Only in the United States

[Logical1]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.
How does anyone defend these facts?

No state allows an abortion at the natural birth of the child, nor are you allowed to kill your born child. Here's a handy chart showing the time limitations by state:

Personally I like the European model. Most countries limit elective abortions to the first trimester (12 weeks) I feel like that's a more than reasonable time period to decide.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

About that late term abortion law:

What did the bill propose?
Under current Virginia law, third-trimester abortions are only permitted if the risk to the mother's life is "substantial and irremediable" - language that Democrats wanted removed.

The Democratic bill sought to allow for late-term abortions if the mother's physical or mental safety were at risk .

The procedure would also have required sign-off by only one doctor, rather than the three required under existing law.

source

Just so this issue can be discussed based on facts rather than emotion.

And remember: This is a proposal, not a law, and is only in one state, not all 50.

Now, who has gone to jail for "spanking," (not beating) their children?

 

[soylentgreen]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

Hyperbole is also a mental disorder. Care to show where a person will go to jail for spanking a child? Or is telling lies now considered a virtue instead of a sin that will send you to hell.

 

[Bullseye]

No state allows an abortion at the natural birth of the child, nor are you allowed to kill your born child. Here's a handy chart showing the time limitations by state:

Personally I like the European model. Most countries limit elective abortions to the first trimester (12 weeks) I feel like that's a more than reasonable time period to decide.

Does this chart include the recent changes in Virginia and New York. Seems like VA's Governor talked about the baby being born and then Mom and Doc discuss whether to let it die.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Does this chart include the recent changes in Virginia and New York. Seems like VA's Governor talked about the baby being born and then Mom and Doc discuss whether to let it die.

The Virginia law hasn't been passed and that is absolutely not what the law does or what the VA Governor said. It only applies to terminal cases or cases where the mother's life is in danger by continuing the pregnancy. There is no "let's take look at him then decide if he gets chunked in the trash" law. Literally nowhere in the US is that legal. Is Limbaugh feeding you people this crap?

 

[MrWonka]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go jail if you spank them.

How does anyone defend these facts?

Simple. Neither of the things you just said is even close to facts. At birth, a fetus becomes a full-fledged child which can exist outside its mother's womb. Nobody advocates or allows it to be killed. Prior to birth, however, the fetus is trespassing inside the mother's body and she is allowed to decide what she wants to do about it just like you get to decide what happens to people trespassing in on your lawn.

Spanking is not illegal and will get you to know jail time unless you do it badly enough that you leave marks.

Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

You advocate the beating of a defenseless child who isn't a threat to you meanwhile think you can tell a woman what she's allowed to do with her own body. You justify it with blatant falsehoods and call yourself pro-life and freedom-loving. Sounds like you're the one who needs the professional help.

 

[americanwoman]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

You speak of the United States as if you don't actually live here.

Imagine that. :lol:

 

[MrWonka]

Personally, I like the European model. Most countries limit elective abortions to the first trimester (12 weeks) I feel like that's a more than n reasonable time period to decide.

Many women don't even realize their pregnant until half that time limit has expired, and it really isn't until the end of the 2nd/beginning of the third that the really difficult parts of the pregnancy begin.

 

[noonereal]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

why do you start so many spam equivalent threads?

 

[Ikari]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

Seems like "very conservatism" is a mental disorder as it prevents one from actually using facts in an argument, replaced instead by hysterics and hyperbole.

lol

 

[Grand Mal]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

Kill your child at birth?
Hell you talking about?

 

[Grand Mal]

You speak of the United States as if you don't actually live here.

Imagine that. :lol:

He lives in Conservastan.

 

[bongsaway]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

The mental disorder part comes in when the right makes claims such as yours.

 

[Logical1]

Kill your child at birth?
Hell you talking about?

Learn about that latest abortion laws in NY and VA.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

Throughout history infanticide of unwanted babies has been common. Especially those that were deformed, or marked with disfigurements thought to be harbingers of evil. The Romans left unwanted infants on the side of roads outside their cities, to die and be consumed by animals. This was common among many cultures.

We don't practice infanticide hear. Unborn fetuses are not babies or children, no matter what you believe.

200,000 children go missing every year in this country. You express no concern. Where is your outrage for the living? You are being a hypocrite. You need to reexamine your priorities and spend your energy where it might do some good. Don't worry about liberals, worry about yourself.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Learn about that latest abortion laws in NY and VA.

Neither of those laws say you can kill a born child. You're lying because you're emotional and facts aren't on your side.

 

[JackA]

No state allows an abortion at the natural birth of the child, nor are you allowed to kill your born child. Here's a handy chart showing the time limitations by state:

Personally I like the European model. Most countries limit elective abortions to the first trimester (12 weeks) I feel like that's a more than reasonable time period to decide.

Nor go to jail for spanking them.

A better question than the OP's is why do Right wingers at this forum consistently feel a need to exaggerate in order to mount an argument?

 

[americanwoman]

He lives in Conservastan.

That explains a lot. :mrgreen:

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

Can this forum get some good trolls for crying out loud? The trolls we have are just dumb

What kind of country separates kids from their parents and lock them in cages? What kind of country does nothing while tens of thousands of people die yearly due to guns, and we have kids being slaughtered? What kind of country, who goes on and on about freedom and being the land of the free have the highest rate of imprisonment in the industrialized world, disproportionately affecting minorities. What kind of country is one of hte richest in the world yet has some of the highest poverty rates? What kind of country spends more on military than the next 10 countries with the largest military combined, yet can't feed and provide healthcare for their own people

Right wingers wanting to talk about morals LOL They hvae no morals

 

[Grand Mal]

Learn about that latest abortion laws in NY and VA.

Tell me.

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Nor go to jail for spanking them.

A better question than the OP's is why do Right wingers at this forum consistently feel a need to exaggerate in order to mount an argument?

It's easy, they have no facts, logic or reasoning. They think reality just requires faith and belief like their religion

 

[tres borrachos]

You speak of the United States as if you don't actually live here.

Imagine that. :lol:

I Really did uncover what the issue is in this poster's case.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Does this chart include the recent changes in Virginia and New York. Seems like VA's Governor talked about the baby being born and then Mom and Doc discuss whether to let it die.

Learn about that latest abortion laws in NY and VA.

If any of you jokers actually read the bill instead of repeating Hannity talking points you'd know that you are objectively wrong.

LINK The RHA permits abortions when — according to a medical professional’s “reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient’s case” — “the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.”

In other words, women may choose to have an abortion prior to 24 weeks; pregnancies typically range from 38 to 42 weeks. After 24 weeks, such decisions must be made with a determination that there is an “absence of fetal viability” or that the procedure is “necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.” That determination must be made by a “health care practitioner licensed, certified, or authorized” under state law, “acting within his or her lawful scope of practice.”

So 3 conditions:
1) Pregnancy is less than 24 of 40 weeks in.
2) Child is terminal.
3) Serious health risk to the mother.

Nowhere does it say born children can be aborted. Stop spreading lies.

 

[Praxas]

Only in the US can you kill your child at birth, but go go jail if you spank them. Liberalism has to be a mental disorder.

How does anyone defend these facts?

So please show who has been allowed to kill their child at birth and who has gone to jail for just spanking and not child abuse such as leaving marks? And you have yet to show those "facts".