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(Disclosure, I am a native of Oregon).
Two kinds of demographic transformation has been remaking America for the last 50 years. The first is foreign immigration, the second is internal migration from blue states to red states. Oregon is one of the best examples; in the mid to late 1980s Californians, disgusted with the decline in their quality of life began bringing their left of center politics with them. The promise of inexpensive housing and a funky bohemian working class atmosphere in Portland and elsewhere lured the baby boomers looking for a new state to ruin.
Initially most Oregonians were native born and working class (Democratic and Republican) and was fairly homogeneous, the decedents of early settlers from the NE of America. Not unlike places like New Hampshire, they shared a outdoorsmen tradition of hunting and fishing, where Oregon blueberries and jam making was more typical topic of conversation than any political subject.
Now the majority are from out-of-state (at least those in the urban areas), Californians having fled liberal immigration policies that transformed their state into a branch of Latin America and the UN.
Clueless as to how they ruined California, they have created unaffordable gentrified enclaves of upper class liberaldom, native Californians replacing native Oregonians. With housing prices skyrocketing to be nearly equal to that California, the working class sensibilities of the cities, especially Portland, have been replaced with white liberal Yuppie and Dink transplants, those under 30 coming to find utopia, all of them indifferent to prior Oregon values. And now, the virtue mongering transplants have turned their attention to gun control, making proposals that were unthinkable 25 years ago.
Among the proposed new bills:
Senate Bill 501, requires a permit to purchase or receive a firearm, with each permit requiring training but only being valid for 90 days. It prohibit the possession of ammunition magazines with a capacity greater than five bullets, require background checks for purchasing ammunition, restrict ammunition purchases to no more than 20 rounds within a 30 day period.
House Bill 2551, would define many commonly owned semi-automatic firearms as “assault rifles,” prohibit young adults under the age of 21 from receiving such defined “assault rifles,” require firearm transfers be delayed for up to 30 days for the Oregon State Police to conduct background checks, and impose stiff criminal penalties for those who allow a minor to access a firearm.
Senate Bill 275 and House Bill 2505, sponsored by Representative Barbara Smith Warner (D-45), would include language from the failed Initiative Petition 44 of 2018. It would restrict the right to self-defense by imposing a one-size-fits-all requirement for the storage of firearms.
Senate Bill 87, would prohibit young adults under the age of 21 from purchasing firearms and allow firearm dealers to discriminate against and refuse to sell firearms, ammunition, or firearm components to adults of any age.
Twenty-five years ago Oregonians, if they had the power to stop migration, would have done so and been the happier for it. Newcomers have taken their culture and values and imposed their own. Another lesson on the evils of immigration for the native born in America or in a state, in both a domestic and international context.
Two kinds of demographic transformation has been remaking America for the last 50 years. The first is foreign immigration, the second is internal migration from blue states to red states. Oregon is one of the best examples; in the mid to late 1980s Californians, disgusted with the decline in their quality of life began bringing their left of center politics with them. The promise of inexpensive housing and a funky bohemian working class atmosphere in Portland and elsewhere lured the baby boomers looking for a new state to ruin.
Initially most Oregonians were native born and working class (Democratic and Republican) and was fairly homogeneous, the decedents of early settlers from the NE of America. Not unlike places like New Hampshire, they shared a outdoorsmen tradition of hunting and fishing, where Oregon blueberries and jam making was more typical topic of conversation than any political subject.
Now the majority are from out-of-state (at least those in the urban areas), Californians having fled liberal immigration policies that transformed their state into a branch of Latin America and the UN.
Clueless as to how they ruined California, they have created unaffordable gentrified enclaves of upper class liberaldom, native Californians replacing native Oregonians. With housing prices skyrocketing to be nearly equal to that California, the working class sensibilities of the cities, especially Portland, have been replaced with white liberal Yuppie and Dink transplants, those under 30 coming to find utopia, all of them indifferent to prior Oregon values. And now, the virtue mongering transplants have turned their attention to gun control, making proposals that were unthinkable 25 years ago.
Among the proposed new bills:
Senate Bill 501, requires a permit to purchase or receive a firearm, with each permit requiring training but only being valid for 90 days. It prohibit the possession of ammunition magazines with a capacity greater than five bullets, require background checks for purchasing ammunition, restrict ammunition purchases to no more than 20 rounds within a 30 day period.
House Bill 2551, would define many commonly owned semi-automatic firearms as “assault rifles,” prohibit young adults under the age of 21 from receiving such defined “assault rifles,” require firearm transfers be delayed for up to 30 days for the Oregon State Police to conduct background checks, and impose stiff criminal penalties for those who allow a minor to access a firearm.
Senate Bill 275 and House Bill 2505, sponsored by Representative Barbara Smith Warner (D-45), would include language from the failed Initiative Petition 44 of 2018. It would restrict the right to self-defense by imposing a one-size-fits-all requirement for the storage of firearms.
Senate Bill 87, would prohibit young adults under the age of 21 from purchasing firearms and allow firearm dealers to discriminate against and refuse to sell firearms, ammunition, or firearm components to adults of any age.
Twenty-five years ago Oregonians, if they had the power to stop migration, would have done so and been the happier for it. Newcomers have taken their culture and values and imposed their own. Another lesson on the evils of immigration for the native born in America or in a state, in both a domestic and international context.
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