Opposition to CRT explained

[Helix]

CRT is a tool that faux uses to get their rage potato viewership stirred up. If not for faux, CRT would still mean the computer monitor you had in 1995.

 

[ultmd]

Many people who oppose CRT do so because it goes way past simply teaching history.

It accuses one ethnicity (the current one that is fast shrinking) of being wholly responsible for the shortcomings of another ethnicity.

This is a lie. And, as with most lies, it's an illustration of your profound ignorance.

CRT is a legal theory that does no such thing.

So, clearly, you're a white conservative who gets all of his "news" from conservative social media and/or FauxNews sources.

That is obviously wrong.

Nice (i. e. "Pathetic") STRAWMAN, @TheParser .

Your created a fact-free, completely fictional "fact".....attributed that "fact" to your target (in this case, the topic of CRT)....and then you attempt to discredit the target by claiming (without any basis in merit) the moral high-ground.

Here's the TRUTH: what's "obviously wrong"....is your ignorance and dishonest in this thread.

Especially in 2022.

White cultural grievance is as prevalent in 2022 was throughout most of the 20th century.

What you are doing...and expressing....is neither clever, nor surprising.

Hope the Republicans win the House and Senate in a few months.

I'm sure you do.

But, then again, everyone already understood this about you, anyway.

Maybe they can do something to stop this pernicious and unAmerican theory from alienating our young people.

Ignorance and white-grievance (from people like you) know no bounds, and (collectively) have no sense of decency.

CRT is a LEGAL theory, taught ONLY in law schools. It is not being taught in ANY public school.....ANYWHERE in this country.

 

[ultmd]

Ive posted it before...I wont bother again..

I've posted it many times, and I'll say it again....

White grievance is an infestation that rots the brains of those it afflicts.

.but the proponents of CRT arent teaching CRT to teach history. From their own mouths, they are attempting to indoctrinate...inflame...convert...and that cant be done without the promotion of hatred and responsibility of ownership. proponents want minority students angry and white students humbled and bowed.

That's not history. That's advocacy.

What you've just posted, above....is rank stupidity.

I won't even pretend that it's anything more than that.

You can't back up a word of the above, and we both know it. And we also know that.....you don't care. You people believe anything/everything that re-affirms your existing biases. Facts, stats, objective data/research, etc.....mean nothing to do you all (unless they can be used to re-affirm your existing biases). That's just how you are.

But the truth remains the truth. In this case, ANYONE who argues (or suggests) that CRT is being taught to children in schools.....pr that CRT teaches blacks they are "victims" and teaches whites "to feel shame", etc.....or that CRT "promotes hatred".....or that CRT is a "Marxist" philosophy.....etc. etc......is either a fool, or a liar.

 

[Michael Cole]

Many people who oppose CRT do so because it goes way past simply teaching history.

It accuses one ethnicity (the current one that is fast shrinking) of being wholly responsible for the shortcomings of another ethnicity.

That is obviously wrong.

Especially in 2022.

Hope the Republicans win the House and Senate in a few months.

Maybe they can do something to stop this pernicious and unAmerican theory from alienating our young people.

CRT isn't history

See? That's what disinformation will do to you.

 

[Michael Cole]

Crt is not being taught about in k12

Nor 13-16

 

[Michael Cole]

That is what history class is about. Most the histories of people have never participated in such treatment before they were born.

CRT isn't history.

 

[Bullseye]

Well, a history that makes white people feel good, but yeah, that's the gist of it. An exception is definitely carved out for failed political ideologies though. White people are responsible for communism, but conservatives will teach the bejeezus out of that one.

So, if faux-history makes BIPOC feel good it should be promulgated in lieu of real history?

 

[Michael Cole]

So, if faux-history makes BIPOC feel good it should be promulgated in lieu of real history?

CRT isn't history.

Does anyone know what they're talking about?

 

[rickc]

Those trumpers against it have no clue what they are teaching in school. Even if they read it they couldn't understand it.

Once again republican politicians are using this issue to fire up their racist redneck base.

Republican propaganda is very effective!

 

[Roadvirus]

CRT isn't history.

Extreme Leftists seem to think so.

 

[ultmd]

Okay, I'm gonna need a citation for this one. This claim is repeated constantly, but I've never heard anybody blaming anybody for something that other people did in the past.

Exactly correct.

And you and I both know what is to follow from @Roadvirus don't we? NOTHING.

That's because there is ZERO evidence of ANYTHING in his statement.

• CRT doesn't treat ANY "kids" (white, black, brown or other) anything, because CRT has not been taught to ANY kids, in ANY public schools, ANYWHERE. Ever.
• CRT is a LEGAL THEORY, taught ONLY in a few, select law schools.
• CRT doesn't even SUGGEST (much less "teach") that white people should feel guilty for what their ancestors may (or may not) have done.

But the fakenews crowd (i.e. @Roadvirus, etc) doesn't care about any of that "truth" and "fact" stuff. They seek nothing more than to have their senses of perpetual grievance and entitlement re-affirmed and validated, by any means necessary. And when the only available means involve lies and disinformation....that'll do just fine (for those people).

 

[SCrider]

Extreme Leftists seem to think so.

Yeah, that is what RW media wants you to think. Good little parrot.

 

[Hypothetical]

Okay, I'm gonna need a citation for this one. This claim is repeated constantly, but I've never heard anybody blaming anybody for something that other people did in the past.

wtf do you think asking for reparations is?

 

[SCrider]

wtf do you think asking for reparations is?

CRT is asking for reparations? You are mixing a lot of different things into one here.

 

[NolanVoyd]

wtf do you think asking for reparations is?

That isnt what it is.

 

[Michael Cole]

Extreme Leftists seem to think so.

Extreme idiots think so. No shortage of those on the right either.

 

[Liberal7360]

"We want a 'history' that makes us feel good. Look, we know it's largely or entirely bullshit, but we're planning on reifying it and anyone who has the temerity to challenge our saccharine view of this past had better be prepared to get attacked as an unpatriotic, radical socialist."

No.

This is the republican CRT explained.

They know they have no policies. They know they have no platform. They know they are the minority voters. They know they can't win an honest election.

They also know that racism and fear of the black people wins votes.

That's why they are using CRT.

 

[Indydave]

it's all about racism ......always has been.....everybody knows it......the election of obama gave voice to under educated blacks and the election of trump gave voice to under educated white people......

what i find interesting is no one in the everyday media, both opinion media and fake news and the few respectable ones left has the nads to come out and say it......

it could be that a hundred years from now people will look back on this part of our history and think...'they were some dumb sumbitches'

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

"We want a 'history' that makes us feel good. Look, we know it's largely or entirely bullshit, but we're planning on reifying it and anyone who has the temerity to challenge our saccharine view of this past had better be prepared to get attacked as an unpatriotic, radical socialist."

It's just like every stupid shit Republicans assholes make up to whip their moronic, hateful, racist base into voting for them even while they are ****ing them in the ass and robbing the country blind. ANd the same moronic assholes keep falling for such obvious nonsense and turning a blind eye to greed, corruption, and the real cause of all our problems, Republicans doing nothing but worshipping the uber wealthy and robbing the country blind

CRT is used as a weapon by radicals. Treating White kids like they are guilty for what their ancestors did is wrong.

Lying, trolling, moronic bullshit like everything you and the rest of your ilk post

 

[mrjurrs]

Ive posted it before...I wont bother again...but the proponents of CRT arent teaching CRT to teach history. From their own mouths, they are attempting to indoctrinate...inflame...convert...and that cant be done without the promotion of hatred and responsibility of ownership. proponents want minority students angry and white students humbled and bowed.

That's not history. That's advocacy.

They do the same thing with homosexuality...they dont want a promotion of tolerance or acceptance...they want children to be conditioned to be 'allies'.

Its Marxism in action. And the reality is...its horribly destructive for no reason other than to seek political gain.

Using Barkley to describe an academic issue would be like using Barkley to improve your golf game.

 

[VanceMack]

Using Barkley to describe an academic issue would be like using Barkley to improve your golf game.

Your critique of Barkley's golf swing doesnt change the fact that what he said is right. MOST people dont give a **** about race...and the only people clinging to the race baiting bullshit are politicians targeting morons stupid enough to fall for it, and the morons stupid enough to fall for it.

Fittingly enough....those same morons also are the ones that buy into the gender lunacy as well.

 

[ataraxia]

Many people who oppose CRT do so because it goes way past simply teaching history.

It accuses one ethnicity (the current one that is fast shrinking) of being wholly responsible for the shortcomings of another ethnicity.

That is obviously wrong.

Especially in 2022.

Hope the Republicans win the House and Senate in a few months.

Maybe they can do something to stop this pernicious and unAmerican theory from alienating our young people.

Not at all. German students today are taught all about the horrors of Nazi Germany. It doesn't make them feel any more guilty. In fact, Germany is one of the leading voices of human rights in the world today, exactly because it is aware of the horrors of the past. Most modern Germans, including their children, are extremely proud of their country, who they are, and what they represent today.

Would you rather they NOT teach their kids about that history? Do you think the chances of those things happening in Germany again are more or less if they keep their kids ignorant of that history?

 

[TheParser]

Would you rather they NOT teach their kids about that history? Do you think the chances of those things happening in Germany again are more or less if they keep their kids ignorant of that history?

That's the point.

No one is keeping anyone ignorant of slavery & segregation.

It's taught in public schools.

There is no need for something called CRT.

 

[ataraxia]

That's the point.

No one is keeping anyone ignorant of slavery & segregation.

It's taught in public schools.

There is no need for something called CRT.

Nah- CRT is basically the same thing- just showing the ongoing effects of all those practices and laws of the past on law and culture today. The GOP is using the CRT boogeyman to get rid of all that stuff.

Parents want kids to learn about ongoing effects of slavery – but not critical race theory. They're the same thing.

Most parents are in favor of children learning about systemic racism, but just half support the teaching of critical race theory.

www.usatoday.com

 

[NatMorton]

Just how thick does one need to be to continue to believe Critical Race Theory is merely the teaching of the history of racism?