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Until you have proper campaign fiancé reform the next crop of politicians won't be any better
Yes I am, because it assume people make informed decisions. Which is a fantasy of course. There is no cure for this govt except to dissolve it.
Until you have proper campaign fiancé reform the next crop of politicians won't be any better
If there is no legitimate way to battle dependency corruption then we have lost our country to commercial interestsAll campaign finance reform ends up doing is limiting good people from contributing. Youre cutting off your nose to spite your face. There is no cure for voter apathy and ignorance. Which means the solution is to dissolve the union and let all the apathetic people move to California. Then the rest of us who care can get back to living.
If there is no legitimate way to battle dependency corruption then we have lost our country to commercial interests
No, to voter ignorance. They consistently vote in corrupt politicians. Dont want politicians who will do what their corporate donors want? Dont vote them in. Stop making excuses for the voters.
Current campaign finance practices present a high enough temptation towards corruption that it doesn't matter who the voters vote for.
Not making excuses but pointing out reality
Gotta have money to win elections and that money comes with strings attached.
You have to have money to get to ignorant voters. Which is why in all the billion dolllars spent in the last election, they didnt get my vote.
We have had ignorant populations since the beginning of civilization good luck winning that battle. You may as well be mad at the sky for being blue for all the power you have to change it.
Campaign finance can be fixed, people, without eugenics or some other way to change human nature you won't fix (nite I don't support eugenics but I am realistic enough to recognize solving the problem of low intelligence will take something of that scale)
Campaign finance cant be fixed, because we have a right to speech. I can fix ignorant voters by eliminating their control over me (federalism), and separation. Then they can go ruin their own lives, not mine.
All the scotus did was trade the illusion of free political speech for even less power for the average voter. They screwed the country for an ideal that in our current scenario garners no voter advantage. Sure we can say what we want but if doesn't effect out political environment then there's no point. Freedoms only mean something if we can use them to change our environment.
As far as federalism, good luck with that. Even if it's what the majority of voters wanted, studies have shown that folks like you and me have almost no influence in policy, so realistically, unless the financiers find it to their business advantage, it won't happen. This is why free speech in it's current form isn't helping people much.
I would rather have an imperfect but usable right than crap like free speech zones or corporate bought elections
I will continue to try to customize this country to my preference. This is my right as a citizen.And you can have it, in your own country.
I will continue to try to customize this country to my preference. This is my right as a citizen.
Ill be happy to vote against any amendments you put forth. Or did you mean you were just going to executive order away my freedom?
Neither. There are ways to build a better community outside politics and still have enforcement power through mechanisms such as social ostracism or social acceptance (which special snowflakes may claim this has no power over me! But the effect has been consistently measured by social science regardless). Right now government is bought and paid for but society is starting to recognize that and culture is changing as a result. It's why we have lawsuits to decide policy as it's something average people have access to. Or why the CEO of Firefox had to quit because what he did was not socially acceptable with enough people.
Humans instinctively want to change their environment for the better (which changes from person to person) so society will find a path around politics if it has to. You can thank you free speech loving scotus for helping create conditions where these things are accelerating in frequency
Which is the basis of my original point, more and more people are checking out in favor of things they still have access to
I think people here tend to recognize it with cries of PC culture. But its really just culture changing as a result of pressures, political or otherwise
Youre arguing my point, that the problem is with people, not with lack of laws.
Not quite. The point is that until finance reform happens, politics will remain broken as citizens have no voice. This is true whether people are sinners or saints as they are largely irrelevant
Until people inform themselves, politics will remaing broken, because people CHOOSE not to have a voice. So we're back to you making excuses.
You are just going to insisting what you in spite of evidence aren't you?
Im stating an opinion. Your opinion is that people using their business money to support candidates is the greatest evil in the country. Mine is that lack of participation from voters is.
Im stating an opinion. Your opinion is that people using their business money to support candidates is the greatest evil in the country. Mine is that lack of participation from voters is.
Like the Underwear Gnomes, you've left out step 2 -- the money the rich put into the system is used to depress voter turnout, either directly by supporting GOP efforts to prevent poor people and minorities from voting, or indirectly by poisoning the process with negative ads and promoting cynicism (if not outright lies).
Let's check your math. A 10% cut in spending would be ~$3.5 trillion x 10%, or $350 billion. If that represents 1% of discretionary spending (not including Defense) discretionary spending's total would be $350 billion divided by 1%, or $350 billion/.01 = $35 trillion. Obviously, your math is off.
https://mninews.marketnews.com/inde...ins-positioning-fy2015-stop-gap-spending-bill
As usual, the federal govt has not done its job. FY2015 begins Oct 1, and no spending has been approved. The President is golfing instead of working with congress to get it done. Congress is on break, and the Senate specifically wont review ANYTHING. Which means comes Oct 1, they will likely pass a last minute bill funding congress till the next congress takes office. And if its still split we have 2 more years of nothing. Which means if YOU vote the same people in again in November, you get what you deserve. Vote them ALL out.
Until you have proper campaign fiancé reform the next crop of politicians won't be any better
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