a republican plant, or the theory that republicans somehow committed widespread voter fraud? Or both?

In Lancaster County, Rawl won absentee ballots over Greene by a staggering 84 percent to 16 percent margin; but Greene easily led among Election Day voters by 17 percentage points.
When you're dealing with small numbers like this (there were less than 2000 voters in that county), things like this are not out of the ordinary. That breakdown is particularly unsurprising given the situation.

Rawl was the only one who actually campaigned, so it stands to reason that absentee voters (people who care more about politics and make their decisions ahead of time, with an opportunity to research the people on the ballot in front of them) would pick Rawl over Greene, while voters on the spot would be much less likely to know anything about either candidate and would have no opportunity to do any research.

In Spartanburg County, Ludwig said there are 25 precincts in which Greene received more votes than were actually cast and 50 other precincts where votes appeared to be missing from the final count.
If true (it's coming from the losing candidate's campaign manager, and the SC Election Commissioner says that the voting was proper), then that means there were probably some screwups on the local level. Allegations of errors like this pop up in pretty much every single controversial election. It's a massive leap to go from "there were some minor local screwups, probably on the scale of a few dozen votes" to "there was a huge republican conspiracy to commit massive voter fraud in order to help their handpicked secret plant win a completely unimportant primary race."
 

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And more than half of SC Democratic primary voters are ready to have an unemployed pervert as their Senate nominee.

Do you think that means that more than half of SC Democrats are actually pro-unemployed pervert? Or do you think it means that sometimes people just vote randomly when they don't care about the race or don't know much about who's running?
Actually, that Democrat is a Republican plant, according to some people, who have asked the South Carolina AG to investigate not only his running, but possible tampering with electronic voting machines, that showed him winning 58% of the vote, when polls the day before showed him at 18%. Something really, really, weird is going on there.
 

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And more than half of SC Democratic primary voters are ready to have an unemployed pervert as their Senate nominee.

Do you think that means that more than half of SC Democrats are actually pro-unemployed pervert? Or do you think it means that sometimes people just vote randomly when they don't care about the race or don't know much about who's running?
Actually, that Democrat is a Republican plant, according to some people, who have asked the South Carolina AG to investigate not only his running, but possible tampering with electronic voting machines, that showed him winning 59% of the vote, when polls the day before showed him at 18%. Something really, really, weird is going on there.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have another unlikely ally, Sen. Lindsey Graham, in their request for an investigation. Graham (R-SC) told Politico today that he has "basic questions" about Greene's candidacy.

"There is some suspicion about his filing fee - I'd like to know how that came about," Graham told Politico. When asked if he would support an investigation, Graham said, "If people believe the system is compromised - I have a lot of respect for Congressman Clyburn - if he believes it was compromised, yes, I'd call for an investigation."
 
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