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Actually, that's a very good point. The article does not say distinct individuals.Just means we have some serious career criminals who get arrested so often, they skew the statistics.
Seriously--I know families and associated acquaintances that I am determined take warrants out on each other just because they have nothing better to do. "She cursed at me" "Well, he threatened me."
Yeah I didn't see that part either. For me it is life experience--in a few years of doing court-appointed criminal defense I often encountered people who were "very familiar to the Court" as the Judge termed it, and I saw them in court frequently whether they were my client or not.Actually, that's a very good point. The article does not say distinct individuals.
ETA: DOH! There is a "clarification" at the end noting this. :3oops:
There's probably no realistic way to find out, but I'd be curious how the numbers would change if it were for how many people as distinct individuals have ever been arrested (whether just once or multiple times)?Yeah I didn't see that part either. For me it is life experience--in a few years of doing court-appointed criminal defense I often encountered people who were "very familiar to the Court" as the Judge termed it, and I saw them in court frequently whether they were my client or not.
Here is the link to the report the article is based on. I did not go through the table (FBI — Persons Arrested)There's probably no realistic way to find out, but I'd be curious how the numbers would change if it were for how many people as distinct individuals have ever been arrested (whether just once or multiple times)?
Aggressive policing. We beat out China. No one throws a higher percentage of their population behind bars than America. Land of the Free.....HA!
"According to the FBI, in 2011 there were 3991.1 arrests for every 100,000 people living in America. That means over the course of a single year, one in 25 Americans was arrested."
http://www.nelp.org/page/-/65_Million_Need_Not_Apply.pdf?nocdn=1NELP based the estimate of U.S. adults with criminal records on the following methodology. According to a 2008 survey of states, there were 92.3 million people with criminal records on file with states, including those individuals fingerprinted for serious misdemeanors and felony arrests. U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, Survey of State Criminal History Information Systems, 2008 (Oct. 2009), at Table 1. In some states, misdemeanor arrests for less serious crimes do not require fingerprinting, thus this figure is likely an undercount of people with criminal records. To account for individuals who may have records in multiple states and other factors, and to arrive at a conservative national estimate, the 92.3 million figure was reduced by 30 percent (64.6 million). Thus, as a percentage of the U.S. population over the age of 18 (232,458,335 in 2009 according to the U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division, available at http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2009-sa.html), an estimated 27.8 percent of the U.S. adult population has a criminal record on file with states. This estimate is consistent with a Department of Justice finding that about “30 percent of the Nation’s adult population” has a state rap sheet. U.S. Dept. of Justice Office of the Attorney General, The Attorney General’s Report on Criminal History Background Checks (June 2006), at 51. The rise in people with criminal records may significantly be attributed to the increased arrests associated with the “War on Drugs.” See Ryan S. King, Disparity By Geography: The War on Drugs in America’s Cities, The Sentencing Project (May 2008).
Being arrested, and being convicted are two vastly different things.Well based on research conducted in 2009 an estimated 65 million adult Americans have a criminal record. That's 1 out of every 4 adults in the country, and that was 4 years ago. I'm not surprised the statistics show a 1/25 arrest ratio. In fact I am surprised it's that low. :shock:
http://www.nelp.org/page/-/65_Million_Need_Not_Apply.pdf?nocdn=1
So my fellow Americans, take a look around yourself tomorrow and at least one out of each four people you see will have a record.
Cheers! :coffeepap
How many of us whould be arrested if this were Egypt?It's not hard to have the highest prison population per capita on the face of the earth when you make nearly everything illegal.