ProudAmerican said:I dont understand.
My premise is that traditionally, marriage has always been between a man and a woman.
now whether or not you think that is right, or ok is irrelevant. it cant be disputed that it is the way it has always been.
in your opinion love and committment are all that is needed. but the FACT IS, its traditionally been a man and a woman.
so why would my premise be false?
Kelzie said:I'm saying that your argument is logical. However, your premise is not one I accept for marriage. That is not what it is to me.
ProudAmerican said:I dont see how what it is to "you" is relevant.
It is what it has always been.
If it had always been between the same sexes, and I said "well to me its not about that, its about a man and a woman" whether or not I accepted the fact marraige had always been about same sex unions would be irrelevant.
it would still be a fact.
anyway....I will let this go. I dont think we are going to come to an agreement. I was simply stating I personally had never used the word "sanctity"
For the record: The bible does not say one word about sexual orientations, only actions.Kelzie said:Okay, look at it this way. Say your premise was that God said homosexuality was wrong. I don't believe that premise; it doesn't mean anything to me. Likewise, I don't define the tradition of marriage by gender, so you doing it isn't something I agree with.
Jerry said:For the record: The bible does not say one word about sexual orientations, only actions.
I can tell that you are not open to that discussion because you answerd your own question rather than waiting for a responce, so I won't bother.Gilluin said:So why is the bible any more relevant then grimms fairy tales? It is just a book like any other. With no more proof that is is any more ture then grimms fairy tales.
Jerry said:I can tell that you are not open to that discussion because you answerd your own question rather than waiting for a responce, so I won't bother.
Gilluin said:Because you are unable too?
Yup.zymurgy said:Because your mind was obviously closed on the subject.Gilluin said:Because you are unable too?
Jerry said:Yup.
It would be a waste of my time.
We all have our fair shear of jimmyjacks and cheswarsnows :smile:zymurgy said:You know how you run into some christians that just give the rest of you a bad name? We athiests have 'em as well.
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