Open message to communists

[trfjr]

Other than minimum wage laws, there aren't a lot of controls on employee compensation.

I also haven't heard anyone suggest centralized government control over wages by anyone in the US. The closest we've ever come to that was the outrage over "bonuses" paid to bankers (in fact, most of their compensation is from the year-end payment) after the financial crisis, and even that was barely evident last year.



Good news! There are almost no actual socialists in the US government.

No one is talking about "bleeding" corporations. The goal is to ensure that corporations, their CEO's, and stockholders all pay their fair share. The effective corporate tax rate is around 12%; CEO pay has gone through the roof, as rank-and-file pay has stagnated; capital gains are taxed much lower than most income.

Those horrible "feel good" programs include public education (which benefits the entire society) and Social Security (which people pay into for decades before collecting). Welfare was heavily curtailed in the 90s. Food stamps barely pay out enough to keep someone fed on beans and rice. Medicare might fit your description -- and it happens to be one of the most popular government programs, with at least 80% of the public supporting it.


Or, to put all this another way: You're basically saying that anyone who isn't a hard-core right-wing laissez-faire capitalist is a "Communist" and/or "Socialist." This is like saying that anyone who isn't a Roman Catholic and rejects Vatican II is "not a Christian."

what were you saying again? that government hand out are not enough? hell if a single mother receives all the benefits she is entitle to receive she is middle class

so stop with the BS that the left through propaganda brain washed you into believing

 

[Visbek]

what were you saying again? that government hand out are not enough? hell if a single mother receives all the benefits she is entitle to receive she is middle class

Around $15,000 of that benefit is child care; that single mother is only eligible if she is actually working at least 20 hours a week, or in school. What does $15,000 cover? Around $150/week per child. That doesn't sound like a lot to me.

If you've ever actually been in a community where the median income is around $30,000 a year, you might realize those individuals aren't exactly leading a "middle class" life.

More to the point: While we don't want to trap people in poverty, I have a hard time seeing anything wrong with providing child care to working mothers, basic health care to children living in poverty, a well-designed EITC, and food assistance for a family below the poverty line.

Nor does advocating for these things make anyone a "Communist."

 

[trfjr]

Around $15,000 of that benefit is child care; that single mother is only eligible if she is actually working at least 20 hours a week, or in school. What does $15,000 cover? Around $150/week per child. That doesn't sound like a lot to me.

If you've ever actually been in a community where the median income is around $30,000 a year, you might realize those individuals aren't exactly leading a "middle class" life.

More to the point: While we don't want to trap people in poverty, I have a hard time seeing anything wrong with providing child care to working mothers, basic health care to children living in poverty, a well-designed EITC, and food assistance for a family below the poverty line.

Nor does advocating for these things make anyone a "Communist."

did you even read the chart it is better for a single mother to earn 29,000 a year with government benefits then it is for her to earn 69,000 a year and lose those benefits

so tell me what incentive are we giving single mothers to better them selves when they are better off not doing so